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Re: Allen-T deleted his own account. He was not banned.
« Reply #75 on: July 01, 2007, 06:54:28 PM »
He had the nerve to call us 'pigs' in his latest video. I think that equals anger.

He also said Torah judaism was a lie........... I think that safely quallifies as anti-semitism.
Dont the christians belive in the torah what so calld Tanach ?
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Re: Allen-T deleted his own account. He was not banned.
« Reply #76 on: July 01, 2007, 06:57:13 PM »
Hmmm.

Let's see. The person posting the porn pics (which I learned of secondhand as they were [thank G-d!] already deleted by the time I saw the topic) left the message "You all burn in hell" or something like that. Downwithislam is the first person to witness this atrocity and he would be able to tell you exactly what was there.

Let's see. The pics came at the end of the same day (Friday) that Allen turned against JTF for good and started making anti-JTF Youtube videos and anti-JTF-named mirror registrations (i.e. "Pharisee Sullivan").

The circumstantial evidence is VERY strong, and IPs do not lie. I still haven't heard anybody reveal what the IP of "somethingnew" was, but Yacov or Jeffguy would have publicly posted that it wasn't from Allen-T if it weren't his.

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Re: Allen-T deleted his own account. He was not banned.
« Reply #77 on: July 01, 2007, 07:00:44 PM »
Chaimfan you are making a huge accusation, that you have only minor proof for.

It could be any nutter.

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« Reply #78 on: July 01, 2007, 08:41:51 PM »
Chaimfan you are making a huge accusation, that you have only minor proof for.

It could be any nutter.
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« Reply #79 on: July 01, 2007, 09:52:06 PM »
cjd:  "...Sounds like you may be on to something Massuh..."

If you only knew just how right you are, cjd!

Ole' Massuh' knows a lot more about what's been happening on the JTF forum than you'd want to know!


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« Reply #80 on: July 01, 2007, 10:19:32 PM »
Sarah:  "...Chaimfan you are making a huge accusation, that you have only minor proof for..."

Actually Sarah, there is no proof whatsoever; only baseless allegations.

Torah students know this behaviour as "casting aspersions".

Looking at things from around the globe, the Chinese have an ancient saying...

"It is easy to come up with the evidence, once you've already convicted someone of a crime."

The American Founding Fathers designed the most radical Court/Trial system in all of recorded history:

A person is INNOCENT of a crime until PROVEN GUILTY.

Therefore, the casting of aspersions, along with "manufacturing evidence", is in theory to be unacceptable as evidence to convict.

Torah Law is remarkably specific regarding trial procedures for someone accused of a crime; particulary with regards to capitol offenses.

Torah devised the uniquely Jewish concept of "Sanctuary".

A person who, for whatever reason, took someone else's life by accident with no forethought to doing so, was legally allowed to immediately depart for one or more "Sanctuary Cities", where they were allowed to live out the rest of their lives undisturbed and in peace.  They were granted asylum.

Torah is more strict that U.S. law regarding accusations of murder.

Under Torah Law, whomever accuses another of murder, is required by law to "cast the first stone" at them in executing them by stoning.

Not only that, but a person under Torah Law can not be found guilty of murder for circumstantial evidence.
Example:  You hear bloodcurdling screams coming from a building.  As you approach, someone runs out with a bloody sword or knife in their hand.  Torah Law forbids charging them with the murder, as it is entirely circumstantial evidence...someone could easily find a murdered person, pick up the weapon which had killed them and then was dropped by the fleeing murderer, and be found by others in the act of holding the weapon; thus appearing guilty, but in fact being entirely innocent of a crime.
Torah Law demands several eyewitnesses to swear under oath to having witnessed a murder, before it allows a suspect to be charged and convicted.

Talmud states that casting aspersions on another; thus embarrassing them publicly, is equal to breaking the commandment "Thou shalt not commit murder", because the law reads such that to become embarrassed, which causes the face to flush red with blood, is tantamount to "shedding the blood of another".  Interesting, huh?

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Re: Allen-T deleted his own account. He was not banned.
« Reply #81 on: July 01, 2007, 10:33:38 PM »
yes - it is.
Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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Re: Allen-T deleted his own account. He was not banned.
« Reply #82 on: July 01, 2007, 10:43:36 PM »
Here are some of the thing thet allen said :
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I thought I sensed a threat coming, but since it isn't, let me speak very openly. I believe that there is only one path of salvation. Jesus Christ. I also believe that it is my duty before G-d to support Jewish people and defend Israel. I also believe G-d has put a love in my heart for Jews that makes following the written command a pleasure to perform. I do not actively seek Jews to convert. I do speak to anyone who will listen about what I believe is the only way. I don't exclude Jews. You have to believe me, since being involved with JTF I have been searching to see if I am wrong about the relationship between Jesus and Jewish people. I have alot of inner turmoil and confusion about this issue. I have not yet found any basis for excluding Jews from the Gospel message. I am determined to pursue truth, and speak about it as I understand it as I go along. I mean you or any Jew any offence. But if it kills me I will pursue and hold up truth as I understand it.     

You are right that my number one priority is to spread Christianity. But you are in error from lack of understanding of what Biblical Christianity is because you state; I only appear to be your ally. Can I ask you a question? If I had "nefarious motives" why would I be telling you what I have been telling you the last hour? Wouldn't I be trying to hide this as much as possible? What born again Christians have you met that have turned on you because you are a Jew? You are completely off base to think I would declare any Jew my enemy because he didn't want to accept Christ. You are completely off base to assume that although my primary mission in life is to preach about Jesus, that that means I don't have a concept of "borders" in a situation such as JTF. If anyone for any reason came to my home to harm me or my family because of what I believe and how I practice it, be certain I will kill them. According to your thinking I guess that would make me an anti-semite, right? Even if every Jew in this organisation takes the position you are taking jdl4ever, I will leave with a heavy heart and nothing but love for you all, and alot of sorrow. But I will say it again; It better end there
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« Reply #83 on: July 01, 2007, 11:12:30 PM »
That guy is an absolute psychopath.
Didn't I say this almost ALL of the time I've been here??? Nobody listens to the black girl. lol

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Re: Allen-T deleted his own account. He was not banned.
« Reply #84 on: July 01, 2007, 11:15:23 PM »
That guy is an absolute psychopath.
Didn't I say this almost ALL of the time I've been here??? Nobody listens to the black girl. lol
LOL (are you black?  :))
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Re: Allen-T deleted his own account. He was not banned.
« Reply #85 on: July 02, 2007, 12:35:12 PM »
That guy is an absolute psychopath.
Didn't I say this almost ALL of the time I've been here??? Nobody listens to the black girl. lol

You are discriminating yourself or "casting aspersions" -yes Massuh!:)- that everyone ignores you.

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Re: Allen-T deleted his own account. He was not banned.
« Reply #86 on: July 02, 2007, 02:10:17 PM »
LOL (are you black?  :))

I'm black.


Ok... maybe not. lol
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Re: Allen-T deleted his own account. He was not banned.
« Reply #87 on: July 02, 2007, 02:11:32 PM »
I am not black, but I once owned a black dog named Foodstamps does that count? Kidding.
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« Reply #88 on: July 02, 2007, 02:16:01 PM »
That guy is an absolute psychopath.
Didn't I say this almost ALL of the time I've been here??? Nobody listens to the black girl. lol
LOL (are you black?  :))
Yes, I am.

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Re: Allen-T deleted his own account. He was not banned.
« Reply #89 on: July 02, 2007, 02:16:41 PM »
Don't believe her, Dexter. She's kidding with you.
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« Reply #90 on: July 02, 2007, 02:17:04 PM »
That guy is an absolute psychopath.
Didn't I say this almost ALL of the time I've been here??? Nobody listens to the black girl. lol

You are discriminating yourself or "casting aspersions" -yes Massuh!:)- that everyone ignores you.
It was a joke, Sarah... I'm often told to lighten up here. I am a black woman though.

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« Reply #91 on: July 02, 2007, 02:17:49 PM »
That guy is an absolute psychopath.
Didn't I say this almost ALL of the time I've been here??? Nobody listens to the black girl. lol

When did you say Allen was a psycho?

I don't remember that.
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« Reply #92 on: July 02, 2007, 02:17:54 PM »
Don't believe her, Dexter. She's kidding with you.
Who is? I am African American/ or black.

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« Reply #93 on: July 02, 2007, 02:30:55 PM »
That guy is an absolute psychopath.
Didn't I say this almost ALL of the time I've been here??? Nobody listens to the black girl. lol

You are discriminating yourself or "casting aspersions" -yes Massuh!:)- that everyone ignores you.
It was a joke, Sarah... I'm often told to lighten up here. I am a black woman though.

Isn't it racist to tell a black girl to 'lighten up'? ;)

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« Reply #94 on: July 02, 2007, 02:38:56 PM »
That guy is an absolute psychopath.
Didn't I say this almost ALL of the time I've been here??? Nobody listens to the black girl. lol

You are discriminating yourself or "casting aspersions" -yes Massuh!:)- that everyone ignores you.
It was a joke, Sarah... I'm often told to lighten up here. I am a black woman though.

Isn't it racist to tell a black girl to 'lighten up'? ;)
NO its racist to call a black girl a welfare whore.

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« Reply #95 on: July 02, 2007, 02:42:52 PM »
Suuuuure... we know you are whiter than Pee Wee Herman.

You are just trying to trick Dexter and it's not going to work...

lol
Okay....

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Re: Allen-T deleted his own account. He was not banned.
« Reply #96 on: July 02, 2007, 02:47:16 PM »
That guy is an absolute psychopath.
Didn't I say this almost ALL of the time I've been here??? Nobody listens to the black girl. lol

You are discriminating yourself or "casting aspersions" -yes Massuh!:)- that everyone ignores you.
It was a joke, Sarah... I'm often told to lighten up here. I am a black woman though.

Isn't it racist to tell a black girl to 'lighten up'? ;)
NO its racist to call a black girl a welfare whore.

Nobody called YOU that, did they?

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« Reply #97 on: July 02, 2007, 02:49:21 PM »
That guy is an absolute psychopath.
Didn't I say this almost ALL of the time I've been here??? Nobody listens to the black girl. lol

You are discriminating yourself or "casting aspersions" -yes Massuh!:)- that everyone ignores you.
It was a joke, Sarah... I'm often told to lighten up here. I am a black woman though.

Isn't it racist to tell a black girl to 'lighten up'? ;)
NO its racist to call a black girl a welfare whore.

Nobody called YOU that, did they?
Yes, they did. A couple of people here did, actually. I was just giving you the difference between racist and not-racist. I don't think "lighten up" is a racist statement... however being called a welfare whore is though.

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« Reply #98 on: July 02, 2007, 03:00:54 PM »
That guy is an absolute psychopath.
Didn't I say this almost ALL of the time I've been here??? Nobody listens to the black girl. lol

You are discriminating yourself or "casting aspersions" -yes Massuh!:)- that everyone ignores you.
It was a joke, Sarah... I'm often told to lighten up here. I am a black woman though.

Isn't it racist to tell a black girl to 'lighten up'? ;)
NO its racist to call a black girl a welfare whore.

Nobody called YOU that, did they?
Yes, they did. A couple of people here did, actually. I was just giving you the difference between racist and not-racist. I don't think "lighten up" is a racist statement... however being called a welfare whore is though.
Now that depends, if you were a "welfare whore" it wouldn't be prejudice for someone to say it, but as you are not it would just be an evil viscous lie.

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Re: Allen-T deleted his own account. He was not banned.
« Reply #99 on: July 02, 2007, 03:07:59 PM »
That guy is an absolute psychopath.
Didn't I say this almost ALL of the time I've been here??? Nobody listens to the black girl. lol

You are discriminating yourself or "casting aspersions" -yes Massuh!:)- that everyone ignores you.
It was a joke, Sarah... I'm often told to lighten up here. I am a black woman though.

Isn't it racist to tell a black girl to 'lighten up'? ;)
NO its racist to call a black girl a welfare whore.

Nobody called YOU that, did they?
Yes, they did. A couple of people here did, actually. I was just giving you the difference between racist and not-racist. I don't think "lighten up" is a racist statement... however being called a welfare whore is though.
Now that depends, if you were a "welfare whore" it wouldn't be prejudice for someone to say it, but as you are not it would just be an evil viscous lie.
As well as insulting. I don't think its necessary to have to THINK you're a welfare whore in order to be insulted by the comment. I know I'm not one, but I have every right to feel insulted by it.