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To Whom Qabala May Concern — The Authenticity of the Zohar –Update 02
Israel Chai:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on May 21, 2012, 09:47:39 PM ---Jews have also been persecuted for being communists. This does not mean that communism is true Judaism or that there is validity to communism.
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The analogy isn't the same, commieism is bad and not Jewish, while Kaballah is good and Jewish. Don't promote the idea that Zohar is bad (I disagree with the analogy that the fact it says the temple will fall from the sky, or etc. encourages passivity. To the contrary, it encourages me not only to do it, but work really hard to make it fit in. And nothing about Jews returning home wasn't magical...), or secularnazist (a.k.a. murderreligiousjews) will come back and promote that as a way of sneaking in. Even if they'll try to massacre us again regardless, don't make it easy for them to look holy when they're at it.
muman613:
--- Quote from: LocustKillingZealot on May 21, 2012, 09:55:48 PM ---The analogy isn't the same, commieism is bad and not Jewish, while Kaballah is good and Jewish. Don't promote the idea that Zohar is bad (I disagree with the analogy that the fact it says the temple will fall from the sky, or etc. encourages passivity. To the contrary, it encourages me not only to do it, but work really hard to make it fit in. And nothing about Jews returning home wasn't magical...), or secularnazist (a.k.a. murderreligiousjews) will come back and promote that as a way of sneaking in. Even if they'll try to massacre us again regardless, don't make it easy for them to look holy when they're at it.
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Indeed most people I talk to {mostly Chassidic} do not believe that the Temple will fall from heaven. The way to hasten the messianic redemption is through bringing more Jews back to pure emunah and bitachon in Hashem, performing mitzvot, and doing all we can to ensure unity among all Jews.
There is no problem in questioning the sources... But to continuously do so will cause more divisions, and eventually {as you suggest} will invite attacks from outside.
--- Quote ---http://www.chabad.org/library/moshiach/article_cdo/aid/1128794/jewish/Particularly-Propitious-Mitzvot.htm
By Naftali Silberberg
Maimonides (Laws of Teshuvah 3:4) exhorts every individual to view himself, and the entire world as well, as being equally "weighted" with sins and mitzvot. The scale is standing still, and any one deed will tip the scale—both the individual's personal scale, as well as the global scale. Any one mitzvah can potentially bring salvation and redemption to the individual and the entire world.
As such, when discussing how to hasten the Redemption, the most basic answer is quite simple: jump at every mitzvah opportunity that presents itself. You never know which mitzvah – and it can be any mitzvah – will be the proverbial "straw that breaks the camels back" and brings the Messianic Era.
Nevertheless, there are certain mitzvot that according to our sages have a greater connection to the Redemption, and their observance hastens the coming of Moshiach considerably more than others. Let's discuss several such mitzvot (in no particular order).
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Tag-MehirTzedek:
No one is saying that Kabbalha is "witchcraft" and other such suggestions. We are talking about some ideas, some ideas that we (I at least) am agains't. Do people read the posts in their entirety?
And Muman- that is good to hear, again I am talking about the ideas where such things are problematic. We are addressing some problems
Ephraim Ben Noach:
Do you see what is going on?
muman613:
--- Quote from: Ephraim on May 21, 2012, 10:20:30 PM ---Do you see what is going on?
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I believe Tag is trying to highlight an issue which he considers problematic. Just stating that there are issues with Kabbalah is not the same as calling it witchcraft. I do agree that Kabbalah has become a confusing point and is not something we should spend a great deal of time discussing.
I just get defensive because a good deal of Chassidut has Kabbalistic ideas and I am afraid that good Jews may be painted with a bad brush...
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