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Zelhar:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on May 11, 2012, 10:29:52 AM ---I don't go to them for spiritual guidance. What's going on here is if I find one true video or interesting thing they have to say that is not currently accepted by the majority of Jews, you try to dig up something that they said that doesn't go along with JTF ideology, rendering anything they have to say worthless. I don't agree with everything this woman says, or everything that Rabbi Asher Meza says. Putting up one video of theirs is not meant to endorse them as spiritual guides. But they are right about certain things, such as Lurianic Kabbalah. Rabbis have written against Lurianic Kabbala. I don't know if Luria was exactly a Vatican plant, but it is an interesting theory, and it's nice to see there are Orthodox Jews out there fighting against mysticism.
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I show to you that these people are frauds. You can't learn anything that has to do with morality from such people. If you really want to dive into this issue I think you should look into credible Jewish rabbis and Jewish literature.
But if you really want to learn how to defame kabalah from self hating Jews look into the arch kike Gershom Scholem.
Zelhar:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on May 11, 2012, 11:11:03 AM ---Actually the woman in these videos claims that the true original kabbalah has to do with morality. It has nothing to do with the pagan concepts of Isaac Luria, but with spiritual exercises of morality that involves things like fasting, prayer, random acts of kindness, etc. in a continuous way that is designed to prepare a person to receive prophecy (not that they actually will receive prophecy). Now I don't know if this actually is real "kabbalah", but again, it is an interesting theory. And the morality version of kabbalah has much more appeal to me than the occult version. I am attracted to morality and truth-seeking. This is what attracted me to Judaism, Kahanist ideology, and Rambam.
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I suggest you try to read the books of rabbi Moshe Chaim Luzzatto. מסילת ישרים in particular which is one of the foundations of the morality literature in Judaism. You cannot learn morality from lying frauds like that woman.
muman613:
This is utter nonsense...
It is a defamation of Judaism. There are many videos on Youtube which claim Kabbalah to be witchcraft, usually posted by Christians who hate Judaism.
This too is one of those crappy videos...
PS: The logic of claiming that the Vatican wants Tzfat because Luria was a 'plant' is about as logical as claiming that King David was a Vatican plant because the Vatican is interested in the City of David also...
muman613:
Here is a biography of Rabbi Isaac Luria from Chabad:
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/111878/jewish/Rabbi-Isaac-Luria-The-Ari-Hakodosh.htm
Rabbi Isaac Luria - The Ari Hakodosh
The Arizal (5294-5332; 1534-1572)
Rabbi Isaac Halevi Luria has become famous as the "Ari," the holy lion; Ari represents the initials of “Ashkenazi Rabbi Isaac” As his name indicates, his family originally lived in Germany, whence they had wandered to Jerusalem. There the man was born who was to play a magnificent role not only in that century of spiritual and cultural revolutions, but down to our very days.
At a very early age Rabbi Isaac Luria lost his father and he went to Cairo, Egypt, where Mordecai Frances, the rich brother of his mother took care of his upbringing and education. He attended the Yeshiva of Rabbi David ben Zimri, the Chief Rabbi of Egypt, known as the author of many great commentaries and responsa under the name of Radbaz. The brilliant youngster became one of the close disciples of the Radbaz, and his studies of the Talmud early promoted him to heights of scholarly achievements. The only extant product of his work in Gemara and Halachah, is a commentary to Zevachim. When Rabbi Mordecai Frances saw the great success of his young nephew, he gave him his daughter as a wife and assured him of sufficient means for a livelihood.
Yet the deep and introspective nature of Rabbi Isaac Luria was not satisfied by the study of Halachah alone. He acquired knowledge of Cabbala and devoted his entire life to its study and dissemination. At an early age he began his long stays in the solitude of the Nile River. For seven long years he lived all by himself, immersed in the study of the "Zohar," the main work of Cabbala, and other minor Cabbalistic writings, and returned only once a week, on Shabbos, to his family in Cairo. Possessed of a fiery and noble soul, he was wholly attracted to the universe of deeper wisdom and sought the meaningful interpretation of all phases of life, nature, and prayer. He spent many days in fast, prayer and study. In his tireless efforts to penetrate the inner chambers of the Torah, he discovered much of the true meaning of the Jewish faith. He was able to work out a whole system of a Cabbalistic doctrine on the world, and on the role of the Torah and its commandments in the life of man.
Filled with the fire of inspiration and enthusiasm, he set out to cleanse the world of the spirit of impurity and to replace the rule of evil by the recognition of G-d. About the year 1569, he took his family and migrated to Jerusalem and from there to Safed, the center of all study and practice of Cabbala. Soon a large group of disciples gathered about him and listened to his interpretations of the deeper meaning of all happenings and occurrences in the world. More and more men flocked to him and accepted the tenets of a holy and ascetic life which the Ari Hakodosh set down as a necessary requirement for participation in the circle of his followers. Under his inspired guidance, prayer assumed a deeper meaning, since the significance of each word and phrase was interpreted by him. The fast days and holidays turned into genuine turning points of religious life, and the Shabbos became the pivot of holy experience and inspiration, for it was devoted exclusively to spiritual activity. Each Sabbath meal, filled with songs of holy content, many of them written and composed by the Ari Hakodosh himself, was an offering to G-d, and the Melaveh Malkeh represented a stirring tribute to the departing Sabbath.
In such and similar manner, most aspects of the Jewish life and faith were given new content and color. Rabbi Isaac Luria's teachings were spread wide and far and reached all corners of the world, wherever Jews had settled. Amongst the most ardent exponents of the Ari's teachings was his disciple and successor to the leadership of the Cabbalists, Rabbi Chaim Vital. Rabbi Chaim Vital recorded the revelations and explanations of his great master, and they were among the most printed books in those early days of the printing press. Another ardent disciple and exponent was Rabbi Israel Saruk.
Rabbi Isaac Luria's personality inspired all the great men who had penetrated deeper than most mortals, into the world of Cabbala. The Ari died at the age of thirty-eight years, mourned by the entire Jewish people. Despite his short life, he left an indelible impression on religious Jewish life and religious reaching. He introduced many holy Minhagim (customs) which have become part and parcel of our customs and services. His songs and prayers have been widely adopted and partially incorporated into the Siddur. Entire communities guide themselves by the "Nusach HoAri" and much of his teachings has been used to form the basis of the great Chassidic movement. Due to his influence and inspiration Judaism was able to withstand the onslaughts of many creeds and ideas that were promoted during the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. He certainly counts among the holiest and most important leaders of the Jewish people.
Tag-MehirTzedek:
I don't identify myself with "Kabbalism" or whatever, but to say that the Ari was a Vatican plant is absurd. Even Rav Yakov Emdem (who wrote agains't the Zohar) had great respect for the Ari.
Also just as their are issues with the Zohar their are also some issues with More Nevuhim are we going to demify everything? Take what is truthful and correct, what is problematic don't accept and what your no tsure put in your maybe column at your mind.
By the way I listened to this lady before, she is kookoo.
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