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Should we call ourselves Kahanists?

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Offline Tzvi Ben Roshel1

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Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« on: June 10, 2007, 11:59:41 PM »
I pose the question, maybe we should just call ourselves Torah Jews, and if theirs a temporary political party why shouldnt it simple be the Torah Party of the Jewish part, (something along those lines). By us calling ourselves Kahanists is like some Jews callinging themselves Satmar, or Bobov,etc. Giving the expression (in their cases rightfully so) that its a splinter from something bigger. Shouldnt we the "Kahanists" simply refer to ourselves and the movement as simply returning to Judaism, or Halahic Jews. (you get my point).
« Last Edit: June 11, 2007, 12:25:17 AM by Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim »
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‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2007, 12:00:20 AM »
Moderatiors- How do I, or can you make this into a poll question. Thanks.
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The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2007, 01:08:41 AM »
Why not? What's wrong with being a Kahanist?
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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2007, 01:15:04 AM »
Quote from: jdl4ever on June 11, 2007, 01:08:41 AM
Why not? What's wrong with being a Kahanist?
Well, I think it was because "Kahanist" is always the term that the leftists use to describe us, and it's obviously used in a derogetory way.  But, as Rav Kahane said (I forget where) "The Nazis used tanks - does that mean we shouldn't use tanks anymore?".
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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2007, 01:21:29 AM »
I think Tzvi may have a point, in that names have great power, think about it, there are no "p lestinian" people, they have no history no culture they were never a nation, and yet by the repetition of a word a pretend people was invented.
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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2007, 01:29:51 AM »
How about this?

HaShem is our destination, Torah is our path, Kahanism is our navigation star.
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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2007, 05:43:25 AM »
Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 11, 2007, 01:29:51 AM
How about this?

HaShem is our destination, Torah is our path, Kahanism is our navigation star.
For some reason that sounds like the party line from a muslim political party in pakistan:

"Islam our religion, Socialism our economic policy." Same rhythm to it or soemthing.
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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2007, 10:04:01 AM »
Quote from: ftf on June 11, 2007, 05:43:25 AM
Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 11, 2007, 01:29:51 AM
How about this?

HaShem is our destination, Torah is our path, Kahanism is our navigation star.
For some reason that sounds like the party line from a muslim political party in pakistan:

"Islam our religion, Socialism our economic policy." Same rhythm to it or soemthing.

What a compliment!? Thank you, ftf.
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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2007, 11:07:04 AM »
Tzvi, hello my friend and good day.

I believe the term "Kahanist" gives the listener an immediate clear understanding of your beliefs both religious, and political, and more importantly it gives honor to the greatest spiritual leader of this generation.   I don't think it's redundant to refer to ourselves as such.

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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2007, 11:28:07 AM »
Yes
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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2007, 01:45:24 PM »
Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 11, 2007, 01:10:09 AM
Techincally, all Torah true Jews are Kahanists.

What Rabbi Kahane taught was just unadulterated Judaism.

I second that!

« Last Edit: June 11, 2007, 03:26:39 PM by Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim »
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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2007, 04:05:47 PM »
Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 11, 2007, 01:29:51 AM
How about this?

HaShem is our destination, Torah is our path, Kahanism is our navigation star.

Thats exactly what I mean, by saying Kahanism is gives the IMPRESSION that it is a new "ism" and ideology separate from the origional ism of Judaism.
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The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2007, 04:08:18 PM »
Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 11, 2007, 10:04:01 AM
Quote from: ftf on June 11, 2007, 05:43:25 AM
Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 11, 2007, 01:29:51 AM
How about this?

HaShem is our destination, Torah is our path, Kahanism is our navigation star.
For some reason that sounds like the party line from a muslim political party in pakistan:

"Islam our religion, Socialism our economic policy." Same rhythm to it or soemthing.

What a compliment!? Thank you, ftf.
That wasn't meant as an insult, it was just a random statement, the two things sound rather similar even though they mean completely different things, I'm sorry if I caused any offence.
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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2007, 04:27:57 PM »
Quote from: ftf on June 11, 2007, 04:08:18 PM
Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 11, 2007, 10:04:01 AM
Quote from: ftf on June 11, 2007, 05:43:25 AM
Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 11, 2007, 01:29:51 AM
How about this?

HaShem is our destination, Torah is our path, Kahanism is our navigation star.
For some reason that sounds like the party line from a muslim political party in pakistan:

"Islam our religion, Socialism our economic policy." Same rhythm to it or soemthing.

What a compliment!? Thank you, ftf.
That wasn't meant as an insult, it was just a random statement, the two things sound rather similar even though they mean completely different things, I'm sorry if I caused any offence.

ftf, I wasn't offended at all. It sounded rather funny.
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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2007, 04:31:02 PM »
Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on June 11, 2007, 04:05:47 PM
Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 11, 2007, 01:29:51 AM
How about this?

HaShem is our destination, Torah is our path, Kahanism is our navigation star.

Thats exactly what I mean, by saying Kahanism is gives the IMPRESSION that it is a new "ism" and ideology separate from the origional ism of Judaism.

Kahanism should not become and in no way is a branch of Judaism. Rav did not invent anything new, but rather was a great example how to follow the existing laws.
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Re: Should we call ourselves "Kahanists"?
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2007, 05:53:25 AM »
Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 11, 2007, 04:31:02 PM
Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on June 11, 2007, 04:05:47 PM
Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 11, 2007, 01:29:51 AM
How about this?

HaShem is our destination, Torah is our path, Kahanism is our navigation star.

Thats exactly what I mean, by saying Kahanism is gives the IMPRESSION that it is a new "ism" and ideology separate from the origional ism of Judaism.

Kahanism should not become and in no way is a branch of Judaism. Rav did not invent anything new, but rather was a great example how to follow the existing laws.


Agreed.   
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