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Israel Chai:

--- Quote from: Tag-MahirTzedek on March 21, 2012, 05:48:23 PM --- You say their is no way....

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Just with electricity, I should clarify, for an obvious reason.

muman613:
There are 39 forbidden categories of labor which are forbidden on Shabbat. The sages derive this Halacha from the Parasha we read a week ago concerning the command to build the Mikdash, the Tabernacle... When describing the building of the Tabernacle Hashem says that all work must cease on Shabbat, all work involved with building the Mishkan, which we know involved 39 labors. Thus we learn that the 39 labors which are forbidden on Shabbat are these 39...

Here is a list of them:
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/102032/jewish/The-39-Melachot.htm

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Field Work

    * Sowing
    * Plowing
    * Reaping
    * Binding Sheaves
    * Threshing
    * Winnowing
    * Selecting
    * Grinding
    * Sifting
    * Kneading
    * Baking

Making Material Curtains

    * Shearing Wool
    * Cleaning
    * Combing
    * Dyeing
    * Spinning
    * Stretching the Threads
    * Making Loops
    * Weaving Threads
    * Separating the Threads
    * Tying a Knot
    * Untying a Knot
    * Sewing
    * Tearing

Making Leather Curtains

    * Trapping
    * Slaughtering
    * Skinning
    * Salting
    * Tanning
    * Scraping
    * Cutting

Making the Beams of the Mishkan

    * Writing
    * Erasing

The Putting up and Taking down of the Mishkan

    * Building
    * Breaking Down

The Mishkan's Final Touches

    * Extinguishing a Fire
    * Kindling a Fire
    * Striking the Final Hammer Blow
    * Carrying

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Work, in the context of Shabbat, does not mean that it is hard to do something, that it involves exerting energy, or whatever. Work on Shabbat is any activity which was involved with building the Mishkan. Thus it is perfectly OK to move a couch or table within your home but it is completely forbidden to pick up a pen and take it outside {violates two halachas one Torah commandment {Carrying} and one Oral law {concerning touching an item which may lead to melachot}}...

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/95907/jewish/The-Shabbat-Laws.htm


--- Quote ---Muktzah

Many objects have been designated by our sages as Muktzah--we are forbidden from moving them, in some cases, even for activities permitted on Shabbat. Muktzah may not be moved directly with one's hand or even indirectly with an object (such as sweeping it away with a broom). However, Muktzah may be moved in a very awkward, unusual manner, with other parts of the body, e.g.: with one's teeth or elbow, or by blowing on it.

Some of the categories of Muktzah are:

1. Objects which have no designated use, e.g.: Stones, plants, flowers in a vase, raw food (inedible in its present state, such as beans); an object that has broken and become no longer useful such as a broken bowl, a button that falls off;

2. Valuable objects or those which would be used only for their designated task, for fear of damaging it, e.g.: Expensive items: camera, crystal decoration; Professional tools: scalpel, electric wiring; Important documents: passport, birth certificate;

3. Objects that are forbidden from use because of Torah prohibition, e.g.: Non-kosher food, dishes that have not yet been immersed in a mikvah (toiveled), chametz on Passover; also included are objects used for a mitzvah, such as tefillin, schach (rooftop greenery) that fell off a sukkah;

4. An object whose primary purpose is for an activity forbidden on Shabbat, e.g.: Hammer, stapler, pen. However, one is allowed to move these objects if a)they are needed for an activty permitted on Shabbat and nothing else can perform that task, e.g., a hammer to open a coconut or a telephone book as a booster seat or b) The place the object occupies is needed, e.g., if a pen is on a chair you want to sit on.

Anything that a muktzah object rests upon is a basis--base for the muktzah and becomes muktzah itself if:

A. The muktzah item was left on the spot intentionally, so that it remain there for at least part of Shabbat;

B. The object was placed there by the owner or with the knowledge of the owner;

C. At the start of Shabbat, the basis supported only the muktzah and no non-muktzah items.

An example of basis encountered every Shabbat is the Shabbat candles on the table. The candlesticks are muktzah, and may not be removed from the table on Shabbat. The table holding the candlesticks may thus become a base for muktzah and muktzah itself, preventing it from being moved if necessary. To remedy this, we simply put another non-muktzah item required for Shabbat on the table while setting up the candles. Thus, although the candlesticks are muktzah, the table holds the challah or prayerbook as well and is therefore not muktzah.

Carrying

On Shabbat one may not carry or transfer objects between a "reshut ha-yachid" (private, enclosed domain, such as the house); and a "reshut ha-rabim" (public domain, such as the street). Examples of this prohibition include: carrying in one's pocket; carrying anything in the hand; wheeling a baby carriage or shopping cart, going outside with gum or food in the mouth. This prohibition also includes carrying in public hallways or yards of multiple dwellings, unless an eiruv chatzeirot is made. An eiruv chatzeirot is an arrangement whereby carrying in some of the above situations is permitted. In addition, the area in which one wishes to carry must be enclosed. This enclosure, commonly referred to as an eiruv, can occur naturally or be man-made, and must be constructed before Shabbat.

The Jewish community in some cities or neighborhoods constructs an eiruv which encloses several blocks. The area within the eiruv is then considered a private domain where carrying is permitted. If there is an eiruv, it is important to know its boundaries so as not to carry beyond them, and also to ensure before Shabbat that the eruv is up and not damaged.
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muman613:
http://www.torahtots.com/torah/39melachot.htm

Melacha (plural "melachot").

1. Melacha refers to the 39 categories of activity that are forbidden on Shabbat. Melacha, is not "work." At least not the English definition of the word "work." You may not carry a needle out into the street on Shabbat, yet you may drag a heavy sofa across the room. So what Melacha is forbidden on Shabbat?

The 39 categories of activity that are forbidden on Shabbat, are all labors that have something in common - they are creative activities that exercise control over one's environment.

Specifically, the Talmud derives these 39 categories from the fact that the Torah juxtaposes the commandment to cease work on Shabbat in Shmot Parshat Vayakheil, with its detailed instructions on how to build the Mishkan*, and the preparation of its components, as described in Shmot / Exodus 31 and 35.

*[Mishkan - Tabernacle; the portable, temporary version of the Holy Temple that the Jews carried throughout the forty years in the desert into Eretz Yisroel (the land of Israel), until they built the Beit HaMikdash]

This is to teach us, explains the Talmud (Shabbat 49b), which activities constitute melacha: any creative act that was part of the mishkan's construction represents a category of work forbidden on Shabbat. These categories are forbidden by the Torah.

2. Toldot - Work which is different from that done in the Mishkan, but which achieves the same result. These types of melacha are also prohibited by the Torah.

3. Rabbinic Decrees - There are a number of additional activities that are forbidden by the Rabbis. There are several categories of decrees that prohibit:

a. Activities that might lead directly to the violation of a Torah prohibition.

b. Use of items not designated for Shabbat use (muktzah).

c. Activities that might lead one to think that a prohibited activity is permissible (Ma'arit Ayin - The appearance of the eye).

d. Activities that are not appropriate for Shabbat, even though they are technically permissible (Uvda D'Chol - [resembles] weekday activity). The Navi Yeshayahu (Prophet Isaiah (58:13-14) recorded a prohibition against speaking of business and against weekday-oriented activities.

Here is the list of the 39 Melachot (main activities) prohibited on the Shabbat as listed in the Mishna Shabbat 73a:


PS: When I said that the use of a Phone on Shabbat would violate the 'spirit of Shabbat' I meant according to item 3d in the list above...

Israel Chai:

--- Quote from: muman613 on March 21, 2012, 06:26:27 PM ---There are 39 forbidden categories of labor which are forbidden on Shabbat. The sages derive this Halacha from the Parasha we read a week ago concerning the command to build the Mikdash, the Tabernacle... When describing the building of the Tabernacle Hashem says that all work must cease on Shabbat, all work involved with building the Mishkan, which we know involved 39 labors. Thus we learn that the 39 labors which are forbidden on Shabbat are these 39...

Here is a list of them:
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/102032/jewish/The-39-Melachot.htm
Work, in the context of Shabbat, does not mean that it is hard to do something, that it involves exerting energy, or whatever. Work on Shabbat is any activity which was involved with building the Mishkan. Thus it is perfectly OK to move a couch or table within your home but it is completely forbidden to pick up a pen and take it outside {violates two halachas one Torah commandment {Carrying} and one Oral law {concerning touching an item which may lead to melachot}}...

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Aww. My sincere thanks, and blessing regardless. As I understand it, I do deserve to die, and am cut off from my people for disobeying this commandement (I'm pretty sure the sinning in ignorace law doesn't count here, and I did hear of it in the first place, but didn't believe the person). How can this be repented of, if possible?

Israel Chai:
Also, does 3c mean asking goyim to turn off and on your lights for you is inpermissable?

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