Why the Christian Messiah is not the Korban Pesach

[muman613]

Recently I commented on a video on YouTube concerning the Passover Korban and the next day I was spammed with a bunch of Christian missionaries who tried to lob the claim the their 'messiah' fulfilled the scriptures by being crucified for our 'sins'. I have heard this claim in the past and know, because of my study of Torah, that their claim is completely ludicrous.

The Korban Pesach had absolutely nothing to do with the Korban made for sins. The Pesach offering was ordained by the Torah as a remembrance of our preparing to leave the bondage of Mitzrayim. And yet these missionaries continue with this claim that their 'messiah' was the Pascal Lamb.

Here is further refutation of this concept from an AntiMissionary site:

http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=129:did-jesus-fulfill-the-role-of-the-asham-qguilt-offeringq&catid=48:suffering-servant&Itemid=500


Did Jesus fulfill the role of the asham, "guilt-offering,"?

Did Jesus fulfill the role of the asham, "guilt-offering," that's used to describe the suffering servant in Isaiah 53:10: "If he would offer himself as a guilt-offering"?

Answer: Can it honestly be said that Jesus, who, in his final statement on the cross, is quoted as saying: "My G-d, my G-d, why have you forsaken me?" (Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34), willingly offered himself as a guilt-offering? The evidence points to the contrary. Yet, because Jesus died at the time of the Passover festival, the New Testament refers to him as the paschal lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7) who, by his voluntary sacrificial death, takes our sins away. To use the paschal lamb as a typology of Jesus' death (as the paschal lamb represented the redemption of Israel from bondage in Egypt, so Jesus' death represents the redemption of humanity from bondage to sin) is at best an arbitrary assumption without a secure basis in the biblical text.

A closer look at the biblical text should convince any objective student that the annual sacrifice of the paschal lamb is not treated, in any way, as referring to a guilt-offering intended to bring about forgiveness of sin. It was instituted as part of the celebration commemorating the redemption from Egyptian bondage (Exodus 12:14, 26, 27), and in no honest way can it be used in conjunction with a typological redemption from sin.

The New Testament portrays Jesus as being literally a biblical sacrificial offering. The asham, as all other sacrifices, had to be perfect, without spot and without blemish. Jesus was none of these. In addition, one must address the fact that not only is human sacrifice abhorrent to G-d, but that only animals with split hooves and which chew their cud could have been offered for sacrificial purposes. Jesus, as a human being, was unfit for sacrificial purposes.

How can Jesus be the paschal lamb sacrifice and simultaneously be the offering of an asham, a "guilt offering"? The functions of each of these two sacrifices are distinct and different. There are several sacrifices whose purpose is the atonement of sin, and there is no need to misappropriate the paschal lamb for this purpose. Certainly the sacrifice offered on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, affords a more logical symbol of redemption from sin.

The rewards of verse 10 are contingent on the servant's willingness to offer himself as an asham, or "guilt offering." All such offerings, as we have seen above, must be perfect, without spot, and without blemish. Under Roman jurisdiction a "crown" of thorns was placed on Jesus' head, cutting into his scalp. He was then scourged. Jesus was then affixed to the beam and to the upright pole with nails. The crucifixion preparatory treatment, the national origins of his executioners, the fact that he was a human, the geographic location of his death, the lack of a death caused by a literal shedding of blood respectively would render any potential offering as unfit for consideration as a fulfillment of a biblically required sacrifice.

If the New Testament is a continuation of what Christians call the Tanach, it must harmonize with the "Tanach." False comparisons will not do. The New Testament authors cannot pick and choose what suits them in order to make it seem as if Jesus willingly offered himself as a guilt- offering. Either Jesus is complete fulfillment of Scripture or none at all--and the verdict, clearly, is none at all.


For several reasons we don't believe that the Christian 'messiah' is Moshiach read : http://shuvoo.com/articles/YG-chapter3.php

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

"The Korban Pesach had absolutely nothing to do with the Korban made for sins. The Pesach offering was ordained by the Torah as a remembrance of our preparing to leave the bondage of Mitzrayim. And yet these missionaries continue with this claim that their 'messiah' was the Pascal Lamb."

 And neither was YeShU.

 Also the korban Pessah was made of the Egyptisn "god" and was specifically why G-D commanded it to be staken, tied up (etc. etc.) and then slaughtered. Especially on Pessah during the first month where according to the astrology idol worship this was worshipped.
 G-D said to destroy this idolatry without fear of any gentiles and not only any gentiles but the nation that enlaved and supposidly had control over the nation and on the outside could and logically should have taken revenge against the Jews for it.

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

Rav Kahane on the korban Pessah mentioning the "gud" of the egyptians and the self sacrifice of the Jewish nation.

 http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,60814.0.html

[Zelhar]

But Jesus was executed by crucifixion, not sacrificed on an altar.