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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2011, 04:52:11 PM »
She said something about nazi elements in the movement, I wish she had been more specific. When she said nazi did she mean she heard someone say something specifically antisemitic? I wish she was specific in what she saw or heard someone say because to just say "nazi" and leave it at that creates a situation where it is not clear what she means and people can interpret what she says in many different ways. Sometimes people use the word nazi when nothing antisemitic was said but they are using the word nazi to describe something else.

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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2011, 06:30:15 PM »
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Ms Moore said she still supported the EDL leaders and "all the genuine patriots out there who struggle to get their voices heard" but added that she no longer wished to be a part of it.

"I sincerely hope that the leaders will get the strength to squash the Nazis within," she said.

Seems like she leaves but she doesn't burn the bridges behind her. And rightfully so I think.

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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2011, 04:35:46 AM »
Ha! They mention Chaim in connection with her.

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Ms Moore had attempted to co-ordinate her efforts with those of the far-right American Jewish Task Force, whose leader Victor Vancier has been imprisoned for terrorism offences. The move, in February, was heavily criticised by the EDL leadership.


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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2011, 09:20:50 AM »
She has taken a good decision. The EDL is a fraud. They smeared us by calling us terrorists and running away from us like scared little boys.

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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2011, 10:06:02 AM »
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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2011, 01:10:01 AM »
They mention Robert in  one talkback                         http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/change-for-the-worse-at-the-edl.html   







more on all this
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/07/lord-of-the-flies-machiavelli-comes-to-the-blogosphere-.html

Me again? One of them whores made deliberate lies about me calling all blacks apes and subhumans. I made one long post refuting all them garbage they spewed about Roberta and me and not one of  them could refute a single thing I said. When I came to that [censored]'s post I said I hope she get's raped by a muslim for being a nazi whore.

There is a lot more to this story than even most EDL-ers will know but I'm not putting that online. Roberta will now work with international anti-jihadists.

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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2011, 08:09:36 AM »
The EDL is trying to straighten things out but Gates of Vienna baron :::D Ned May is making up fake letters with signatures of people who never signed his imbecilic letter  


Lord of the Flies: Machiavelli Comes to the Blogosphere

I did not want to write this post. But because the motives of the people in question are so nefarious, they must be exposed.

I am a longtime, original supporter of the English Defence League from the very first demo in 2009, before anyone would touch them with a ten-foot pole – even this group of keyboard warriors. No one in America has taken as much heat as I have for supporting the EDL. No one. My defense of the EDL is constantly used to defame me, and I have never faltered in my support of the group. When I speak at universities, I am routinely challenged about the EDL (an example is at minute 4:45 of this video). CAIR includes the EDL in every press release on me; the Southern Poverty Law Center uses it all the time. The Guardian, Newsweek,  and the New York Times mentioned it in their articles about me. Notorious blogger Max Blumenthal at the Huffington Post have even gone so far as to call the EDL “Atlas’s Thugs.” And I never wavered.

From their first demo, when they were denounced and smeared as the scum of the earth, I knew the EDL was noble and true. I still believe that. I still believe that the majority of the membership are good and decent and fine people. The issue for some time has been certain elements in the administration. There will always be infiltrators and plants who get into the membership. But it is important to keep the admins clean.

This is an ongoing problem, and hardly a secret. It was most obviously acknowledged in yesterday’s statement by the leader of the EDL, Tommy Robinson and posted at Facebook here. He said: “We repudiate any individual, group or writing that favors anti-Semitism, neofascism, and any race-based ideology. Any rogue elements within the EDL who go against our mission statement and our beliefs will be removed from the organization; we are determined to remain true to our mission. Anti-Semitism will not ever be tolerated within the EDL.”

And there is anti-Semitism in the EDL now. This is much bigger than Roberta Moore. She is just the tip of the spear. It is not going away with her resignation, as evidenced by the anti-Semitic comments at Atlas (here and here), Facebook and elsewhere, and the attacks on the EDL’s Jewish division as a whole. The Open Letter complains that I adduced no evidence, but in fact the evidence is available for everyone to see. As one commenter wrote at Atlas:

I can not see how Pamela's comment has in any way damaged her reputation because what has been said is true. I shouldn't think Pamela stands alone on this, lets not forget, the areas of EDL conversation have been open to public viewing for a long while, ie the forums and facebook. The content has been there for all to see. No doubt there are many others who have witnessed the downward spiral. It is to be expected that some members will crawl out off woodwork armed with their own twisted version of events. You may fool some but not all. There has been, for quite some time, a concerted effort by a main core of ruthless people, and one person in particular springs to mind, who has been a huge driving force behind a crusade to disband the Jewish Division. Come what may, there were absolutely determined to oust Roberta and then to disband the Jewish Division, not satisfied with that, they also would like to see the LGBT Division ousted as well as other divisions ie Pakistani Christian, Hindu and Sikh support etc. It has been a slow process of infiltration, not forgetting, great effort has been made in trying to brainwash and turn others against Israel, those gullible enough not to do their own research or think for themselves, were being deliberately force-fed the instigators vile and moronic distaste for anything to do with Israel. At one stage the EDL forums were, to an extent, regulated, but as time drew on it lapsed and it became free flow abuse of Israel/Jews, Roberta, supporters of Israel and Jews. It got to the stage where people felt criminal to announce their support for Israel - if you were a supporter of Israel and disagreed with anti-semitic viewpoints, people were accused of being a plant, an infiltrator and a lobbyist, and publicly denigrated! At one point any support shown towards the BNP was subtly halted, but with time this too became accepted. It got to the stage where topics on Israel where moved to a sub-sub-forum part of the board by a core element, by the same instigators! Sometimes threads and posts would disappear. People who wanted to discuss the topic of Israel were attacked and bullied, and between the nasty core of people they would get the person banned. We lost some interesting members. So, it doesn't surprise me to see people swarm over here with only half of the story - it wouldn't look good telling the truth would it? It doesn't take a lot of working out which side of the fence they've been sitting on and who they are protecting. Well, keep up with the lies and half truths, but remember, I won't sit here and let the lies stay uncountered. There is a lot more I could say, but for the time being I am done here.

My support for the EDL has been unwavering, but I cannot and will not sanction anti-Semitic infiltration.

It seems to me that this Open Letter that was written to me has a far different agenda from its stated purpose. Ned May, who is “Baron Bodissey” of Gates of Vienna, is the Machiavellian plotter behind this attack on me – and he himself described himself as such in the EDL forum/channel. He has posted scurrilous attacks on me and Robert Spencer well before this. Perhaps because he has accomplished little, he seeks to attain some sort of notoriety by destroying elements of the counterjihad movement that are more effective than he is.

At the same time, and probably not coincidentally, Gates of Vienna has become a home for many anti-Semitic rants that are deeply disturbing; not only are these sanctioned by the proprietors, but they’ve added to the chorus. As Ayn Rand said, “In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.”

Now the “Baron” is urging other bloggers to join him in this campaign of destruction, and in the absence of significant traction, he has even gone so far as to include peoples’ names who never agreed to be on the list. Holger Danske and Henrik Raeder Clausen of Europe News wrote me to assure me that their names were ill-used: they had never agreed to sign on. I am told that Hans Erling Jensen, whose name also appears on it, is angry about this Open Letter also.

One who did sign on voluntarily, however, was KGS of Tundra Tabloids. I was genuinely surprised when I saw that he had added his name to the list. To me, this is particularly galling. Without going into details, I took a lot of heat covering for KGS and maintaining confidentiality back in 2009 when “Baron Bodissey” began falsely accusing of violating that confidentiality. But I kept silent so as not to expose KGS. And this is how I am repaid.

Then there was a revealing incident, in 2010, when the “Baron” and many of the signers of this Open Letter falsely accused Spencer and me of being responsible for YouTube’s deletion of a video. They had taken video from our inaugural AFDI conference at CPAC in 2010 of Allen West’s speech and subtitled it in various European languages. They had taken the video without the knowledge or consent of the person who filmed it, Pamela Hall – who thereupon complained to them.

They did not answer, so she complained to YouTube, as she had every right to do. YouTube removed the video after it had gotten an enormous number of hits. Ned and the others blamed us for this removal, and accused us of selfishness and lack of commitment to the cause – and continued these false accusations even after we had told them that we had known nothing about any complaints about the video.

Why? Why would they knowingly propagate falsehoods? What’s their real agenda?

I have been loathe to air all this out publicly, unlike this group, which seems to thrive on these conflicts -- although I did address their scandalous lies about the West video at the time. Other EDL members have sent me screenshots of Vlad and Ned in their forums, making the most egregious statements about me. They have been doing this for some time now. So what’s their real motive in this? My work speaks for itself -- and now clearly, so does theirs.

At their sites, they’re even deleting comments that defend my position. My partner Anders Gravers of Stop the Islamisation of Denmark tried to add this comment at Liberties Alliance, but it was blocked: “Henrik Ræder from Europe News says he has not been asked if he wanted to be on the list. Maybe he doesn't want to be on the list because Tommy Robinson admits that there is a problem with antisemitism but says it will be solved and that EDL is 100% behind Jews and Israel. These statements from Robinson should end the allegations that Pamela is not loyal to the cause and EDL. There will always be attempts on infiltration of groups like ours from the red nazis and the brown nazis. The only thing we can do is to clean out when we find them.” And John Jay tried to add a comment at Gates of Vienna, but was also blocked – read about it here.

I want to urge bloggers who may not be aware of the details, and are being strong-armed into signing this statement, that they first get all the facts. There may be other people on that list whose names are unauthorized. Why would they falsely put people’s names there? What are they trying to do?

Everyone on that list should be deeply concerned about the hijacking of the EDL. By ignoring it, these bloggers are sanctioning this vile racism. They completely disrespected Tommy Robinson by disregarding and ignoring his statement, which confirmed the concerns I had expressed in my own statement – the very concerns this group claims are without supporting evidence. Is there more to that? Is this cabal working to undermine his leadership?

In contrast, I spoke to Tommy Robinson at length; he issued his statement to SIOA. Considering his statement, I am not withdrawing my support for the EDL, but I continue to be deeply concerned and will be watching how events unfold. Instead of working to purge the EDL of these vile elements, the signers of this Open Letter are trying to destroy those of us who seek to maintain the proper focus of our mission and the EDL’s mission, which is fighting for freedom. I support the EDL’s original mission, but we cannot sanction evil and cover it up. We should expose it to the sunlight, so as to ensure that the group stays true to its original mission, and so that that mission is not compromised. These Machiavellian bloggers ought to know that.


There is a struggle for the soul of the EDL. Which side do you come down on?

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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2011, 08:23:52 AM »
I just spend a weekend with Roberta Moore in Strasbourg. There was supposed to be a SIOA/SIOE conferenceand I would be meeting Pamela Geller, but due to threats of anti-fascists and muslims the event got cancelled.

I can tell you one thing: Roberta is great. She really is a G-d's gift.

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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2011, 03:53:45 PM »
Me and Roberta:


She gave me the necklace with the Magen David with the Hebrew word Chai in it.


Me and a lady from England

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMn07yNhtNw#t=0m54s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFEF4GxC66c#t=1m55s (the time-link doesn't seem to work; skip to 1,55)

This lady is FANTASTIC. You have no idea what knowledge she has: About louis farakkhan, obama, jeremiah wright, malcolm x, the 'gay-agenda', that all ss were homo's, about islam. I'm not exaggerating, she could sit next to Chaim in one of his QPTV programs.
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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2011, 04:29:06 PM »
So now that Roberta left, is there still an official "EDL Jewish division" ?

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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2011, 04:35:15 PM »
So now that Roberta left, is there still an official "EDL Jewish division" ?

I can't answer that, but the facebook page will stay active.

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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2011, 05:05:25 PM »
These fools don't realize that the strength of their organization lies in the diversity of their members: all of whom have legitimate gripes with the Islamist influence in Great Britain

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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2011, 06:11:34 PM »
Is that lady  Dutch or American i like her she says what she has to
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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2011, 02:05:35 AM »
Is that lady  Dutch or American i like her she says what she has to

She is English.

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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2011, 06:31:42 PM »
Pamela Geller is trying to do what she can to help out here as well.  She has said that a couple rogue nazi elements have been trying to troll EDL .   I'm not an expert on this, but she has said that 99% of the EDL has been angered by the Nazis but that the EDL isn't doing enough to purge them.  Who know how true any of this is, she pasted tons of posts from members supporting her and condemning the Nazis.  If the EDL doesn't do anything here, their silence is a clear signal that they are a bunch of Paleos.

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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2011, 07:54:38 AM »
http://edl-englishdefenceleague.blogspot.com/

Roberta Moore's statement
I resigned from the leadership of the Jewish Division, but the problem is much bigger than me. Our members are intelligent enough to know that our war against Islamization is far more important than the infighting and power struggles that have plagued the EDL. The ensuing controversy has been made to be all about me; that is a diversionary tactic.
This is a well-worn and well-known strategy employed both by our enemies on the Left and the Islamic supremacists. There are real issues that need to be addressed; elements that must be purged. And I was relieved that Tommy Robinson said in his statement to SIOA that he would do just that. The idea that when I go away this problem goes away is ridiculous on its face. The EDL has been struggling with antisemitic elements for some time. Leadership must withdraw its sanction. We could continue to air this dirty laundry, but that would only serve our enemies, which is why I have chosen to resign. I am loathe to give our enemies any more ammunition, even though we are being goaded by the antisemites. I refuse to tarnish the whole organisation with such a brush, for the bulk of it is comprised by many good and decent people who do not share the opinions or beliefs of this small and rogue group.
The whole point in opening the Jewish division and support Israel was that Israel is under siege from jihad, and England faces the same jihad.
I will move on to the questions some members have been asking and I will answer them.

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FAQs
1. Q: Why is there a Jewish Division?
A: To show righteous Zionist Jews that they are welcome in the EDL, and to encourage them to support our common struggle against Islam, since they are also going through the same war as us and understand our plight.
2. Q: Roberta Moore allied us all with the JTF (Jewish Task Force - www.jtf.org) a "terrorist organisation", led by a "terrorist" called Victor Vancier. Why and by whose authority?
A: Tommy and Kevin hooked up with the JDL (Jewish Defence League) in Canada long before I suggested an alliance with the JTF (Jewish Task Force). The JTF is NOT a terrorist organisation, nor is it listed as such. I contacted the JTF by my own authority since I was the one offering the support, and I strongly believe that I did the right thing. The JDL however was the organisation which was listed as having committed acts of Terrorism. Whether we agree with their being listed as a terrorist organisation or not is a different matter altogether.
Since the EDL supports the land of Israel and the right of Jews to own their sovereign country, I did not think that this would be a problem.
3. Q: Roberta condoned the murder of British troops by Jewish terrorists - Talking about the King David hotel issue- so she is not a loyal patriot.
A: My words were taken out of context. I did not condone murder of anyone, I merely stated a historical fact that these Jews were not terrorists; they were freedom fighters who were trying to protect their country. Those Jewish groups were formed out of desperation; they were fighting for their survival. Nowhere am I condoning these murders, but those who interpreted them clearly had an anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist agenda.
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The attacks that I and the Jewish Division have been subjected to were done by this small antisemitic group, whose sole purpose is to gather as many nationalistic supporters as possible to eventually oust Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll from the leadership, while at the same time bringing down our great movement.  They are coordinating this attempt with certain members of other organisations which are linked to the EDL but who are not EDL members per se.
I can only hope that the true leaders of this great movement will act without any further delay, and act as per their statement to SIOA. We in the Jewish Division confirm that in turn we will cooperate fully, help them with this very much needed “exorcism” and offer every help within our scope in order to ensure they fully accomplish this.

Roberta Moore

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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2011, 10:46:53 AM »
More clarification from Roberta Moore:



During all this time and from the moment our division was opened, I have been constantly attacked, bullied and intimidated by some members of the EDL, mostly those who have never even met or spoken to me, I did not waver or falter at any time. I continued doing my work and the Jewish Division succeeded in almost everything it had set out to achieve. The members of our division knew of these attacks however with many of them also being attacked for apparently no reason, and while they were sickened by it I personally begged them to ignore the attacks and carry on, business as usual.
Our war against Islamization is far more important than any personal squabble from envious people, so we persisted on our way, and we worked very hard behind the scenes.

I am aware that many people may think the JDiv has very little support, but they are fools, for we have very important people inside who have been doing an incredible amount of work, and many of them are intellectuals and professionals.
Furthermore we have kept our page active and interesting from the moment it was opened.


Our aim has always been to encourage righteous Zionist Jews to support our struggle against Islam, since they are also going through the same war as us and understand our plight.
Therefore, the work we do is primarily focused on UK issues as British Jewry DOES care for the country they were born and live in peace. Moreover, since we are THE JEWISH DIVISION we MUST also work with Jews, for Jews and that includes ISRAEL. That was the whole point in opening the division, to get Jews and also Israelis to give us all the support they can give, for Israel is already fighting its battles ALONE, without any outside help, but we in England desperately need help and we must accept this help from anyone willing to give it to us. In the same manner we offer to return the favour and WILL continue to help and support ISRAEL in their issues, which are the SAME as ours. The creeping Islamization of both our countries.




The JTF has been a law-abiding organization from the start for 20 years now. We do not consider The JTF leader Mr. Chaim ben Pesach (Victor Vancier) a terrorist in any way, shape or form, since his so-called "terrorist acts" were simply to blow up EMPTY soviet diplomatic cars in isolated areas and EMPTY establishments, in order to make the world aware of the plight of Russian Jews under soviet (Communist) rule, who were enduring daily pogroms and were kept behind an iron curtain, while every news outlet worldwide ignored this genocide.

Furthermore I initially contacted Chaim ben Pesach to offer my support to his organisation in bringing the issue to light, i.e. the Hilltop Youth of Judea and Samaria who are facing daily threats and attacks from neighbouring Arab Muslims who want to steal their land and kill them in the process.

Chaim ben Pesach is no terrorist. Even the FBI said he went out of his way to ensure that NO ONE got hurt or killed and to this day consults him for his wide knowledge of islamic terrorism, because they KNOW how he tried to warn them of the plan to bring down the Twin Towers after the failed attack in 1993.
Chaim Ben Pesach achieved what most of us can only dream of, he achieved notoriety for his actions and thus attention to the cause he was fighting for, and SUCCEEDED in the process by opening the doors for Jews to escape their persecution in Russia. But every success comes with a price and Chaim has paid for his already. He was imprisoned for 5 and a half years for his "crimes" of "terrorism" despite the fact he never killed or maimed anyone. Even murderers and rapists do not get to pay half of the price Chaim did.
Although he did terrorise his targets who were all Nazi communists, Chaim paid an unjust price for fighting the enemy, and this is the SAME PRICE we are also paying in the UK. Tommy and Kevin are the perfect example of it. Both being constantly attacked and harassed by a shameful government.


Since the EDL is a Zionist organisation, i.e. supports the land of Israel and the right of Jews to own their sovereign country, I did not think that this would be a problem, and I am right, it isn't. The problem are those who have serious issues with Jews owning their home (Anti-Zionists) or do not wish them defending their land against Islamic invasion (Dhimmis and Kapos), and thus attempt to attack me for apparently allying them with a so-called "terrorist" organisation. They fail to understand or realise that I have not allied anyone personally with anything. People are free to choose what they do in life and if they cannot accept that the EDL is a Zionist organisation they should pack up and leave. There is no place for anti-Zionism inside this group. And none will be tolerated.

Now, to clarify the matters regarding those 3 absurd statements released in such speedy order on the EDL main page and EDL website at some point a few months ago, they were not issued or written by the leaders of the EDL, but by the EDL "admin" (whoever they may be) and those who have the access to the main EDL website. The statements were not even signed by Tommy or Kevin. Furthermore when I was alerted to them, I immediately complained to the leaders who removed the statements immediately.
 
The hypocrisy in all this is that no one had a problem with Tommy speaking at the JDL in Canada and no one should have had a problem with that, because the JDL nowadays is a respectable, law-abiding organization, just like JTF.
And again: no one spoke out against Rabbi Shifren coming over to hold a speech while he has been Rabbi Kahane's driver.
Classifying both JTF and JDL in the same line as Hamas and Hezbollah who get financial aid from the British government is a sign of utter lunacy.

Also people are asking questions regarding the Ha'aretz (Israeli leftist) newspaper who quoted me saying that I was exploiting the EDL instead of them exploiting us (Jewish Division).

So that you know, the interview with Ha'aretz lasted for a couple of hours and I secretly recorded every word that was said during that interview. This "quote" was "misquoted" to start with but this is to be expected from immoral leftist newspapers such as Ha'aretz, the Guardian and the Jewish Chronicle, amongst many others. The question I was asked was: "But are you not worried that the EDL is exploiting you and using you as a token Jew?"
Upon which I replied: "No. Because they are NOT exploiting us. How could they be? We were the ones who opened the Jewish Division, so they are not exploting us, if anything it would be us exploiting them, isn't it?"

Ha'aretz worded that comment, and others even, amongst the so-called "quotes" totally out of context. I was not saying that WE the Jewish division were exploting the EDL, I was trying to confirm they (EDL) were not exploiting us because it were we (Jews) who opened the division not them. They did not ask us to join them, we joined them voluntarily.
I trust this issue is now clarified once and for all.

Regarding the King David hotel, where some idiots are accusing me of "condoning" the murder of British troops:  Again and deliberately it seems, my words were taken out of context. I did not condone murder or anyone, I merely stated a Historical fact that these Jews were trying to protect their country from British rule, since their betrayal of Jews regarding the Palestinian Mandate. According to the International UN agreement Israel was to be formed in the British mandate for Palestine. Even the Arabs agreed to it. But the Jews were betrayed and received less than half the land they were promised. Those were days of war and whether some like it or not, the British did have a hand in the chaos that ensured afterwards, resulting in the death of some British troops by the hands of guerilla Jews such as Irgun, Leumi, etc...
 
Nowhere am I condoning these murders, but those who interpreted them clearly had an anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist agenda.
 
Is the British government in ANY WAY beyond criticism? Mind you, it is this same British government that denied Geert Wilders entry and is enslaving its own citizens with horrid islamization.

Those Jewish groups were formed out of DESPERATION, who were fighting for their SURVIVAL.
To see any valid criticism on anything British as 'unpatriotic' can only be done by madmen. The British arms trades with the Saudis referred to as Al-Yamamah were downright evil. They only served the people in power, not the average citizen.
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Regarding my resignation


I resigned because from the start there has been a particular group of people who have been showing clear signs of anti-Zionism and attempting to sabotage the good work we were doing.
 
This decision was not taken easily and those who know me, as well as the leadership, know that I did everything in my power to avoid such situation.

At first we could not quite figure out the issue as we had no evidence of anti-Zionism or anti-Semitism per se, but as the months passed, we became strongly aware of certain people's agenda, and those people were in the "admin" of the main EDL page, and had access to the EDL website.


It was obvious to us that these people were not the leaders, for they are honest and noble hearted men. There were also signs that the leaders themselves were not aware of these people's attitude online. So we decided to observe them and gather evidence of some of their comments in order to study them and decide if they consisted of anti-Semitic/anti-Zionist comments or not.

When most of the evidence was gathered we decided they were a blatant breach of the EDL Zionist policies of supporting Israel, and decided that they indeed consisted of anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism sentiments. The fact that these comments were made by those who are close to the leadership was what upset us the most.

These same people were also starting a witch hunt against me by using lies and distorted quotes as their alleged "evidence". They accused me of things I never said or done, and went out spreading these rumours to all those who would listen. And why do they do that? Most of these people who are attacking me have never met or spoken to me before, they know nothing of what I did or do for the EDL, and yet they choose to join the witch hunt wagon.  And there was only one reason I could see from all this, the fact I am Jewish and a foreigner.
This did not stop with me though, several members of the Jewish Division were attacked, and still are. And also Jews who are not part of the Jewish Division or were before. Many have also noticed this in their forums. In fact one of the EDL forums was shut down precisely because the level of anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism was so sickening that many people complained.

But since the admin of the EDL has not yet changed, we see the same thing creeping back in the new forum again and again. Something that should have been resolved by now but wasn't. Even decent English patriots have been attacked by this elusive admin.
 
I surely hope that the EDL leaders will act now as per their statement to SIOA and ensure that this group of rogues are removed without any further delay, so that they can finally resume their fight against the Islamization of England as quickly as possible.
 
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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2011, 11:04:31 AM »
Well written letter.About the Brits Military Headquarters in the king David Hotel .Imagine if Israel or the U.S. set up miltary hdqrs in an Arab Hotel that hosts both Jewish and Arab customers the commander receives a phone call telling him he has 10 min before the hotel is set to blown up his answer according the officer under him i don't take orders from Jews i give them.Just imagine the U.S. or Israel setting up military headquarters in a hotel used by civilians.Roberta seems like a true patriot to the U.K.
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2011, 11:08:18 AM »
Is that lady  Dutch or American i like her she says what she has to

I was mistaken: She is an American living in Germany.

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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2011, 11:17:49 AM »
I was mistaken: She is an American living in Germany.
Oh o.k. did Roberta send a copy to Pamela Gellar?
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2011, 11:22:33 AM »
Oh o.k. did Roberta send a copy to Pamela Gellar?

Pamela knows what's going on and has commented on the Jdiv facebook page today.

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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2011, 11:40:10 AM »
Pamela knows what's going on and has commented on the Jdiv facebook page today.
just checked it
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Re: Roberta Moore left EDL
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2011, 11:47:49 AM »
Robert, is there any way to get Glen Beck to meet Roberta as well?  Somehow, it would be really nice that if you could meet with Pamela Gellar and then connect to Glen Beck.

Glen Beck is an example of someone who has created a mass movement...and if Glen Beck to recognize Roberta for what she has done, then we can connect her to Chaim and JTF.
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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2011, 12:04:22 PM »
Robert, is there any way to get Glen Beck to meet Roberta as well?  Somehow, it would be really nice that if you could meet with Pamela Gellar and then connect to Glen Beck.

Glen Beck is an example of someone who has created a mass movement...and if Glen Beck to recognize Roberta for what she has done, then we can connect her to Chaim and JTF.

I think that would be up to Pamela Geller and Glenn Beck. I know Pamela supports Roberta, but I don't know how she communicates with Glenn Beck and what Glenn Beck's ideas about the EDL or Roberta Moore are. I gues he will also be busy with his new things.