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Is a righteous gentile saved?
Rev_Matthew:
Ahhhh
But as one of my friends from Israel says, Jesus was as Jewish as one can get.
The Idea of "being saved" came from the time of the apostles
of course they came from the words of Jesus himself, and were expanded upon.
but it was well after the time of Jesus and it was also within the roman empire, where the idea of being saved came from the Greeks.
The Word "Christ" Means THE ANOINTED ONE, which until that time was clearly only used in the east and as far west as Rome, But it's original place came from Tibet, India, and Greece.
The Idea of reincarnation of course was and idea that went as far back as the Sumarians and the Egyptian Coptics, which explains why they took to the Christian idea so quickly.
But back to the subject at hand.
The following of the ten commandments is part of the Christian ideal also....Jesus clearly spoke of the ten commandments, He said to follow the commandments, but to follow one above all.
To Love god with all your heart and soul, and To love your nabhor as you would love your self.
If this isn't a Hebrew thought, i don't know what is.
He's saying make your life a mitzvah (if that's spelled correctly) essentially he's saying, be a mench. (more possible misspelling).
Getting back to the topic, (lol) even Jesus was clear that a good person would go to heaven, it's just that allot of Hard core Christians sight the sentence "None will come to the father but through me" which Jesus said....at the same time Jesus was a Jew, therefore he followed the laws of moses, and they are clear in that a good man who follows the laws of Noah will see heaven.
It's a very touchy subject for some.
But I think if God made me in his image, then he should have compassion for a good man who may have made mistakes but was not perfect.............after all, we're not gods.
Sorry for straying off the subject.
Such is the long winded Deacon (lol)
Love and Light all
P.S. Please pardon the misspelling
SanDiegoShana:
I like your answer.
jdl4ever:
Rev Mathiew, the 7 noahide laws are different than the Ten Commandments in the Bible, so I guess we have a difference of opinion.
ftf:
--- Quote from: shimon on June 13, 2007, 06:02:16 PM ---yes judaism does not believe in a christian hell in which the devil whips you we believe that u just have to learn what you did wrong in your lifetime.it shows the sinner how much of a righteous person he couldve been and were hee went wrong. the sinner will hopefully learn from what he did and accepet his punishment from G-d
--- End quote ---
"christian hell in which the devil whips you", where do you get this idea from, as a christian ultimately I think of hell as being seperation from God, total seperation from God, that's "all" it is. The devil doesn't whip you or anything.
mord:
--- Quote from: ftf on June 14, 2007, 06:28:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: shimon on June 13, 2007, 06:02:16 PM ---yes judaism does not believe in a christian hell in which the devil whips you we believe that u just have to learn what you did wrong in your lifetime.it shows the sinner how much of a righteous person he couldve been and were hee went wrong. the sinner will hopefully learn from what he did and accepet his punishment from G-d
--- End quote ---
"christian hell in which the devil whips you", where do you get this idea from, as a christian ultimately I think of hell as being seperation from G-d, total seperation from G-d, that's "all" it is. The devil doesn't whip you or anything.
--- End quote ---
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