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Ephraim Ben Noach:
"Also the Noahide laws are not secret."Quote from Dan. Did you know our country was built off of them?
muman613:
Anyway.... We are not going to reach an agreement on this tonight. Dan is entitled to believe what he wants. Each of us has a responsibility to honestly search the sources and using our experience be able to decide which ideas to pursue.
I don't care if anyone doesn't accept Kabbalah or mysticism as it is not essential for the observance of the mitzvot. What is important is for Jews to perform the commandments which were given to us at Sinai...
Tag-MehirTzedek:
Muman- "Just as the sin-offering makes atonement for Israel, so charity makes atonement for the heathen."
Soo the Talmudh concludes that charity is good for the heathens.
muman613:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on August 20, 2012, 10:36:55 PM ---After the Jews were exiled after the destruction of the Second Temple, only one sect survived, the Pharisees, which has become Orthodox Judaism. They passed down the Oral Torah. All Orthodox Jews have kept this. However, not all orthodox Jews have a mystical tradition. This is not because mystical secrets were only passed down to "some" sects (just as the Oral Torah was not only passed down to "some") but because it was invented during the Hasidic movements in the west and spread. All claims that it comes from the Talmud is extrapolation and reading it into the Talmud, similar to how Muslims say Islam was taught from the very beginning.
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This is not true... Do some reading of the Talmud and Medresh before you make these comments.
muman613:
--- Quote from: Tag-MehirTzedek on August 20, 2012, 10:41:52 PM ---Muman- "Just as the sin-offering makes atonement for Israel, so charity makes atonement for the heathen."
Soo the Talmudh concludes that charity is good for the heathens.
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That is not the question.... The basic premise is that the nations kindness is different than the idea of Chesed..
Are you aware that the Torah was offered to all the other nations before it was given to the Jewish people?
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