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To Whom Qabala May Concern — The Authenticity of the Zohar –Update 02
Tag-MehirTzedek:
For the record, their were great Talmedi Hachamim, Yirah Shemayim who accepted the Zohar and similar such works. (Also those who rejected as well).
Ephraim Ben Noach:
NOT Tag!
Israel Chai:
I think Ephraim hates me. Anyways, nobody here suggested the kaballah is witchcraft, and neither did I make such an accusation, only that in Spain that's what they said, and indeed to an ignorant person a temple falling from the sky is all too mystical.
I do not believe the writer was worried we wouldn't get out of the way, nor intended his words to start the great Jewish sky-watching age. Whatever his purpose, I hear temple falls from the sky, and I stock up on c4 for the current abomination, or I hear Jerusalem's women get raped and G-d comes to fight, and I build holy nukes for him to play with.
I am not in the habit of denying Jewish holy texts, but I don't view things passively, as I never see the intention of a verse as being: do nothing. You were given a brain that works, and any and everything that happens was supposed to, so learning more from kaballah and trying to apply the prophesy or lessons in your life is the purpose, not saying: my life is complete, I have no need to help destiny and should sit.
Saying it's wrong is where the rabbi went off, I believe that interpretations that encourage an active role should be taught where disagreement arises, but of course they should be stated as what they are, because believing a man's interpretation of something holy as holy leads to heresy.
And Ephraim, I peed in your soup.
muman613:
--- Quote from: LocustKillingZealot on May 22, 2012, 12:01:14 AM ---I think Ephraim hates me. Anyways, nobody here suggested the kaballah is witchcraft, and neither did I make such an accusation, only that in Spain that's what they said, and indeed to an ignorant person a temple falling from the sky is all too mystical.
I do not believe the writer was worried we wouldn't get out of the way, nor intended his words to start the great Jewish sky-watching age. Whatever his purpose, I hear temple falls from the sky, and I stock up on c4 for the current abomination, or I hear Jerusalem's women get raped and G-d comes to fight, and I build holy nukes for him to play with.
I am not in the habit of denying Jewish holy texts, but I don't view things passively, as I never see the intention of a verse as being: do nothing. You were given a brain that works, and any and everything that happens was supposed to, so learning more from kaballah and trying to apply the prophesy or lessons in your life is the purpose, not saying: my life is complete, I have no need to help destiny and should sit.
Saying it's wrong is where the rabbi went off, I believe that interpretations that encourage an active role should be taught where disagreement arises, but of course they should be stated as what they are, because believing a man's interpretation of something holy as holy leads to heresy.
And Ephraim, I peed in your soup.
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I fail to see where Ephraim said anything intended to offend you... Could you please clear up what it is which makes you feel this way?
Israel Chai:
--- Quote from: muman613 on May 22, 2012, 12:15:34 AM ---I fail to see where Ephraim said anything intended to offend you... Could you please clear up what it is which makes you feel this way?
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He keeps accusing me of things, since I came. He implied I was in league with secularnazist, and here he implies that I seek to do something bad or another. I'm not actually offended, I don't speak when I'm mad. I just like it when people express emotion, because its so easy to know exactly how they'll react and play with them (well fun for me), and I was once told that if you give an idiot enough rope, they hang themselves. I tried that a couple times, but no, Ephraim is not dumb, but emotional yes, so I drag that lease around until he realizes that he's holding his own collar on. Tough love, I don't take sides with personal development, and its why all my friends love me.
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