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Tag-MehirTzedek:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on May 17, 2012, 07:23:44 PM ---Ok so what if someone sweats while walking to synagogue?
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"It is forbidden to exert oneself on the Sabbath to the extent of perspiring"
He is talking about one consciously doing it- as is done when working out, but if just walking to get to a place with having this as a consequence is something else.
Zelhar:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on June 04, 2012, 05:35:12 AM ---Here's a question, if a Jew is not permitted to carry a key outside the home on the Sabbath, how do you lock your house while you're at shul, especially in a place like New York City where people might actually try to get inside while you're gone?
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I am not sure exactly how to but I think in places without eruv if the schul is within walking distance you can can leave half way before the shabbat some food on some spot and somehow make the entire range between the home and schul permisible for carrying.
I recall my friend told me he had to use this method when he stayed on a kibbutz that had no eruv and no schul.
Tag-MehirTzedek:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on June 04, 2012, 05:35:12 AM ---Here's a question, if a Jew is not permitted to carry a key outside the home on the Sabbath, how do you lock your house while you're at shul, especially in a place like New York City where people might actually try to get inside while you're gone?
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Make the key part of your clothing. For example make the key part of the belt, not just hanging on it for no reason but to use it to tighten for example. Soo when you need to open the door you use it as a key, when not it is just part of the belt.
And Zelhar you can and should tell your friend that he broke Shabbath (although unintentially) and not to do that again. What he did was establish the whole place as a residency, but you are saying their is no eruv there. That whole thing with the food has to do with walking beyond the city limits and not for carrying on Shabbath.
Zelhar:
--- Quote from: Tag-MehirTzedek on June 04, 2012, 10:40:58 AM --- Make the key part of your clothing. For example make the key part of the belt, not just hanging on it for no reason but to use it to tighten for example. Soo when you need to open the door you use it as a key, when not it is just part of the belt.
And Zelhar you can and should tell your friend that he broke Shabbath (although unintentially) and not to do that again. What he did was establish the whole place as a residency, but you are saying their is no eruv there. That whole thing with the food has to do with walking beyond the city limits and not for carrying on Shabbath.
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One thing I am sure is that he didn't violate shabbat. He is very frum and knows what he's doing. But what I wrote here could be wrong.
Tag-MehirTzedek:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on June 04, 2012, 11:11:11 AM ---That's a good idea. You could probably fashion a key into a tie clip also.
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Zelhar- maybe they had a fence etc.
Dan- Yes. Or another way of dealing with this is to have a sort of combination lock that opens the house. Not sure how to describe it properly but I have seen this before.
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