Torah and Jewish Idea > Torah and Jewish Idea
Shalom
Ephraim Ben Noach:
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 21, 2012, 12:06:59 AM ---G-d spoke to him. The definition of "Judaism" is not: 'Any time G-d speaks to man"
PROPHECY is "when G-d speaks to man." Judaism is something else which can include prophecy within it. It simply does not make sense to say Noah was practicing Judaism. Especially considering the fact that he was a gentile! (but even if we imagined that on some parallel universe he was a Jew, it still wouldn't make sense).
--- End quote ---
I understand he was not a Jew! But G-d spoke to him! Was he a mystic or a witch? Or just a nut job?
muman613:
Dan,
You are entitled to your opinion. But what you state is obviously not the truth. You may find one or two fakakta so-called heretical rabbis who spout the kind of falsehood you are attempting to spread... But I can show you hundreds of Rabbis who train Jews of the highest calibre who would tell you you are going off the wrong path. But you will never listen to me because you have established yourself as an opponent of mine. But I am sure, as I am alive, that your version of Judaism WILL NEVER be accepted.
muman613:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on August 21, 2012, 12:32:17 AM ---I'm not comparing Judaism to other religions, I'm just comparing various twists on Judaism.
--- End quote ---
No, you have been besmirching normative Orthodox Judaism as taught at most Yeshivas and Synagogues.
BUT Acher Metzorah knows better....
muman613:
Ive had enough of this foolishness... I am just surprised that there are not more real Jews here to stand up for our beliefs. Sometimes I wonder if I have stumbled on Psuedo-Noachide Task Force by mistake.
Imagine if Rabbi Kahane stumbled into this thread. How great would the response be against this kind of insult against our mystical tradition?
muman613:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on August 21, 2012, 12:52:00 AM ---Most in the western world perhaps, but not all, and mysticism is not taught by the Yemenite communities. Just because lots of people believe something doesn't make it true. Just as in the days of Elijah there were very few Jews who followed Elijah and most combined Baal worship with Judaism, there is a similar case today. People are waking up to this and that is why rabbis like Rabbi Bar-Hayim are out there saying the same things about the Zohar and certain mystical doctrines. When I first joined this forum I was shut down for even mentioning a hint of this message, and was once actually banned temporarily. But now more people are starting to take a rational approach to Judaism, and I believe this must happen as a precursor to the Mashiach, that more and more Jews will look at Judaism not only as religious doctrines to be played around with in the brain but also as a true, practical, moral, reasonable lifestyle in line with the faith and lives of their forefathers.
--- End quote ---
In my opinion you should be banned.... But lets just keep out of each others way, ok... It is odd you only selectively believe those things your 'rational' mind tells you to believe. While the entire enterprise of Emmunah and Bitachon are based on non-rational reasons. Maybe you can explain some of those mystical Talmud portions for us... Then again, please don't.... Some topics non-Jews are not permitted to learn.
What chutzpah for an am-haaretz to make such comments... Judaism is just fine without your innovations... We have believed in the coming of Moshiach for 1000s of years. Also why do you believe in MOshiach? He is not mentioned ANYWHERE in the Torah, and only alluded to in Prophets... Thats a rhetorical question... Don't answer it...
The way to bring Moshiach was and always will be, Torah and Mitzvot....
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version