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High school kid named Osama
Imerica:
--- Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 13, 2007, 02:08:09 AM ---
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--- Quote from: C.F. on June 12, 2007, 10:27:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: Imerica on June 12, 2007, 07:01:39 PM ---Maliciously slandered? This is all true, about Chaim. He didn't go to jail for being a boy scout. He did something that warranted him going to jail. Cut the crap C.F. Are you saying that he didn't do the things discribed in the article AND link I posted?
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Go to hell, Muslim-loving slut. You know full well that Chaim's prosecution was politically motivated. When Panther members threw tear gas at white cops during their "civil rights" demonstrations they never got anything more than a couple nights in the local pokey. You are full of camel dreck and a patch of mold on our forum.
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CF... Mr. "I havent' called anyone any names", you're a liar. Secondly, I'm no slut. But I do love children and teenagers who cause no problems. And this teenager is one person I'd gladly stand up for because he isn't claiming to be on Osama Bin Laden's side he's just another bullied child with hurdles to jump over just like other people who are labled as outcasts. And yeah, Chaim is SOOO important that the politicians that be put him in jail ...it was a set up. ::) Whatever gets you through the night, I guess. And fyi. The black Panther Party wasn't developed until after MLK's death. In my opinion the BPP was just like JTF... militant in every way. Them throwing tear gas at cops and attacking police officers is akin to the idiots who loot and shoot up their own neighborhoods after basketball games. There are still members of the NBPP calling for the death of all white people. Its counter-productive and probably the dumbest idea I've ever heard of. I'll ellaborate more on that later.
But right now I'll attack this "Go to hell you Muslim-loving slut!" comment. Usually when people feel defeated, they attack in the same way you did. And without even reading a single word I was saying.
I'll humor you a little by reiterating what I was saying. YOU and some of your friends here bashed a young person because his name is Osama. Then you likened him to the terrorist, Osama Bin Laden. THEN you a few others called the boy a camel jockey and other anti muslim names. When I brought Chaim's name into the fold, it was to make the same points YOU made. Would you get angry at someone who made fun of a child who's name would happen to be Chaim because of what they know about his stint in jail? Do you think it would be fair to punish a child ( Chaim) for the choices (Adult) Chaim Ben Pesach made?
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I will, G-d willing, name my son Chaim, in the memory of my grandfather, whose many family members died from the hands of Nazis in Romania.
First I felt this name was a little old-stylish. Now that I have learned of Rabbi Meir Kahane and Chaim ben Pesach, who risked their livese for other Jews, even if many of them did not deserve it, I will feel proud to name my first son Chaim. And if G-d gives me another son, I will name him Meir.
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And you have that right but I'd defend your son if someone bullied him because he shares his name with Chaim of JTF. Apples and oranges. Young and not-so-young. No experience and a lot of experience. Big difference.
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His name will be Chaim, and not Stanley Tookie Williams. Getting the difference?
Besides that… Think for a moment! A black woman accidentally found the name of ONE Jew who was in prison. ONE!!!! And she is playing with that…
Erica, go find another name. Find another Jew who was in jail. I want to see how you gonna do that.
Don’t count Blacks as Jews though, otherwise 95% of all prisoners will be counted as Jews.
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I wasn't playing with anything. I brought Chaim up because you all knew him and I thought you knew why he was in jail. (someone asked me why he was in jail and that's why I posted the link). I didn't say I accidentally found the name of one Jew who was in jail. I'm sure that there are more , but you'd probably call them self-hating Jews. You seem to think this is a bash against your culture...I was just asking how you'd feel if the child you would have named Chaim was bullied and compared to Chaim of JTF, who did time in jail. Spending time in jail to some people is not a good thing, no matter how honorable others feel the person was.
Imerica:
--- Quote from: kahaneloyalist on June 13, 2007, 02:11:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: jsullivan on June 13, 2007, 01:24:39 AM ---You don't know the German people?! You don't know what they did? And now you like some of them?
You write that you "think" you would have hated the Germans in the '30s and '40s during the holocaust. You're not sure because you weren't around then, but you "think" you might have hated the people who annihilated over 6 million Jews.
Wow! If that's where you're coming from, then I understand why you would defend Imerica.
I have to say as a goy, that in my opinion, your view of the world is completely un-Jewish.
In Judaism, when a nation makes war against the Jewish people, you are required to be merciless against them and to hate them. For you not to be sure that you would hate even the Germans of the '30s and '40s who were the stokers of the crematoria in Auschwitz really says it all.
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In this vain, Rav Hutner zt'l told Jewish American soldiers about to go to Mainland Europe(Rav Hutner zt'l was in England) that every German they killed was as a Korban to Hashem and a great Mitzvah. It is in the book Lieutenant Birnbaum, I happened to meet the Lieutenant and he is a great hero.
--- Quote from: C.F. on June 13, 2007, 01:31:25 AM ---Jimmy, I hear you loud and clear, but don't call yourself "goy"! That's a vile slur that is used by racists such as David HaOmo (the Jewish David Duke) of Revava.
You are NOT "goy". You are a righteous Gentile Kahanist who is more Jewish than 98% of Jews alive today.
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::) Goy means nation, its not an insult its just the word used to refer non-Jews.
--- Quote from: Imerica on June 13, 2007, 02:03:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 13, 2007, 01:57:40 AM ---
--- Quote from: Imerica on June 13, 2007, 01:43:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: C.F. on June 12, 2007, 10:27:06 PM ---
--- Quote from: Imerica on June 12, 2007, 07:01:39 PM ---Maliciously slandered? This is all true, about Chaim. He didn't go to jail for being a boy scout. He did something that warranted him going to jail. Cut the crap C.F. Are you saying that he didn't do the things discribed in the article AND link I posted?
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Go to hell, Muslim-loving slut. You know full well that Chaim's prosecution was politically motivated. When Panther members threw tear gas at white cops during their "civil rights" demonstrations they never got anything more than a couple nights in the local pokey. You are full of camel dreck and a patch of mold on our forum.
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CF... Mr. "I havent' called anyone any names", you're a liar. Secondly, I'm no slut. But I do love children and teenagers who cause no problems. And this teenager is one person I'd gladly stand up for because he isn't claiming to be on Osama Bin Laden's side he's just another bullied child with hurdles to jump over just like other people who are labled as outcasts. And yeah, Chaim is SOOO important that the politicians that be put him in jail ...it was a set up. ::) Whatever gets you through the night, I guess. And fyi. The black Panther Party wasn't developed until after MLK's death. In my opinion the BPP was just like JTF... militant in every way. Them throwing tear gas at cops and attacking police officers is akin to the idiots who loot and shoot up their own neighborhoods after basketball games. There are still members of the NBPP calling for the death of all white people. Its counter-productive and probably the dumbest idea I've ever heard of. I'll ellaborate more on that later.
But right now I'll attack this "Go to hell you Muslim-loving slut!" comment. Usually when people feel defeated, they attack in the same way you did. And without even reading a single word I was saying.
I'll humor you a little by reiterating what I was saying. YOU and some of your friends here bashed a young person because his name is Osama. Then you likened him to the terrorist, Osama Bin Laden. THEN you a few others called the boy a camel jockey and other anti muslim names. When I brought Chaim's name into the fold, it was to make the same points YOU made. Would you get angry at someone who made fun of a child who's name would happen to be Chaim because of what they know about his stint in jail? Do you think it would be fair to punish a child ( Chaim) for the choices (Adult) Chaim Ben Pesach made?
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I will, G-d willing, name my son Chaim, in the memory of my grandfather, whose many family members died from the hands of Nazis in Romania.
First I felt this name was a little old-stylish. Now that I have learned of Rabbi Meir Kahane and Chaim ben Pesach, who risked their livese for other Jews, even if many of them did not deserve it, I will feel proud to name my first son Chaim. And if G-d gives me another son, I will name him Meir.
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And you have that right but I'd defend your son if someone bullied him because he shares his name with Chaim of JTF. Apples and oranges. Young and not-so-young. No experience and a lot of experience. Big difference.
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You are being pretty despicable here pretending to be some sort of hero saying you will defend someone for being named after a Gibor ::) Chaim broke laws to save Jewish lives, Osama broke laws with the express purpose of killing people. Any comparison is shameful beyond words>:(
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The teenaged Osama wasn't named AFTER OSAMA BIN LADEN. Just like there are Chaims born all of the time who most likely aren't being named for Chaim Bin Pesach.
Zvulun Ben Moshe:
You know what? I would recommend this kid's parents to change his name to Chaim.
I put money that he will be respected beyond the skies, if other kids knew of Chaim ben Pesach.
But if you feel differently, why won't you call your son Osama? Really... Just for experiment.
Imerica:
--- Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 13, 2007, 02:25:18 AM ---You know what? I would recommend this kid's parents to change his name to Chaim.
I put money that he will be respected beyond the skies, if other kids knew of Chaim ben Pesach.
But if you feel differently, why won't you call your son Osama? Really... Just for experiment.
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I don't have a son... Not sure how Osama would look on the 5 girls I have. So no dice. If I had a son, though I don't think I'd name him Osama though. There aren't any black men, that I know of, who would be able to pull that name off. I would name my son after my husband though. I have one daughter who has the female version of my husband's first name as her middle name.
On second thought... why don't I just name the next child "OATMEAL". I like oatmeal. :) There's nothing threatening about the name and its good for you. :) *Lame attempt at being funny...sorry, its late.* lol
Zvulun Ben Moshe:
--- Quote from: Imerica on June 13, 2007, 02:31:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 13, 2007, 02:25:18 AM ---You know what? I would recommend this kid's parents to change his name to Chaim.
I put money that he will be respected beyond the skies, if other kids knew of Chaim ben Pesach.
But if you feel differently, why won't you call your son Osama? Really... Just for experiment.
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I don't have a son... Not sure how Osama would look on the 5 girls I have. So no dice. If I had a son, though I don't think I'd name him Osama though. There aren't any black men, that I know of, who would be able to pull that name off. I would name my son after my husband though. I have one daughter who has the female version of my husband's first name as her middle name.
On second thought... why don't I just name the next child "OATMEAL". I like oatmeal. :) There's nothing threatening about the name and its good for you. :) *Lame attempt at being funny...sorry, its late.* lol
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Hey, your joke is really funny, but if you don't mind, I'll do the ha-ha part tomorrow; too late now.
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