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Is a righteous gentile saved?
decimos:
The rabbis tell us the Sabbath day is a miniature picture of olam habah (the age to come) when Messiah will be king and there will never again be inequity or want. The Sabbath is also how we know we are worshipping the G-d of Creation, because He created for six days and rested on Shabbat (the seventh day). In Judaism, we are counted as sons when we do what the father does.
but also in support of Gentiles..Isaiah also says that Gentiles must keep all 613 laws of the Mosaic Covenant not just the Sabbath.
ps.this is research i have done,on my journey as it were.
Mstislav:
--- Quote from: decimos on September 01, 2007, 07:49:17 PM ---The rabbis tell us the Sabbath day is a miniature picture of olam habah (the age to come) when Messiah will be king and there will never again be inequity or want. The Sabbath is also how we know we are worshipping the G-d of Creation, because He created for six days and rested on Shabbat (the seventh day). In Judaism, we are counted as sons when we do what the father does.
but also in support of Gentiles..Isaiah also says that Gentiles must keep all 613 laws of the Mosaic Covenant not just the Sabbath.
ps.this is research i have done,on my journey as it were.
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So gentiles can follow the 613 mitzvot - give or take a few - and there would be no problems with that?
newman:
--- Quote from: Mstislav on September 01, 2007, 09:08:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: decimos on September 01, 2007, 07:49:17 PM ---The rabbis tell us the Sabbath day is a miniature picture of olam habah (the age to come) when Messiah will be king and there will never again be inequity or want. The Sabbath is also how we know we are worshipping the G-d of Creation, because He created for six days and rested on Shabbat (the seventh day). In Judaism, we are counted as sons when we do what the father does.
but also in support of Gentiles..Isaiah also says that Gentiles must keep all 613 laws of the Mosaic Covenant not just the Sabbath.
ps.this is research i have done,on my journey as it were.
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So gentiles can follow the 613 mitzvot - give or take a few - and there would be no problems with that?
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All except the ones that would entail impersonating Jews such as tzit tzit, peyott, the same strict level of Shabbat observance etc.
Anything beyond the mandatory 7 Laws of Noah are optional.
MarZutra:
If you followed the Mitzvot ha Moshe you'd be Jewish. The Torah basically states to love thy neighbor and outlines the basic moral laws that are to be followed by humanity to produce a peaceful coexistance. The Jew follows the 10: 613 mitzvot and the Gentile those outlined by Noach. Being saved is in Hashem's hands as the Torah states I believe in Isaiah 43:11.
These basic laws for Jew and Gentile (because a Gentile can become a Jew if they so wish) there is no dogmas like one MUST accept any certain Prophet or messiah to be "saved" just try to be a good person via living by the Torah's moral laws. When the Moshiach comes everyone on Earth will know, it will not be an isolated occurance but something witnessed by all menkind...
Lubab can explain this further.... ;)
decimos:
--- Quote from: MarZutra on September 01, 2007, 11:28:16 PM ---If you followed the Mitzvot ha Moshe you'd be Jewish. The Torah basically states to love thy neighbor and outlines the basic moral laws that are to be followed by humanity to produce a peaceful coexistance. The Jew follows the 10: 613 mitzvot and the Gentile those outlined by Noach. Being saved is in Hashem's hands as the Torah states I believe in Isaiah 43:11.
These basic laws for Jew and Gentile (because a Gentile can become a Jew if they so wish) there is no dogmas like one MUST accept any certain Prophet or messiah to be "saved" just try to be a good person via living by the Torah's moral laws. When the Moshiach comes everyone on Earth will know, it will not be an isolated occurance but something witnessed by all menkind...
Lubab can explain this further.... ;)
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yes,in my eyes the Jews were passed the laws,God chose you, your duty is clear.
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