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Nazi Angel of death memoirs to fetch 250k
« on: July 19, 2011, 05:03:21 PM »
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/nazi-angel-deaths-memoirs-fetch-250k-124100775.html
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The diaries of Nazi war criminal Josef Mengele, the so-called "Angel of Death" are to be sold by auction in the US.

The diaries, written after the end of the Second World War when Mengele had fled to Latin America, contain his philosophical reflections, autobiographical stories and poems written between 1960 and 1975.

Thursday's auction will include some 3,500 pages from "hidden journals" written by the doctor who carried out terrible medical experiments on prisoners at Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp.

The items, mostly small, spiral-bound notebooks, are expected to fetch between £185,000 and £247,000 when they go under the hammer at Connecticut-based auctioneers Alexander Autographs .


The company, which specialises in historical manuscripts, said the auction would include an "historically important" lot of 31 manuscripts in various forms, including bound journals.

"All writings are penned in ink in a legible hand, in generally excellent condition," an auction house spokesman said.

"They were seized in 2004 by the police at the home of a German couple with whom he was living in Sao Paulo."

He added they were then given to Mengele's son, Rolf, who only saw his father twice in his life.

About 40% of the writings are autobiographical, tracing Mengele's flight across Europe in the aftermath of the war.

He talks of himself in the third person, referring to himself as "Andreas".

In one commentary, Mengele complains that sexual promiscuity has led "to a dreadful mixing of the races with the northern Europeans... when you start mixing the races, there is a decline in civilisation".


Mengele was a member of the Nazis' elite SS, which ran death camps across occupied Europe.

Based at Auschwitz from 1943, he helped supervise the selection of prisoners on arrival to death camps, sending those considered unfit for slave labour to be gassed with deadly Zyklon B.

He gained his notorious reputation due to his pseudo-medical experiments in the camp.

He fled Europe at the end of the war after Germany's defeat, reaching Argentina at the start of the 1950s.

He then moved to Paraguay in 1961 and then went on to Brazil, where he lived in Sao Paulo and remained uncaptured despite Interpol's best efforts, dying in 1979 at the age of 67.

His death was only confirmed in 1985, after his body was exhumed.

The diaries appeared some time after that.

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Re: Nazi Angel of death memoirs to fetch 250k
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2011, 05:04:30 PM »
My comment on above.

Who the hell would buy such a thing for such a price. The wehrmacht?

It makes me sick, such large sums of money could go to better causes.
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Re: Nazi Angel of death memoirs to fetch 250k
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2011, 05:33:42 PM »
My comment on above.

Who the hell would buy such a thing for such a price. The wehrmacht?

It makes me sick, such large sums of money could go to better causes.

Who the hell would buy such a thing ? Maybe your great BNP leader Nick Griffin.

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Re: Nazi Angel of death memoirs to fetch 250k
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2011, 07:29:48 PM »
Sadly there is a large market for stuff like this... Mengele and his crazy sick dealings are the stuff movies are made from... I am not quite sure but there have been a few movies based around him where large amounts of dramatic license was taken by the script writers.... The worse part of the thing is they show the animal as being evil however they never really show the full extent of just how evil he actually was... People need to understand the extent of this creatures evil interests and the experiments he did on humans that they would not even condone for lab animals... Some nut will buy this garbage and stuff it into a safe somewhere where it will molder for another 50 or 60 years... It's all out there somewhere to read in one form or another if anyone cares to find it... I would not want something like that around me if they paid me the 200g's to store it.
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Re: Nazi Angel of death memoirs to fetch 250k
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2011, 07:45:09 AM »
Who the hell would buy such a thing ? Maybe your great BNP leader Nick Griffin.

He's not my leader  :P
Anyway the great?? nick griffin according to you is a holocaust denier and will not be going near anything which contradicts that belief system.
Way to score an own goal there.
  You see yakov mental, when you go out of your way and stoop to making snide remarks you achieve exactly one thing. You make yourself look foolish, which I rather thought you were so thats OK.
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Re: Nazi Angel of death memoirs to fetch 250k
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2011, 08:59:29 AM »
He's not my leader  :P
Anyway the great?? nick griffin according to you is a holocaust denier and will not be going near anything which contradicts that belief system.
Way to score an own goal there.
  You see yakov mental, when you go out of your way and stoop to making snide remarks you achieve exactly one thing. You make yourself look foolish, which I rather thought you were so thats OK.

Not only you take the liberty to insult me, but, more seriously, you are a liar : you came here saying you were a proud member of the BNP. If you've left the BNP, I'm glad to hear this, although I believe that anyone who has supported a Holocaust denier should be considered with great caution and suspicion - personally I will never trust you.
As far as my "foolishness" is concerned, don't worry about that, I have failings like everyone but being dumb is certainly not the main issue with me.
Oh, and don't try to be funny ("yaakov mental") because you're really not good at it : if you knew how to pronounce "Mendel" you would know that it doesn't sound like "Mental".

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Re: Nazi Angel of death memoirs to fetch 250k
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2011, 10:06:50 AM »
Among other things one of the things he did was do surgery on people with zero anesthetic. He really treated people as if they were just biological objects and not human beings. Apparently he even sewed people together to make artificial 'conjoined twins'. As for this being the stuff of movies, I think Mengele and his sick experiments are the inspiration for movies like 'the human centipede', etc. because even if that particular example isn't plausible, it's given a veneer of believability because there have been extremely sick and demented people like Mengele. I hate to even refer to him as a person though... more like a demon that looked human.

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Re: Nazi Angel of death memoirs to fetch 250k
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2011, 08:43:56 PM »
Shut up BS. Yaakov Mendel is a great member who is telling the truth about abbreviation-for-Richard Griffin. That animal IS a Holocaust denier and in fact in the '80s he advocated alliances with Muslims. Your defending him makes me think you are of like mind.

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Re: Nazi Angel of death memoirs to fetch 250k
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2011, 08:12:27 PM »
Not only you take the liberty to insult me, but, more seriously, you are a liar : you came here saying you were a proud member of the BNP.

Yes, I remember that.

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Re: Nazi Angel of death memoirs to fetch 250k
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2011, 09:14:45 PM »
Brittish sword please be honest. What were your motives for joining jtf? I have a feeling that you have many alteriar motives, and you have alot of potential to become an informer.

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Re: Nazi Angel of death memoirs to fetch 250k
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2011, 09:31:37 PM »
Among other things one of the things he did was do surgery on people with zero anesthetic. He really treated people as if they were just biological objects and not human beings. Apparently he even sewed people together to make artificial 'conjoined twins'. As for this being the stuff of movies, I think Mengele and his sick experiments are the inspiration for movies like 'the human centipede', etc. because even if that particular example isn't plausible, it's given a veneer of believability because there have been extremely sick and demented people like Mengele. I hate to even refer to him as a person though... more like a demon that looked human.
As far as movies go the Boys from Brazil a 1978 movie was a fictional account about Mengle. It has him making 94 clones of Hitler by using Hitlers DNA and Brazilian mothers... Mengele was quite sick... In real life I remember watching some old shows years ago where survivors from his clinics spoke about him... Most of them said he was quite evil only one or two of his subjects claimed the only reason they survived the camps was because they fell into Mengele's hands... Still some of the stuff they described done to them was quite sick... The worst of his subjects can never tell their stories... It's really sad that this animal was able to evade justice in this world... I am sure he got it in the next when he finally bit the dust.
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Re: Nazi Angel of death memoirs to fetch 250k
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2011, 11:02:30 PM »
I look at this very different than most of you.
I think it's a good thing that it was auctioned off and sold and lets hope someone makes an "actual" account movie of what he did to show the younger generation who seem to have forgotten and are not taught about it in detail in the schools.
If it's put in a safe that's good too so it will be auctioned off again in another 50 years or so and this way this terrible thing will never be forgotten.