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Re: Vatikan - Palestinians
« Reply #50 on: February 27, 2011, 08:19:27 AM »
Boilerplate claptrap is best responded to with demagogy! I am an American my friend so it must be cheap and stupid American humor your complaining about :::D You know... The country that's almost as bad as the "Vatikan"  You have a nice and productive day... I will be out sinning and cavorting as required by the "Satanic Pope" We get a pass on Sunday to really lay it on  :::D
Do you speak English?
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« Reply #52 on: February 27, 2011, 03:25:28 PM »
ladno americki! hahaa
Careful now.... Talking to yourself is the first sign of going nuts  :crazy:
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« Reply #53 on: February 27, 2011, 06:02:56 PM »
"I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits", said Hitler... "Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic Church. I transferred much of this organization into my own party... I am going to let you in on a secret... I am founding an Order... In my "Burgs" of the Order, we will raise up a youth which will make the world tremble... Hitler then stopped, saying that he couldn't say any more.." Hermann Rauschning, former national-socialist chief of the government of Dantzig: "Hitler m'a dit", (Ed. Co-operation, Paris 1939, pp.266, 267, 273 ss).





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« Reply #58 on: February 27, 2011, 06:44:12 PM »
I would say a prayer for you crnitrn.  I would pray for G-d to give you strength.  It must take an extreme amount of your energy to continue on in this thread.  You post nothing new here.
Oh...I forgot.  I have no relationship with, or understanding of, G-d.  You Serbian Orthodox hold the monopoly on G-d and virtue.   :yuck:
Demagogy, classical demagogy! When there is no reply than there is demagogy! I want answer not  cheap and stupid English humor used as demagogy!
Not cheap and stupid English humor...just good old American sarcasm.  English humor is what my Aunt in London has.
Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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« Reply #59 on: February 27, 2011, 07:25:15 PM »
Oops I did it again!  :'( :'( :'( :'(

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« Reply #60 on: February 28, 2011, 06:35:11 AM »
I would say a prayer for you crnitrn.  I would pray for G-d to give you strength.  It must take an extreme amount of your energy to continue on in this thread.  You post nothing new here.
Oh...I forgot.  I have no relationship with, or understanding of, G-d.  You Serbian Orthodox hold the monopoly on G-d and virtue.   :yuck:Not cheap and stupid English humor...just good old American sarcasm.  English humor is what my Aunt in London has.
I agree with you there is nothing new here,  any remotely intelligent man  knows  who is the Pope and what is  the Vatican! Every person has a direct relationship with God,while his conscience is  working !
Old American sarcasm is just worse version of English humor, but both nations believe that their humor interesting,unfortunately! "Old American sarcasm" - haha! My oak tree in the courtyard it  is older than American nation!

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« Reply #61 on: February 28, 2011, 06:51:32 PM »
I have one question for Pope's followers!  Why on the square of St. Peter in the Vatican City  stands obelisk!?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8g22ch-M3qk/TJvZG3OXgPI/AAAAAAAAAQk/gDLBEDhAiMI/s1600/obelisk1.jpg


Listen to Albert Pike speak of the obelisk:

"Hence the significancy of the phallus(* Man's Genitalia), or of its inoffensive substitute, the obelisk, rising as an emblem of the resurrection by the tomb of buried Deity …" [Morals and Dogma, p. 393]


The obelisk was originally created by the Egyptian Mysteries of the Pharaohs, and is spoken of in the Bible. Listen:

"… King Jehu said to the guards and to the officers, 'Go in and slay them; let none escape'. And they smote them with the sword; and the guards before the king threw their bodies out, and went into the inner dwelling of the house of Baal. They brought out the obelisks of the house of Baal and burned them." [2 Kings 10:26, Amplified Bible]

This obelisk is bring from Egypt !!!
http://www.lindahall.org/events_exhib/exhibit/exhibits/civil/vatican.shtml


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« Reply #63 on: February 28, 2011, 06:57:39 PM »
I agree with you there is nothing new here,  any remotely intelligent man  knows  who is the Pope and what is  the Vatican! Every person has a direct relationship with G-d,while his conscience is  working !
Old American sarcasm is just worse version of English humor, but both nations believe that their humor interesting,unfortunately! "Old American sarcasm" - haha! My oak tree in the courtyard it  is older than American nation!
So what.
Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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« Reply #64 on: February 28, 2011, 07:57:41 PM »
I agree with you there is nothing new here,  any remotely intelligent man  knows  who is the Pope and what is  the Vatican! Every person has a direct relationship with G-d,while his conscience is  working !
Old American sarcasm is just worse version of English humor, but both nations believe that their humor interesting,unfortunately! "Old American sarcasm" - haha! My oak tree in the courtyard it  is older than American nation!

Sorry man. I am intelligent, but ignorant on the subject of Christianity.

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« Reply #65 on: February 28, 2011, 08:39:54 PM »
This obelisk is bring from Egypt !!!
http://www.lindahall.org/events_exhib/exhibit/exhibits/civil/vatican.shtml

This thread is starting to remind me of a bad Rocky and Bullwinkle episode staring Boris Badenov  :::D



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« Reply #66 on: February 28, 2011, 08:50:31 PM »
 :::D 8;) :::D Bring moose and squirrel! (or are they phallic dagger symbols too?)
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Re: Vatikan - Palestinians
« Reply #69 on: March 01, 2011, 09:39:05 AM »
This obelisk is bring from Egypt !!!
http://www.lindahall.org/events_exhib/exhibit/exhibits/civil/vatican.shtml

This thread is starting to remind me of a bad Rocky and Bullwinkle episode staring Boris Badenov  :::D




Reason of that is because you are watching stupid american's cartoons to much,  instead of reading a little bit more!

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« Reply #70 on: March 01, 2011, 11:25:49 AM »
No - I am no expert.
I just don't like being attacked without reason.
You can tell me all about the Pope and the Vatican.
What you can't do is call me stupid, lazy or evil.
I don't think you are religious at all.  It's just a mantle you like to shove in the face of people you hate.
Those cartoons are way more entertaining and informative than you.
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« Reply #71 on: March 01, 2011, 12:28:21 PM »
No - I am no expert.
I just don't like being attacked without reason.
You can tell me all about the Pope and the Vatican.
What you can't do is call me stupid, lazy or evil.
I don't think you are religious at all.  It's just a mantle you like to shove in the face of people you hate.
Those cartoons are way more entertaining and informative than you.
Hmn ! I never said that you are tupid, lazy or evil. I don't hate you!


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Re: Vatikan - Palestinians
« Reply #73 on: March 02, 2011, 04:27:07 AM »
The Vatican vs the ‘Zionist tsunami’
By GIULIO MEOTTI 
02/28/2011 23:15

The slandering of Israel is growing at an alarming rate among the most important Catholic journalists.

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The January edition of La Civiltà Cattolica – the most authoritative magazine of the Jesuits, printed under the supervision of the Vatican – opens with an editorial about Palestinian refugees. Adopting the Arab propagandist word Nakba, it declares they are a consequence of “ethnic cleansing” by Israel. The journal also supports anti-Israeli historian Ilan Pappe, and falsely proclaims that “the Zionists were cleverly able to exploit the Western sense of guilt for the Shoah to lay the foundations of their own state.”

The Latin patriarch of Jerusalem, Fouad Twal, just joined an “interreligious meeting” in Doha, Qatar. Sponsored by the Arab League, the event occurred on Jerusalem, with the participation of “Christian and Muslim leaders.”

But no Jewish presence.

The slandering of Israel is growing among the most important Catholic journalists. Vittorio Messori, who conducted the first book-length interview with Pope John Paul II, recently wrote an editorial for the Italian daily Il Corriere della sera where he stated “All governments of all Muslim nations are under the tsunami of the violent intrusion of Zionism that has come to put its capital in Jerusalem.”

The Vatican’s teachings have a direct influence on 1.166 billion people. To understand its new mood about Israel, one has only to read what happened in the special synod on the Middle East, hosted in Rome. Nothing was said about Islamist persecution of Christians; indeed, every effort was made to show the Catholic Church sympathetic to Muslim grievances, especially against “Zionism” – a word evoked as a symbol of evil.

Archbishop Edmond Farhat – the official representative of Vatican politics – proclaimed that the ultimate cause of all the evils in the Middle East is that “foreign body” which is Israel: “The Middle Eastern situation today is like a living organ that has been subject to a graft it cannot assimilate and which has no specialists capable of healing it”.

US Archbishop Salim Bustros wrote the final message of the synod, claiming that the Jewish Promised Land had been “nullified by Christ,” thus reviving the infamous replacement theology that played a great role in the Holocaust. Bustros also claimed that the Bible can’t be used to justify the “occupation” of the West Bank, attempting to sever any link between the Jewish people and its homeland.

The former patriarch of Jerusalem, Michel Sabbah, named by Pope Benedict XVI to address the concluding session of the synod, presented a document against Israel called “Kairos” bearing the signatures of many Christian leaders in Jerusalem.

It says: “The Israeli occupation is a sin against God,” and takes sides against the very presence of Israel.

It likens the security barrier that has blocked suicide attacks to “apartheid,” it cancels the concept of a Jewish state and proclaims that “resistance to the evil of occupation is a Christian’s right and duty.”

The document was presented in a Vatican-owned building run by Pax Christi, Catholic Action and the Franciscan Custodian of the Holy Land.

THE CURRENT Vatican patriarch of Jerusalem, Fouad Twal, affirmed also that “you can’t have both Zionism and democracy,” supporting the “one-state solution” – a euphemism for the destruction of the Jewish state. Elias Chacour, the Catholic archbishop of Galilee and Nazareth, went on to say that Israel committed “an ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.”

Israel bashing is also part of the strategy of the Vatican Secretariat of State in the Middle East; its default position visà- vis militant Islamism is to try to reach accommodations with regimes and forswear condemnation of Islamist ideology. Israel is easily expendable in this horrendous scheme.


Yet the Church should have a strategic interest in a friendship with Zionists. Israel and the Vatican should be natural allies against the devotees of death. There is only one Middle Eastern country where the number of Christians has grown – Israel (from 34,000 in 1949 to 163,000).

Pope Benedict should now reverse the tragic wave against Israel and the Jews – which its enemies want to annihilate – with the same powerful determination with which he raises his voice in defense of the “nonnegotiable” principles concerning human life.

Israel is also not negotiable.

The writer, a journalist with Il Foglio, is the author of A New Shoah: The Untold Story of Israel’s Victims of Terrorism (Encounter).
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=210246