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Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on June 05, 2012, 11:10:03 PM ---He did not study with "them", and Rabbi Qafah is not the leader of this nonexistent "group", he was the leader of the Dor Daim. These people do not accept only what Rambam wrote simply because it is from Rambam. They are dedicated to preserving Teimani Maimonidean tradition from influence of later innovations like mysticism. It is not mistaken to adhere to the Rambam's Mishneh Torah just as it is not mistaken to adhere to the Shulchan Aruch. People who do this don't deserve to be stigmatized. Scholars have more liberties than the average Jew. If Rabbi Bar Hayim can produce something better than the Mishneh Torah, let him try. I have yet to hear of any code he has produced that is better for the general populace than the Mishneh Torah.
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There may be some misunderstanding here. Rav bar hayim's issue is not with an average Jew who uses mishne torah as a guide for practical halacha! Rav bar hayim's issue is with "maimonidean scholars" (ie rabbis, who are rambamists) that religiously follow rambam on everything no matter how forced the position. There are rabbis like this, they do exist.
Rav bar hayim himself says he in the vast majority of cases sides with Rambam in halacha! And I highly doubt he would discourage any student or average Jew from using that guide if they needed a halacha!
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: muman613 on June 05, 2012, 07:28:47 PM ---I believe Rambam was one who believed in Spontaneous Generation...
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Talmudic sages accepted the veracity of spontaneous generation. It was commonly believed/accepted premise in those days... untilscience advanced and realized its not correct. Chazal in many cases followed the science of their day as we would expect scholars today to do for example with regards to saving a life- many rabbis are not medical experts but will trust the premises of modern medicine about certain life threatening situations.
muman613:
--- Quote from: Tag-MehirTzedek on June 05, 2012, 10:54:12 PM --- He is saying he wants to attack Rav Bar-Haim to get back at him apparently for being offended by something he said, but doesn't know what to say yett soo...
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I will not read what this Rabbi writes because my opinion of him is not very high. Virtually everything you have ever brought here to JTF written by this Rabbi contains attacks on other streams of Judaism. This leads me to the conclusion that this Rabbi has a shtick, one where he believes he knows the 'TRUE JUDAISM' and everyone else doesn't know what they are talking about. His approach is too caustic to me and I find it hard to believe much which he writes due to his constant attack on other beliefs in Judaism.
I will wait till a Rabbi I respect addresses these issues.... I originally didn't want to say this because it is a form of Lashon Hora... But I have said it, and it is how I feel, and I recommend that Jews who do outreach to other Jews not really spend much time listening to this Rabbi.
But you are entitled to listen to any Rabbi you like... I just don't think this guy is going to go too far with his diatribes against other streams of Jewish belief.
Tag-MehirTzedek:
--- Quote from: muman613 on June 06, 2012, 12:07:48 AM --- I originally didn't want to say this because it is a form of Lashon Hora... But I have said it, and it is how I feel, and I recommend that Jews who do outreach to other Jews not really spend much time listening to this Rabbi.
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You said it before. You did attack him before without any logical explanation. If their was a point he made thasat you didn't agree with, fine. Prove it wrong (at least try), but to say he is this or that and one shouldn't listen to him is just like the leftists did to Rav Kahane. Defemation with no explanation because not being able to deal with the issues.
muman613:
--- Quote from: Tag-MehirTzedek on June 06, 2012, 12:15:35 AM --- You said it before. You did attack him before without any logical explanation. If their was a point he made thasat you didn't agree with, fine. Prove it wrong (at least try), but to say he is this or that and one shouldn't listen to him is just like the leftists did to Rav Kahane. Defemation with no explanation because not being able to deal with the issues.
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I said what the issue to me was... He is always speaking derogatorily of other streams of Judaism, either Chassidus, or now Rambamist.... Even if he were 100% right in what he said I would reject his findings based on his approach, trying to prove that he is right and everyone else is wrong.
There is a way a good Rabbi can present his findings without saying things to insult other Jews.
Also I would not compare this Rabbi to Rabbi Kahane.
PS: I find no problem currently in Jewish practice which would require re-thinking the 'leaning' or 'reclining' on Pesach. It is done for the reason which we are taught, to act as royalty. As long as we do it with this kevannah and fufil the minimum amount to consume, we have achieved the mitzvah. Why does this Rabbi always have to pick out things like the size of a Kazayit {which Rabbis have always discussed around Pesach time} and make it into an attack on other Rabbis? His entire approach is inappropriate in my opinion...
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