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ONE MILLION Haredim planning to march against a Torah command!

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Khan Krum:

--- Quote from: Tag-MehirTzedek on July 25, 2012, 10:45:36 AM --- Right, but I think you got the wrong message board.

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Sorry for that.

Yerusha:

--- Quote from: Yerusha on August 01, 2012, 09:27:52 PM ---Rabbi Kahane used to say that "The Haredim are IRRELEVANT!".

That used to be true in his era.

But now the Haredim are no longer irrelevant. Instead, shame to tell but they have actually turned in to ENEMIES of Hashem and His Torah!

Here Haredim proudly display a banner stating: "We will RATHER BE PUT TO DEATH than be conscripted for either Army Service or National Service"!




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muman613:

--- Quote from: Yerusha on August 01, 2012, 09:32:43 PM ---

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Oy Vey... Looks like someone is a little cranky..

Do you really think that the Torah commands us to join an organization which is against Hashem and his laws? I think that if the Army wants to be able to tap into the Haredie population they need to clean up the organization. It sounds like it is better to not join the IDF if it means losing your Jewish identity...

I mean Yerusha makes it sound like the state of Israel is a Torah state... But reality is completely opposite.

Yerusha:
90% of Haredi Yeshiva and Kollel students no longer genuinely study Torah, but just while away the hours sipping coffee and gossiping in the Beish Midrash. And if you want to see a real killer, try and come between a Haredi and his coffee!

If R.Kahane was PM, he would immediately order a significant number of Haredim in to compulsory Haredi Army and National Service Work Batallions. And an equal number of Hillonim in to compulsory Jewish Education Units, where their zero-knowledge of Torah, Jewish and Zionist history would be reversed.

The current social situation in Israel is untenable for much longer, and being that neither Haredim nor Secularists are prepared to compromise one iota, a Heavenly decree could be propagated whereby they all get punished together as Jews, as happened in the Shoa, where no distinction in the gas chamber was made between Haredi or Secularist Jew.

Ephraim Ben Noach:

--- Quote from: Yerusha on August 01, 2012, 09:53:01 PM ---90% of Haredi Yeshiva and Kollel students no longer genuinely study Torah, but just while away the hours sipping coffee and gossiping in the Beish Midrash. And if you want to see a real killer, try and come between a Haredi and his coffee!

If R.Kahane was PM, he would immediately order a significant number of Haredim in to compulsory Haredi Army and National Service Work Batallions. And an equal number of Hillonim in to compulsory Jewish Education Units, where their zero-knowledge of Torah, Jewish and Zionist history would be reversed.

The current social situation in Israel is untenable for much longer, and being that neither Haredim nor Secularists are prepared to compromise one iota, a Heavenly decree could be propagated whereby they all get punished together as Jews, as happened in the Shoa, where no distinction in the gas chamber was made between Haredi or Secularist Jew.

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What is your goal here, ma'am?

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