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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2012, 06:46:50 PM »
I AM sorry for feeling negative. I cant help it. I see and sense horrible times.

And, yes, the alternative to HUSSEIN is Romney, so you all know what to do.
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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2012, 07:14:41 PM »
Bullcat:
I feel more concerned that so many Americans want to pretend that things will be OK.
Things are NOT going to be ok.

We HAVE to start looking at the truth; We ARE ALREADY bankrupt. Russia and China have formed a strong alliance and now advised USA to butt out of Syria--The WITCH, Hitlery REFUSES to listen. China now says that "War with US is imminent."

The ONLY hope I see in America is if people REPENT.
Repent for baby-murder, repent for homos, repent for kicking G-d out. Repent for turning our backs on Israel, G-DS choice of land and people.

We have so much sin-- that if America REFUSES to see how wicked we have been and our OWN wickedness has put this EVIL monster in...
I FEAR we will have him again.
I agree AsheDina! It is very sad what we have become. I talk to people, and a lot of people just think I’m over reacting, crazy, or a prude! So many Americans have not had hardships, or struggled to make it. So many in our time think this is America, that can’t happen here. Oh it will be just fine! NO IT WON’T IF WE DON’T PULL OUR HEAD OUT OF OUR DONKEYS!

If we get Osama again… All we can do is stand strong together, not give up, not bow down to evil, and love G-d! G-d will strengthen us, he will protect us, we will be victorious in the end!

NEVER AGAIN!!!
Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the horn, and the people be not warned, and the sword do come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2012, 09:17:47 PM »
The handing out of entitlements, pensions, deficit spending etc is money in people's hands which gets spent and makes up for a lack of private sector demand.  when it comes to reducing the deficit, there will be a good chance of negative GDP growth but eventually the private sector should regain confidence knowing the deficit is under control and there won't be tax hikes to pay for the debt.  It is a balancing act and things may need to get worse before they get better.  Romney will of course get the blame for any temporary downturn - Ireland is a good case study

As for money printing, the markets are now pre empting it so when it happens, there is less of a kick.  Eventually the markets will only rally on printing when there is evidence of real inflation

honestly with such a high percentage of the population from lazy minorities and dysfunctional family values, I cannot see how the us can ever get to a decent level of growth.  Sure, the us grew in e previous decade but that was largely because of the artificial housing boom

How does the 1.4 trillion deficit prevent a recession?  I'm no economics genius, so please spell it out for me clearly.

The reality doesn't bear out this claim.    Even "rumors" or "speculation" about QE sends the market higher.    It doesn't really matter what it does to the economy, the market trades higher on QE regardless.   If you think otherwise you are severely mistaken!   Stocks will go up and go up big if they play the QE card.   And everyone on wall street knows that, which is why when probabilities of QE go up (like in the past month or so), stocks already start trading higher.

All the doomsday warnings by "hyperinflation" loons has not been proven correct.   If anything there is a risk of deflation, and currently we are paced to be below the inflation target set by the fed.

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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2012, 12:48:54 AM »
I agree AsheDina! It is very sad what we have become. I talk to people, and a lot of people just think I’m over reacting, crazy, or a prude! So many Americans have not had hardships, or struggled to make it. So many in our time think this is America, that can’t happen here. Oh it will be just fine! NO IT WON’T IF WE DON’T PULL OUR HEAD OUT OF OUR DONKEYS!



NEVER AGAIN!!!

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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2012, 01:25:49 AM »
The economy is in the doldrums mostly due to the earlier predictions of the hyperinflation and due to the slow rates of profits in the manufacturing sectors. Hence investors are no more interested in the manufacture and nothing else works. Meanwhile Red Dragon China has widely expanded its manufacturing sectors now with improved qualities. This may lead somewhat towards redistribution of the markets.

Nope, you are too late for China.   Their growth is slowing now.    They even built ghost towns to hide that their manufacturing was sputtering - a classic emblem of topping out.    Demand destruction in progress.      And that's decreased demand for US coal, materials, commodities.    And one of the reasons behind the deflation.

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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2012, 03:59:05 AM »
Nope, you are too late for China.   Their growth is slowing now.    They even built ghost towns to hide that their manufacturing was sputtering - a classic emblem of topping out.    Demand destruction in progress.      And that's decreased demand for US coal, materials, commodities.    And one of the reasons behind the deflation.

Do you mean that global and US recession has nothing to do with recent advances of China. Albeit China too if affected but to the lowest extent.
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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2012, 06:53:25 AM »
The handing out of entitlements, pensions, deficit spending etc is money in people's hands which gets spent and makes up for a lack of private sector demand.  when it comes to reducing the deficit, there will be a good chance of negative GDP growth but eventually the private sector should regain confidence knowing the deficit is under control and there won't be tax hikes to pay for the debt.  It is a balancing act and things may need to get worse before they get better.  Romney will of course get the blame for any temporary downturn - Ireland is a good case study

As for money printing, the markets are now pre empting it so when it happens, there is less of a kick.  Eventually the markets will only rally on printing when there is evidence of real inflation

honestly with such a high percentage of the population from lazy minorities and dysfunctional family values, I cannot see how the us can ever get to a decent level of growth.  Sure, the us grew in e previous decade but that was largely because of the artificial housing boom
Have mercy  :::D ... The shvartza President is spending the country into total collapse... How do you make up for private sector growth which is real money that produces something by passing out borrowed taxpayer money at high interest rates that produces nothing...  I am not sure but the interest alone on the loan is costing about 30 to 40 cents of the taxpayers dollar... As for the balancing act h-ll will freeze over before the private sector grows when they know that that every dollar they produce in profit will eventually be stripped away to pay down this kind of crazy government spending.   People getting public sector pensions and social security are getting and spending money that in most cases they would be spending anyway and they are a bigger part of the problem than a help... QE1,2 ect. ect. only strips the American people of buying power which will eventually stall any recovery in a long term way... The stock market is a very poor indicator of how the economy is doing... For a large part most of the money there is what I like to call funny money... Here one moment and gone the next...The large players move money around bolstering the market one day making the market look attractive then taking the profit and causing the 2 to 3 hundred point drops we have been seeing....People sick of not getting any return on bank investments try to ride this crazy tide in the market with mixed results... Eventually small investors will see that investing in stock is no better then playing the horses and that's when the the market will lose its ability to recover... This administrations with it's make work policy and spread the wealth  ideas will only stall real growth and bankrupt the American people... With another 4 years of a shvartza Presidency we have no chance of any recovery... Romney may not be a total solution to the problem but will give us a far better chance then what we are dealing with now.
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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2012, 07:01:15 PM »
Hi Ashe Dina, I feel the same way.  Negative.  Lost.  I wonder where the world I grew up in disappeared to.  What happened to Americans?  What happened to right and wrong?  To worshipping G-d?   When did we become superficial evil worshipping wimps?  We cowtow to every sick element of society, even putting it up on a pedestal. 
I do know that Romney is our best chance to buy time.  To get ourselves back on track.  So I will support him best I can.
I hope we see more of you around the forum.  You are missed.

Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2012, 09:57:54 AM »
Presently the ever increasing Chinese economy emboldens it to take control over whole of the south china sea. The resources thus expected to be generated strengthen the apprehensions that the US may soon be relegated to the grade of superpower number two. Such apprehensions are a hidden but real factor in reshaping of the future course of economy and if no redemption is in sight, then the economy starts receeding in favor of China. After all the stronger magnet attracts more iron mass.

So if by the way Romney adopts real tough stands on the issues like the south china sea and Iran, then he can gather more iron. Otherwise he will be a repeat of McCain. 

   
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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2012, 10:47:55 AM »
We're four months away from the elections now. I'm scared, really scared. I don't feel like this is the USA I grew up learning about and expecting to live in. This is like some weird doppleganger version of the USA that's twisted and evil.

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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2012, 06:28:29 PM »
No because the voting constituency now comprises many third world people.  Look at their own countries and they are importing the same values and cultures.  They have helped vote in a communist that hasn't got a clue about anything and they also shape the new media which is incredibly biased.  The country is doomed.  A Romney presidency can buy some time but ultimately it is all over for the us

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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2012, 06:46:23 PM »
No because the voting constituency now comprises many third world people.  Look at their own countries and they are importing the same values and cultures.  They have helped vote in a communist that hasn't got a clue about anything and they also shape the new media which is incredibly biased.  The country is doomed.  A Romney presidency can buy some time but ultimately it is all over for the us
No no no! Positive positive! We have G-d they do not! This is how it always plays out!
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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2012, 07:14:23 PM »
No because the voting constituency now comprises many third world people.  Look at their own countries and they are importing the same values and cultures.  They have helped vote in a communist that hasn't got a clue about anything and they also shape the new media which is incredibly biased.  The country is doomed.  A Romney presidency can buy some time but ultimately it is all over for the us
Well lets all bend over and kiss our a-s goodbye... We at least need to try and rid ourselves of the shvartza Administration.
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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2012, 07:22:26 PM »
Yes.  It's a question of managing the situation best....I actually wish there was a total economic collapse because only then would what needs to be done get done
A) border controls
B) expulsion of illegals
C) deficit to surplus
D) removal of the federal reserve
E) banning of Spanish language in public
F) expulsion of drug users (would impact certain groups)
g) overhaul of the tax system
H) end to foreign aid
Etc

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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2012, 07:29:59 PM »
The handing out of entitlements, pensions, deficit spending etc is money in people's hands which gets spent and makes up for a lack of private sector demand.  when it comes to reducing the deficit, there will be a good chance of negative GDP growth but eventually the private sector should regain confidence knowing the deficit is under control and there won't be tax hikes to pay for the debt.  It is a balancing act and things may need to get worse before they get better.  Romney will of course get the blame for any temporary downturn - Ireland is a good case study

As for money printing, the markets are now pre empting it so when it happens, there is less of a kick.  Eventually the markets will only rally on printing when there is evidence of real inflation

honestly with such a high percentage of the population from lazy minorities and dysfunctional family values, I cannot see how the us can ever get to a decent level of growth.  Sure, the us grew in e previous decade but that was largely because of the artificial housing boom

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You are preaching socialism. You are saying that massive government spending is the solution to America's economic crisis. That we can spend our way out of this problem with taxpayer dollars. You really should support Obama because that is his policy. It was also Roosevelt's disastrous policy which kept the U.S. in the great depression until the start of World War II. It's amazing how the establishment has succeeded in brainwashing people into believing such nonsense.

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Re: Isn't anyone concerned about the coming elections?
« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2012, 07:53:27 PM »
Chaim I am not all saying that.  I am the most anti socialist person you would ever meet.  What I am saying is that govt spending can increase GDP in the very short term which is what Obama is doing.  However, as you rightly point out is a disastrous policy on many levels.  I further do not believe that GDP growth is a true measure of an economy's health