Pashtun Israelites

[dimitry]

Go on a religious forum if you want to convert. This is a right-wing political forum.

[dimitry]

Apparently, Jewishness is about neither religion nor race. Unlike a race, you can get in, but unlike religion, once you’re in you can’t get out. As with Achan, once you are a part of this people, you are the entire people. As Israel is eternal, so your bond with them is irreversible, unbreakable and eternal.

But most Jews are an ethnicity. The real reason that Jews are successful is because the Ashkenazim have the highest IQ of any ethnic group in the world (and that is genetic).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish_intelligence

[pashtungirl]

I don't think you had to read more than one post to know this.

Bullcat what the [censored] im trolling? how many time do i have 2 repeat the same [censored] 2u 1 i already said it here on ma posta that im cunfuse about israelties origin and wow i accused america 4 founding talis where th [censored] are u living in cave plus the whole world knows its america who founded and its true call me whateva u likeCIA worked with Pakistan to create Taliban"

[See end for comment from Emperor's Clothes editor]

LONDON: The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) worked in tandem with Pakistan to create the "monster" that is today Afghanistan's ruling Taliban, a leading US expert on South Asia said here.

"I warned them that we were creating a monster," Selig Harrison from the Woodrow Wilson International Centre for Scholars said at the conference here last week on "Terrorism and Regional Security: Managing the Challenges in Asia."

Harrison said: "The CIA made a historic mistake in encouraging Islamic groups from all over the world to come to Afghanistan." The US provided $3 billion for building up these Islamic groups, and it accepted Pakistan's demand that they should decide how this money should be spent, Harrison said.

Harrison, who spoke before the Taliban assault on the Buddha statues was launched, told the gathering of security experts that he had meetings with CIA leaders at the time when Islamic forces were being strengthened in Afghanistan. "They told me these people were fanatical, and the more fierce they were the more fiercely they would fight the Soviets," he said. "I warned them that we were creating a monster."

Harrison, who has written five books on Asian affairs and US relations with Asia, has had extensive contact with the CIA and political leaders in South Asia. Harrison was a senior associate of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace between 1974 and 1996.

Harrison who is now senior fellow with The Century Foundation recalled a conversation he had with the late Gen Zia-ul Haq of Pakistan. "Gen Zia spoke to me about expanding Pakistan's sphere of influence to control Afghanistan, then Uzbekistan and Tajikstan and then Iran and Turkey," Harrison said. That design continues, he said. Gen.Mohammed Aziz who was involved in that Zia plan has been elevated now to a key position by Chief Executive, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, Harrison said.

The old associations between the intelligence agencies continue, Harrison said. "The CIA still has close links with the ISI (Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence)."

Today that money and those weapons have helped build up the Taliban, Harrison said. "The Taliban are not just recruits from 'madrassas' (Muslim theological schools) but are on the payroll of the ISI (Inter Services Intelligence, the intelligence wing of the Pakistani government)." The Taliban are now "making a living out of terrorism."

Harrison said the UN Security Council resolution number 1333 calls for an embargo on arms to the Taliban. "But it is a resolution without teeth because it does not provide sanctions for non-compliance," he said. "The US is not backing the Russians who want to give more teeth to the resolution."

Now it is Pakistan that "holds the key to the future of Afghanistan," Harrison said. The creation of the Taliban was central to Pakistan's "pan-Islamic vision," Harrison said.

It came after "the CIA made the historic mistake of encouraging Islamic groups from all over the world to come to Afghanistan," he said. The creation of the Taliban had been "actively encouraged by the ISI and the CIA," he said. "Pakistan has been building up Afghan collaborators who will sustain Pakistan," he said. And here watch this 2. and thishttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7b7kIhvgeNg  and im i joined the the jtf just 2 learn about ma origin and get rid off the cunfusion and im not gonna waiste ma time with u guys u people are so narrow minded

[pashtungirl]

Pashtuns are muslims who inhabit Afghanistan where they form the majority of muslim Nazi Taliban, which is known for its savagely brutal treatment of women. They veil, lock, segregate, beat, stone, behead, mutilate their women and treat them worse than chattel. Of course, they cannot blame their Nazi so-called "religion" islam. As you know, muzzies are such sick Jew-haters that they blame Jews even for what their violent Nazi so-called "holy" books quran and hadiths say.

They often claim how the mind of their pedophile "prophet" Muhammad (ys'v) was corrupted by Jews and this is why he started stoning people to death (I kid you not, this is what these parasitic filthy subhumans claim). Muzzies don't like pointing out at their own Nazi religion, so this is when these muslim fanatics in Afghanistan invented this absurd myth that they are one of the "lost tribes of Israel" in order to claim that the reason they oppress women is because they follow laws of Torah, which muslim scum often likes to accuse of the so-called mistreatment of women. 


Even if there are certain customs Pashtuns practice outside of islam, they have nothing to do with Halakha. Pashtuns trace their origins to ancient Persians and had been practicing Zoroastrianism before embracing islam. Zoroastrianism and Judaism share many similar laws, so it is likely that Pashtunwali (Pashtun code of conduct) is based on Zoroastrianism. But the claim that they are lost Jews is absurd beyond belief.
Do u even know what is zoroastrian is ? zoroarz people where were worshping a fire be4 islam we pashtun worshiped one god and islam came we accepted so and im afghan girl proud 2 be ma parents loves me more than anything and whateva i want 2 do tey let me and u saw somedick heads doesnt mean that represents all afghan mens and nobody said it we are following thora law or to make thora bad and thora is palce in afghanistan so if u say 2 any1 other of us they wil think that u talking about the palce in suthren afghanistan and we pashtuns are not persains at all  i believe we are ancient greek

[mord]

Why is everyone picking on Pashtun Girl all she did is ask a question.She also unmasks the Jew hater Brezinski

[pashtungirl]

Go on a religious forum if you want to convert. This is a right-wing political forum.

Thanks ill try it

[pashtungirl]

Why is everyone picking on Pashtun Girl all she did is ask a question.She also unmasks the Jew hater Brezinski

Mord love ya and i appericate ur comments thanks

[muman613]

Unmasks Brezinzki? Are you kidding? Who here believed this Jew hating agent of Jimmy Carter (his national security adivser) was ever anything but a Jew hater?

[muman613]

Your blaming CIA and America for the Taliban is misplaced. Their barbaric practices are straight from the Koran and the islamic tradition not from America or at Americas request. The only thing which CIA wanted was to establish a fighting force to oppose the Soviet presence in Afghanistan. It was the cursed Carter administration (although continued by Reagan/Bush till 1989) which started this program, called Operation Cyclone, which intended to degrade soviets position in the war in Afghanistan. To think that the purpose was to spread islam is foolish, very few Americans were involved with how the weapons and support were used...

See this article from wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

The program[edit]

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On 3 July 1979, Carter signed a presidential finding authorizing funding for anticommunist guerrillas in Afghanistan.[2] Following the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan in December Operation Storm-333 and installation of a more pro-Soviet president, Babrak Karmal, Carter announced, "The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan is the greatest threat to peace since the Second World War".[12]

President Reagan greatly expanded the program as part of the Reagan Doctrine of aiding anti-Soviet resistance movements abroad. To execute this policy, Reagan deployed CIA Special Activities Division paramilitary officers to equip the Mujihadeen forces against the Red Army. Although the CIA and Texas Congressman Charlie Wilson have received the most attention for their roles, the key architect of the strategy was Michael G. Vickers, a young CIA paramilitary officer working for Gust Avrakotos, the CIA's regional head who had a close relationship with Wilson. Vicker's strategy was to use a broad mix of weapons, tactics, logistics, along with training programs, to enhance the rebels' ability to fight a guerilla war against the Soviets.[13][14] Reagan's program assisted in ending the Soviet's occupation in Afghanistan.[15][16] A Pentagon senior official, Michael Pillsbury, successfully advocated providing Stinger missiles to the Afghan resistance, according to recent books and academic articles.[17]

The program relied heavily on the Pakistani President Mohammad Zia ul-Haq, who had a close relationship with Wilson. His Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) was an intermediary for funds distribution, passing of weapons, military training and financial support to Afghan resistance groups.[18] Along with funding from similar programs from Britain's MI6 and SAS, Saudi Arabia, and the People's Republic of China,[19] the ISI armed and trained over 100,000 insurgents between 1978 and 1992[citation needed]. They encouraged the volunteers from the Arab states to join the Afghan resistance in its struggle against the Soviet troops based in Afghanistan.[18]

According to Peter Bergen, writing in Holy War, Inc., no Americans trained or had direct contact with the mujahideen.[20] The skittish CIA had fewer than 10 operatives in the region because it "feared it would be blamed, like in Guatemala".[21] Civilian personnel from the U.S. Department of State and the CIA frequently visited the Afghanistan-Pakistan border area during this time, and the US contributed generously to aiding Afghan refugees.

The U.S.-built Stinger antiaircraft missile, supplied to the mujahideen in very large numbers beginning in 1986, struck a decisive blow to the Soviet war effort as it allowed the lightly armed Afghans to effectively defend against Soviet helicopter landings in strategic areas. The Stingers were so renowned and deadly that, in the 1990s, the U.S. conducted a "buy-back" program to keep unused missiles from falling into the hands of anti-American terrorists. This program may have been covertly renewed following the U.S. intervention in Afghanistan in late 2001, out of fear that remaining Stingers could be used against U.S. forces in the country.[22]

With U.S. and other funding, the ISI armed and trained over 100,000 insurgents[citation needed]. On 20 July 1987, the withdrawal of Soviet troops from the country was announced pursuant to the negotiations that led to the Geneva Accords of 1988,[23] with the last Soviets leaving on 15 February 1989. Soviet forces suffered over 14,000 killed and missing, and over 50,000 wounded.

This is just more proof that the kinds of programs Obama is considering to wage war against ISIS are doomed to fail. By giving weapons to one radical islamic group or the other, the weapons will always end up being used against American interests. We must have a fighting machine capable of independently decimating the enemies of America and Israel.

[muman613]

Apparently the Taliban is pro-Pashtun... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Origin


The Taliban initially enjoyed goodwill from Afghans weary of the warlords' corruption, brutality, and incessant fighting.[191] However, this popularity was not universal, particularly among non-Pashtuns.

The Taliban's extremely strict and anti-modern ideology has been described as an "innovative form of sharia combining Pashtun tribal codes,"[192] or Pashtunwali, with radical Deobandi interpretations of Islam favored by JUI and its splinter groups. Also contributing to the mix was the jihadism and pan-Islamism of Osama bin Laden.[193] Their ideology was a departure from the Islamism of the anti-Soviet mujahideen rulers they replaced who tended to be mystical Sufis, traditionalists, or radical Islamicists inspired by the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan).[194]

Under the Taliban regime, Sharia law was interpreted to forbid a wide variety of previously lawful activities in Afghanistan. One Taliban list of prohibitions included: pork, pig, pig oil, anything made from human hair, satellite dishes, cinematography, musical equipment, pool tables, chess, masks, alcohol, tapes, computers, VCRs, television, anything that propagates sex and is full of music, wine, lobster, nail polish, firecrackers, statues, sewing catalogs, pictures, Christmas cards.[195] They also got rid of employment, education, sports for all women, dancing, clapping during sports events, kite flying, and characterizations of living things, including drawings, paintings, photographs, stuffed animals, and dolls. Men had to have a fist size beard at the bottom of their chin. Conversely, they had to wear their head hair short. They had to wear a head covering.[196]

Many of these activities were hitherto lawful in Afghanistan. Critics complained that most Afghans followed a different, less strict, and less intrusive interpretation of Islam. The Taliban did not eschew all traditional popular practices. For example, they did not destroy the graves of Sufi pirs (holy men), and emphasized dreams as a means of revelation.[197] They also frequently used the pre-Islamic Pashtun tribal code, Pashtunwali in deciding certain social matters, which often contradicted the Qu'ran. Such is the case with the Pashtun practice of dividing inheritances equally among sons, even though the Qur'an clearly states that women are to receive an equal share.[198]

Taliban have been described as both anti-nationalist and Pushtun nationalist. According to journalist Ahmed Rashid, at least in the first years of their rule, they adopted Deobandi and Islamist anti-nationalist beliefs, and opposed "tribal and feudal structures," eliminating traditional tribal or feudal leaders from leadership roles.[199] According to Ali A. Jalali and Lester Grau, the Taliban "received extensive support from Pashtuns across the country who thought that the movement might restore their national dominance. Even Pashtun intellectuals in the West, who differed with the Taliban on many issues, expressed support for the movement on purely ethnic grounds."[200]

Like Wahhabi and other Deobandis, the Taliban do not consider Shiʻi to be Muslims. The Shia in Afghanistan consist mostly of the Hazara ethnic group which totaled almost 10% of Afghanistan's population.[201]

The Taliban were averse to debating doctrine with other Muslims. "The Taliban did not allow even Muslim reporters to question [their] edicts or to discuss interpretations of the Qur'an."[202]

The Taliban mainly strictly enforced its ideologies in major cities like Herat, Kabul, and Kandahar. In rural areas the Taliban had little direct control, and the Taliban had promoted village jirgas, so it did not as stringently enforce its ideology in rural areas.[203]

[pashtungirl]

Apparently the Taliban is pro-Pashtun... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Origin


The Taliban initially enjoyed goodwill from Afghans weary of the warlords' corruption, brutality, and incessant fighting.[191] However, this popularity was not universal, particularly among non-Pashtuns.

The Taliban's extremely strict and anti-modern ideology has been described as an "innovative form of sharia combining Pashtun tribal codes,"[192] or Pashtunwali, with radical Deobandi interpretations of Islam favored by JUI and its splinter groups. Also contributing to the mix was the jihadism and pan-Islamism of Osama bin Laden.[193] Their ideology was a departure from the Islamism of the anti-Soviet mujahideen rulers they replaced who tended to be mystical Sufis, traditionalists, or radical Islamicists inspired by the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan).[194]

Under the Taliban regime, Sharia law was interpreted to forbid a wide variety of previously lawful activities in Afghanistan. One Taliban list of prohibitions included: pork, pig, pig oil, anything made from human hair, satellite dishes, cinematography, musical equipment, pool tables, chess, masks, alcohol, tapes, computers, VCRs, television, anything that propagates sex and is full of music, wine, lobster, nail polish, firecrackers, statues, sewing catalogs, pictures, Christmas cards.[195] They also got rid of employment, education, sports for all women, dancing, clapping during sports events, kite flying, and characterizations of living things, including drawings, paintings, photographs, stuffed animals, and dolls. Men had to have a fist size beard at the bottom of their chin. Conversely, they had to wear their head hair short. They had to wear a head covering.[196]

Many of these activities were hitherto lawful in Afghanistan. Critics complained that most Afghans followed a different, less strict, and less intrusive interpretation of Islam. The Taliban did not eschew all traditional popular practices. For example, they did not destroy the graves of Sufi pirs (holy men), and emphasized dreams as a means of revelation.[197] They also frequently used the pre-Islamic Pashtun tribal code, Pashtunwali in deciding certain social matters, which often contradicted the Qu'ran. Such is the case with the Pashtun practice of dividing inheritances equally among sons, even though the Qur'an clearly states that women are to receive an equal share.[198]

Taliban have been described as both anti-nationalist and Pushtun nationalist. According to journalist Ahmed Rashid, at least in the first years of their rule, they adopted Deobandi and Islamist anti-nationalist beliefs, and opposed "tribal and feudal structures," eliminating traditional tribal or feudal leaders from leadership roles.[199] According to Ali A. Jalali and Lester Grau, the Taliban "received extensive support from Pashtuns across the country who thought that the movement might restore their national dominance. Even Pashtun intellectuals in the West, who differed with the Taliban on many issues, expressed support for the movement on purely ethnic grounds."[200]

Like Wahhabi and other Deobandis, the Taliban do not consider Shiʻi to be Muslims. The Shia in Afghanistan consist mostly of the Hazara ethnic group which totaled almost 10% of Afghanistan's population.[201]

The Taliban were averse to debating doctrine with other Muslims. "The Taliban did not allow even Muslim reporters to question [their] edicts or to discuss interpretations of the Qur'an."[202]

The Taliban mainly strictly enforced its ideologies in major cities like Herat, Kabul, and Kandahar. In rural areas the Taliban had little direct control, and the Taliban had promoted village jirgas, so it did not as stringently enforce its ideology in rural areas.[203]

Really u got the information from wiki and written probably by persains who are anti pashtuns and talibans killed more pashtuns than any other people in afghanistan and pakistan so how the [censored] are they pro pashtuns?

[pashtungirl]

Your blaming CIA and America for the Taliban is misplaced. Their barbaric practices are straight from the Koran and the islamic tradition not from America or at Americas request. The only thing which CIA wanted was to establish a fighting force to oppose the Soviet presence in Afghanistan. It was the cursed Carter administration (although continued by Reagan/Bush till 1989) which started this program, called Operation Cyclone, which intended to degrade soviets position in the war in Afghanistan. To think that the purpose was to spread islam is foolish, very few Americans were involved with how the weapons and support were used...



U are  probably american so off course u gonna denie it that ur gov are the 1 who supported mujahedins during the sovite time and also u people dont like r April 1978, the communist People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) seized power in Afghanistan in the Saur Revolution. Within months, opponents of the communist government launched an uprising in eastern Afghanistan that quickly expanded into a civil war waged by guerrilla mujahideen against government forces countrywide. The Pakistani government provided these rebels with covert training centers, while the Soviet Union sent thousands of military advisers to support the PDPA government.[4] Meanwhile, increasing friction between the competing factions of the PDPA – the dominant Khalq and the more moderate Parcham – resulted in the dismissal of Parchami cabinet members and the arrest of Parchami military officers under the pretext of a Parchami coup.

By mid-1979, the United States had started a covert program to finance the mujahideen.[5] President Carter's National Security Adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, was later quoted as saying that the goal of the program was to "induce a Soviet military intervention",[6][7] but later clarified that this was "a very sensationalized and abbreviated" misquotation and that the Soviet invasion occurred largely because of previous U.S. failures to restrain Soviet expansionism.[8][9] According to Eric Alterman, writing in The Nation, Cyrus Vance's close aide Marshall Shulman "insists that the State Department worked hard to dissuade the Soviets from invading and would never have undertaken a program to encourage it, though he says he was unaware of the covert program at the time. Indeed, Vance hardly seems to be represented at all in Gates's recounting".[10]

In September 1979, Khalqist President Nur Muhammad Taraki was assassinated in a coup within the PDPA orchestrated by fellow Khalq member Hafizullah Amin, who assumed the presidency. Distrusted by the Soviets, Amin was assassinated by Soviet special forces in December 1979. A Soviet-organized government, led by Parcham's Babrak Karmal but inclusive of both factions, filled the vacuum. Soviet troops were deployed to stabilize Afghanistan under Karmal in more substantial numbers, although the Soviet government did not expect to do most of the fighting in Afghanistan. As a result, however, the Soviets were now directly involved in what had been a domestic war in Afghanistan.[11]

At the time some believed the Soviets were attempting to expand their borders southward in order to gain a foothold in the Middle East. The Soviet Union had long had a dearth of warm water ports, and their movement south seemed to position them for further expansion toward Pakistan in the East, and Iran to the West. American politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike, feared the Soviets were positioning themselves for a takeover of Middle Eastern oil. Others believed that the Soviet Union was afraid Iran's Islamic Revolution and Afghanistan's Islamization would spread to the millions of Muslims in the USSR.

After the invasion, President Jimmy Carter announced what became known as the Carter Doctrine: that the U.S. would not allow any other outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf. He terminated the Soviet Wheat Deal in January 1980, which was intended to establish trade with USSR and lessen Cold War tensions. The grain exports had been beneficial to people employed in agriculture, and the Carter embargo marked the beginning of hardship for American farmers. That same year, Carter also made two of the most unpopular decisions of his entire Presidency: prohibiting American athletes from participating in the 1980 Summer Olympics in Moscow, and reinstating registration for the draft for young males. Following the Soviet invasion, the United States supported diplomatic efforts to achieve a Soviet withdrawal. In addition, generous U.S. contributions to the refugee program in Pakistan played a major part in efforts to assist Afghan refugees.

The programEdit


A mujahideen resistance fighter shoots an SA-7, 1988.
On 3 July 1979, Carter signed a presidential finding authorizing funding for anticommunist guerrillas in Afghanistan.[2] Following the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan in December Operation Storm-333 and installation of a more pro-Soviet president, Babrak Karmal, Carter announced, "The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan is the greatest threat to peace since the Second World War".[12]

President Reagan greatly expanded the program as part of the Reagan Doctrine of aiding anti-Soviet resistance movements abroad. To execute this policy, Reagan deployed CIA Special Activities Division paramilitary officers to equip the Mujihadeen forces against the Red Army. Although the CIA and Texas Congressman Charlie Wilson have received the most attention for their roles, the key architect of the strategy was Michael G. Vickers, a young CIA paramilitary officer working for Gust Avrakotos, the CIA's regional head who had a close relationship with Wilson. Vicker's strategy was to use a broad mix of weapons, tactics, logistics, along with training programs, to enhance the rebels' ability to fight a guerilla war against the Soviets.[13][14] Reagan's program assisted in ending the Soviet's occupation in Afghanistan.[15][16] A Pentagon senior official, Michael Pillsbury, successfully advocated providing Stinger missiles to the Afghan resistance, according to recent books and academic articles.[17]

The program relied heavily on the Pakistani President Mohammad Zia ul-Haq, who had a close relationship with Wilson. His Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) was an intermediary for funds distribution, passing of weapons, military training and financial support to Afghan resistance groups.[18] Along with funding from similar programs from Britain's MI6 and SAS, Saudi Arabia, and the People's Republic of China,[19] the ISI armed and trained over 100,000 insurgents between 1978 and 1992[citation needed]. They encouraged the volunteers from the Arab states to join the Afghan resistance in its struggle against the Soviet troops based in Afghanistan.[18]

According to Peter Bergen, writing in Holy War, Inc., no Americans trained or had direct contact with the mujahideen.[20] The skittish CIA had fewer than 10 operatives in the region because it "feared it would be blamed, like in Guatemala".[21] Civilian personnel from the U.S. Department of State and the CIA frequently visited the Afghanistan-Pakistan border area during this time, and the US contributed generously to aiding Afghan refugees.

The U.S.-built Stinger antiaircraft missile, supplied to the mujahideen in very large numbers beginning in 1986, struck a decisive blow to the Soviet war effort as it allowed the lightly armed Afghans to effectively defend against Soviet helicopter landings in strategic areas. The Stingers were so renowned and deadly that, in the 1990s, the U.S. conducted a "buy-back" program to keep unused missiles from falling into the hands of anti-American terrorists. This program may have been covertly renewed following the U.S. intervention in Afghanistan in late 2001, out of fear that remaining Stingers could be used against U.S. forces in the country.[22]

With U.S. and other funding, the ISI armed and trained over 100,000 insurgents[citation needed]. On 20 July 1987, the withdrawal of Soviet troops from the country was announced pursuant to the negotiations that led to the Geneva Accords of 1988,[23] with the last Soviets leaving on 15 February 1989. Soviet forces suffered over 14,000 killed and missing, and over 50,000 wounded.

Funding

President Reagan meeting with Afghan Mujahideen leaders in the Oval Office in 1983
See also: Reagan Doctrine
The U.S. offered two packages of economic assistance and military sales to support Pakistan's role in the war against the Soviet troops in Afghanistan. The first six-year assistance package (1981–87) amounted to US$3.2 billion, equally divided between economic assistance and military sales. The U.S. also sold 40 F-16 aircraft to Pakistan during 1983–87 at a cost of $1.2 billion outside the assistance package. The second six-year assistance package (1987–93) amounted to $4.2 billion. Out of this, $2.28 billion were allocated for economic assistance in the form of grants or loan that carried the interest rate of 2–3 per cent. The rest of the allocation ($1.74 billion) was in the form of credit for military purchases.[18] Sale of non-U.S. arms to Pakistan for destination to Afghanistan was facilitated by Israel.[24] More than $20 billion in U.S. funds were funneled into the country to train and arm the Afghan resistance groups.[25]

The program funding was increased yearly due to lobbying by prominent U.S. politicians and government officials, such as Charles Wilson, Gordon Humphrey, Fred Ikle, and William Casey. Under the Reagan administration, U.S. support for the Afghan mujahideen evolved into a centerpiece of U.S. foreign policy, called the Reagan Doctrine, in which the U.S. provided military and other support to anti-communist resistance movements in Afghanistan, Angola, Nicaragua, and elsewhere.

The mujahideen benefited from expanded foreign military support from the United States, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and other Muslim nations. Saudi Arabia in particular agreed to match dollar for dollar the money the CIA was sending to the Mujahideen. When Saudi payments were late, Wilson and Avrakotos would fly to Saudi Arabia to persuade the monarchy to fulfill its commitments.[26]

Levels of support to the various Afghan factions varied. The ISI tended to favor vigorous Islamists like Gulbuddin Hekmatyar of Hezb-i-Islami, and Jalaluddin Haqqani. Some Americans agreed.[26][27] However others favored the relative moderates like Ahmed Shah Massoud. These included two Heritage Foundation foreign policy analysts, Michael Johns and James A. Phillips, both of whom championed Massoud as the Afghan resistance leader most worthy of US support under the Reagan Doctrine.[28][29][30]ussia and in
This is just more proof that the kinds of programs Obama is considering to wage war against ISIS are doomed to fail. By giving weapons to one radical islamic group or the other, the weapons will always end up being used against American interests. We must have a fighting machine capable of independently decimating the enemies of America and Israel.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

From everything I found. ... The majority of the Taliban were Pashtun.

What are the chances of a muzz rat coming on the forum the week of 911 talking trash about America. ..and them not being a troll?

[pashtungirl]

From everything I found. ... The majority of the Taliban were Pashtun.

What are the chances of a muzz rat coming on the forum the week of 911 talking trash about America. ..and them not being a troll?

Liar talibans are from all over the muslim countries not just pashtun and did u got fuked by pashtuns or something that u hate them and the whole world knows who done it 911 and rat is better than u

[muman613]

Liar talibans are from all over the muslim countries not just pashtun and did u got fuked by pashtuns or something that u hate them and the whole world knows who done it 911 and rat is better than u

I feel a ban coming on.... Moderators, have a look at this!

[muman613]

http://www.cfr.org/afghanistan/taliban-afghanistan/p10551

Introduction

The Taliban is a predominantly Pashtun, Islamic fundamentalist group that ruled Afghanistan from 1996 until 2001, when a U.S.-led invasion toppled the regime for providing refuge to al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. The Taliban regrouped across the border in Pakistan, where its central leadership, headed by Mullah Mohammed Omar, leads an insurgency against the Western-backed government in Kabul. Both the United States and Afghanistan have pursued a negotiated settlement with the Taliban, but talks have little momentum as international forces prepare to conclude combat operations in December 2014 and withdraw by the end of 2016.

Rise of the Taliban

The Taliban was formed in the early 1990s by an Afghan faction of mujahideen, Islamic fighters who had resisted the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan (1979–89) with the covert backing of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency and its Pakistani counterpart, the Inter-Services Intelligence directorate (ISI). They were joined by younger Pashtun tribesmen who studied in Pakistani madrassas, or seminaries; taliban is Pashto for "students." Pashtuns comprise a plurality in Afghanistan and are the predominant ethnic group in much of the country's south and east.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

Liar talibans are from all over the muslim countries not just pashtun and did u got fuked by pashtuns or something that u hate them and the whole world knows who done it 911 and rat is better than u

Who did do 911? No I didn't get fuked by Pushtuns (probably) I got fuked by MUSLIMS! No I don't hate Pushtuns, I HATE MUZZ RATS (Muslims)!!!!! You are a disgrace to your genes! Mohamhead was a murderer, fag, child rapist!

[muman613]

http://southasia.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2014/06/09/the_pashtuns_and_the_taliban

The Pashtuns and the Taliban

Abubakar Siddique, The Pashtun Question: The Unresolved Key to the Future of Pakistan and Afghanistan (London: C. Hurst and Co., 2014).

Hassan Abbas, The Taliban Revival: Violence and Extremism on the Pakistan-Afghanistan Frontier (New Haven: Yale University Press, 2014).

In these two well-written and comprehensive academic press books, Abubakar Siddique and Hassan Abbas attempt to deal with two different questions.  Siddique asks about the future of the Pashtun people on the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan, while Abbas muses on the return of the Taliban in the same region.  However, the two books end up covering remarkably similar ground.  At least at this point in history, it appears it is impossible to talk about the future of the Pashtuns without discussing the Taliban, and impossible to discuss the future of the Taliban with talking about the Pashtuns.

While almost all general readers will have at least some conception of who the Taliban are (though both of these books will give more nuance), the identity of the Pashtuns may be less clear.  The Pashtuns are a tribal people of about 40-50 million who occupy the largely mountainous space in the East and South of Afghanistan, and the North and West of Pakistan.  In an interesting twist, while the majority of Pashtuns live in Pakistan, they are an ethnic minority in a population of about 170 million, while the minority of Pashtuns who live in Afghanistan constitute the ethnic majority in that much smaller country.

[muman613]

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/taliban.html

Even after their ouster, the Taliban's brand of Islamist radicalism threatens to destabilize other countries in the region including Iran, China, Uzbekistan, and Pakistan. The Taliban's relationship with Pakistan is especially problematic. A high percentage of the Taliban are ethnic Pashtuns; Pashtuns are a sizable minority in Pakistan and dominate the Pakistani military. Public support for the Taliban runs very high in the Pashtun North-West Frontier province where pro-Taliban groups have held uprisings and sought to emulate Taliban practices by performing public executions and oppressing women.

Read more: The Taliban | Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/spot/taliban.html#ixzz3DXBlmCsa

[Rational Jew]

Liar talibans are from all over the muslim countries not just pashtun and did u got fuked by pashtuns or something that u hate them and the whole world knows who done it 911 and rat is better than u

Tell us, pashtungay, why do you keep telling people that our Holy Torah tells your backward muslamics to oppress women? Why do you, muslim cockroaches, keep whitewashing genocidal hatred of your [censored] Koran? Why do you mutilate your women and then point fingers at Jews instead of acknowledging anti-women brutality sanctioned by your own [censored] "religion" islam?

[pashtungirl]

Tell us, pashtungay, why do you keep telling people that our Holy Torah tells your backward muslamics to oppress women? Why do you, muslim cockroaches, keep whitewashing genocidal hatred of your [censored] Koran? Why do you mutilate your women and then point fingers at Jews instead of acknowledging anti-women brutality sanctioned by your own [censored] "religion" islam?

Lolim girl how im a gay? And like i said be4 i live here in russia and still here ma parents are pashtuns and they love me more than anything never got opreess and who said that torah tell us 2 opress women or anything?
i told u be4 if u read ma previews comments that if u talk 2 any other of us they will think that u talking about thora which is a place in southren fghanistan

[pashtungirl]

Apparently the Taliban is pro-Pashtun... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Origin


The Taliban initially enjoyed goodwill from Afghans weary of the warlords' corruption, brutality, and incessant fighting.[191] However, this popularity was not universal, particularly among non-Pashtuns.

The Taliban's extremely strict and anti-modern ideology has been described as an "innovative form of sharia combining Pashtun tribal codes,"[192] or Pashtunwali, with radical Deobandi interpretations of Islam favored by JUI and its splinter groups. Also contributing to the mix was the jihadism and pan-Islamism of Osama bin Laden.[193] Their ideology was a departure from the Islamism of the anti-Soviet mujahideen rulers they replaced who tended to be mystical Sufis, traditionalists, or radical Islamicists inspired by the Muslim Brotherhood (Ikhwan).[194]

Under the Taliban regime, Sharia law was interpreted to forbid a wide variety of previously lawful activities in Afghanistan. One Taliban list of prohibitions included: pork, pig, pig oil, anything made from human hair, satellite dishes, cinematography, musical equipment, pool tables, chess, masks, alcohol, tapes, computers, VCRs, television, anything that propagates sex and is full of music, wine, lobster, nail polish, firecrackers, statues, sewing catalogs, pictures, Christmas cards.[195] They also got rid of employment, education, sports for all women, dancing, clapping during sports events, kite flying, and characterizations of living things, including drawings, paintings, photographs, stuffed animals, and dolls. Men had to have a fist size beard at the bottom of their chin. Conversely, they had to wear their head hair short. They had to wear a head covering.[196]

Many of these activities were hitherto lawful in Afghanistan. Critics complained that most Afghans followed a different, less strict, and less intrusive interpretation of Islam. The Taliban did not eschew all traditional popular practices. For example, they did not destroy the graves of Sufi pirs (holy men), and emphasized dreams as a means of revelation.[197] They also frequently used the pre-Islamic Pashtun tribal code, Pashtunwali in deciding certain social matters, which often contradicted the Qu'ran. Such is the case with the Pashtun practice of dividing inheritances equally among sons, even though the Qur'an clearly states that women are to receive an equal share.[198]

Taliban have been described as both anti-nationalist and Pushtun nationalist. According to journalist Ahmed Rashid, at least in the first years of their rule, they adopted Deobandi and Islamist anti-nationalist beliefs, and opposed "tribal and feudal structures," eliminating traditional tribal or feudal leaders from leadership roles.[199] According to Ali A. Jalali and Lester Grau, the Taliban "received extensive support from Pashtuns across the country who thought that the movement might restore their national dominance. Even Pashtun intellectuals in the West, who differed with the Taliban on many issues, expressed support for the movement on purely ethnic grounds."[200]

Like Wahhabi and other Deobandis, the Taliban do not consider Shiʻi to be Muslims. The Shia in Afghanistan consist mostly of the Hazara ethnic group which totaled almost 10% of Afghanistan's population.[201]

The Taliban were averse to debating doctrine with other Muslims. "The Taliban did not allow even Muslim reporters to question [their] edicts or to discuss interpretations of the Qur'an."[202]

The Taliban mainly strictly enforced its ideologies in major cities like Herat, Kabul, and Kandahar. In rural areas the Taliban had little direct control, and the Taliban had promoted village jirgas, so it did not as stringently enforce its ideology in rural areas.[203]

And the reseon osma bin laden was giving refuge coz as pashtun we believe in pashtunwali which said pashtun tribal honour codes:

Melmastia – hospitality: This hospitality requires that any person be afforded the host’s protection. While in the care and company of the host, a guest should neither be harmed nor surrendered to an enemy. Hospitality and protection must be offered to all visitors without expectation of favour.
Nanawatay – asylum, mercy: This is used to describe protection extended to a person who requests protection against his/her enemies even if the request for asylum and protection is sought among the enemy. The person seeking peace is expected to ritually humiliate himself in some way. The act of self-humiliation is supposed to elicit a magnanimous gesture of forgiveness and leniency from the foe-turned-protector. Once Nanawatay is requested and granted, the resquestor is protected at all costs.t so  thats the reason we our people protected obama bin laden

[pashtungirl]

Tell us, pashtungay, why do you keep telling people that our Holy Torah tells your backward muslamics to oppress women? Why do you, muslim cockroaches, keep whitewashing genocidal hatred of your [censored] Koran? Why do you mutilate your women and then point fingers at Jews instead of acknowledging anti-women brutality sanctioned by your own [censored] "religion" islam?

Read the book or watched the movie called LONE SURVIVOR, 2 know about pashtunwali rather than making stuff up about opressing and the movie is made by americans

[pashtungirl]

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/taliban.html

Even after their ouster, the Taliban's brand of Islamist radicalism threatens to destabilize other countries in the region including Iran, China, Uzbekistan, and Pakistan. The Taliban's relationship with Pakistan is especially problematic. A high percentage of the Taliban are ethnic Pashtuns; Pashtuns are a sizable minority in Pakistan and dominate the Pakistani military. Public support for the Taliban runs very high in the Pashtun North-West Frontier province where pro-Taliban groups have held uprisings and sought to emulate Taliban practices by performing public executions and oppressing women.

Read more: The Taliban | Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/spot/taliban.html#ixzz3DXBlmCsa

Talibans get support from isi and its easy 4 the isi 2 use some poor uneducated pashtuns young boys 2 do thier dirty works and the pashtuns that living in russia or somewhere else are mostly in the army or doctors ma brother in the army while ma dad is a doctor and we know our enemies who they are while the pashtuns that living over there got no idea and they being used by enemies as shields and also gived us a bad name

[Irish Zionist]

This muslim terrorist supporting beast has been banned.