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The One and Only Mo:

--- Quote from: Tag-MehirTzedek on July 24, 2012, 10:03:04 PM --- True, but 1) who said others agree with that and 2) perhaps the governmental claim for that can be that the $ they invest in schools will then come back to the system in much larger quantities by the taxes collected from the higher paying jobs (at least this can be the argument made by some). Soo it is an economic investment.

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Not everybody who gets free money for school ends up with a high paying job.

Tag-MehirTzedek:

--- Quote from: The One and Only Mo on July 24, 2012, 11:26:15 PM ---Not everybody who gets free money for school ends up with a high paying job.

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 Okay, but it is an investment that statistically pays off. Its like buying shares in stocks. Not smart to only buy 1 or 2 or 10 stocks, better to buy many in bundles (like Mutual funds) because over time they will pay off. The argument can be made the same here.Although when looking at specifics their is much discussion that can be spoken and thought through about (if for example paying for any education or just specific education programs is the way to go- like nursing, specific in demand sciences etc.)
  With Haredim you can make a similar argument, true, but wouldn't we want the Torah to be free from governmental influences? I'm not saying NOT to support Torah institutions. Actually the opposite, but their definitely are problems with the current system on many levels.
 By the way I am opposed to many of the governmental waste in the BILLIONS of dollars with stupidity such as funding failed kibbutzim programs and business ventures, also in soo called "arts", media  and other such "social" non-sense, but really parts of government supporting their own institutions and friends.

The One and Only Mo:
I don't know what's going to end up happening in the end; what I do know is that Hashem is in charge.

Khan Krum:
Well Jews in that land, "settlements", are not foreigners, that is their land. There is no "West Bank" or "Gaza", only Judæa and Samaria and that has been promise to Jews and legally too it is legitimate Jewish land. So why don't Arabs go back to the huge masses of undeveloped desert they love yet never develop except to rape them for oil that they can enslave the world?

Tag-MehirTzedek:

--- Quote from: Khan Krum on July 25, 2012, 01:06:07 AM ---Well Jews in that land, "settlements", are not foreigners, that is their land. There is no "West Bank" or "Gaza", only Judæa and Samaria and that has been promise to Jews and legally too it is legitimate Jewish land. So why don't Arabs go back to the huge masses of undeveloped desert they love yet never develop except to rape them for oil that they can enslave the world?

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 Right, but I think you got the wrong message board.

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