Naftali Bennett for PM?

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

--Does Bennett advocate encouraging the Arabs to leave?
--Does he advocate ignoring the pressure of BHO and attacking Iran's nuclear facilities?
--Does he advocate ending Shas/Agudah shakedowns of the Israeli taxpayer?
--Does he stand up for Jewish prisoners and martyrs like Yigal Amir and Amir Popper?

 1) No. I never claimed that he does. But at least he will prevent a "palestinian" state and then give us the chance to buy time and then to transfer them out.
 2) I think soo.
 3) That is not accurate. I do not agree with them and what they do but it is no different then the other parties demanding $ to their institutions and things. For example kibbutzim took billions. As did and do all sorts of groups and parties including for art, sports, music concerts and many other things. These 2 parties in particular fight for $ to those who learn Torah all day (by the way the $ is low) and its wrong to perpetuate the distortion of the media and the leftists who try to portray them as some sort of bloodsuckers. That is a lie. The people vote and that is how they want their $ distributed and it is soo. Now their are things that should and are being done inside the religious world to change some of these things, but never-the-less it is inaccurate, wrong and a lie to refer to them as such.
4) No. Again I never said he has the answers. You need to know that things are not all black and white and need to stop always looking at things from such a lens or else we will never get anywhere and it will turn to be a big flop and turn off.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

They've tightened up the "racism" and free speech" laws in Israel since the days of RMK.

The things that CBP can get away with saying in NY would currently land him in Israel an even longer jail sentence than he served in the USA. Sentencing a true Yiddishe neshomoh like Chaim to 5 years in Ramle Jail for "incitement" is an Israeli lesbian leftist female judge's wet dream!

Bennett has got to be really careful, as they are looking for any excuse to ban him from the elections, like they did Kach in 1988. That Bennett or his family take a bullet/have an accident in the next 22 days is also a distinct possiblity, Hashem yishmor!

If Likud/Yisrael Beiteinu continue to haemhorage seats to Bayit Yehudi, there's an outside possibility that Bennett could actually be asked to be PM! Then we might have a low-grade Messianic contender - low-grade, but at least a contender!

Bull-loney. There are ways around the Israeli thought police and you know it. You aren't allowed to advocate kicking out the Arabs but you are allowed to request that they leave or offer to compensate them to emigrate. You aren't allowed to praise Jewish heroes but you are allowed to point out that they have been discriminated against, or to argue that they should have been included under the prisoner-releases and amnesties that Israel does several times a decade. You aren't allowed to say that soldiers must disobey orders to ethnically cleanse fellow Jews, but you are allowed to say that Jews must not be thrown out of their homes.

You are completely allowed to say that Israel must not kowtow to international pressure, and to say that it's time to sever the funding of the Shas mafia once and for all.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

1) No. I never claimed that he does. But at least he will prevent a "palestinian" state and then give us the chance to buy time and then to transfer them out.

The same way that Lewinsky has?

2) I think soo.

I have heard of no such thing.
 

3) That is not accurate. I do not agree with them and what they do but it is no different then the other parties demanding $ to their institutions and things. For example kibbutzim took billions. As did and do all sorts of groups and parties including for art, sports, music concerts and many other things. These 2 parties in particular fight for $ to those who learn Torah all day (by the way the $ is low) and its wrong to perpetuate the distortion of the media and the leftists who try to portray them as some sort of bloodsuckers. That is a lie. The people vote and that is how they want their $ distributed and it is soo. Now their are things that should and are being done inside the religious world to change some of these things, but never-the-less it is inaccurate, wrong and a lie to refer to them as such.

So, because Ron Paul advocates ending welfare and the income tax we must oppose that? That's crazy. Right is right and wrong is wrong no matter who says it. Shas is a parasitic entity and average Israelis all know it. In exchange for continuing to get money for their institutions and welfare handouts they vote however the Israeli government tells them to and then call it a halachic decision. Who are they kidding? I'd go so far as to call them the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons of Israel.

Who cares if they aren't the only ones playing the Chicago crime boss racket in Israel and who cares if they are "religious"? I think it's worse that they are religious and work this racket in the name of G-d. Chaim himself has said that the Torah scholar stipend needs to be very strictly reformed so that only a small handful of genuine lifelong students receive it and I agree with him.

4) No. Again I never said he has the answers. You need to know that things are not all black and white and need to stop always looking at things from such a lens or else we will never get anywhere and it will turn to be a big flop and turn off.

This is probably the most damning thing of all. He can argue that Jewish prisoners should be released as part of an amnesty, or that they should have been released when Arab prisoners are released. This more than any other issue tells me he is an utter fraud.

BTW, he has not even consistently said that Jews must not be thrown out of their homes. He has said that, but he has also said that orders must always be obeyed at any cost, period.

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

  1) Pipi did not create a "palestinian" state. And their isn't one now (thank G-D)
  2) Maybe ill show you later.
  3) About how Israel spends its money that is up to us the people of Israel. I don't think you should be telling us how the $ should be distributed. Also about their not being real scholars or those really learning- another myth. People do learn and they are extremely regulated and penalized (the whole Yeshivot) for being late. Again this is a very long discussion, suddenly cutting funding to our people is wrong, disgusting and immoral. We will not do this but I do agree to a more long term solution to get more people in the Haredi community to find and do work. Cutting funding means that they and their families with small children don't have what to eat, literally. (And their are many problems already as it is).
  4)  Did say that Jews should not be thrown out, then about orders yes he did flip-flop.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

  1) Pipi did not create a "palestinian" state. And their isn't one now (thank G-D)

Lewinsky is willing to consider one for Barack Hussein Obama.
 

2) Maybe ill show you later.

He can say whatever he wants to get elected.
 

3) About how Israel spends its money that is up to us the people of Israel. I don't think you should be telling us how the $ should be distributed. Also about their not being real scholars or those really learning- another myth. People do learn and they are extremely regulated and penalized (the whole Yeshivot) for being late. Again this is a very long discussion, suddenly cutting funding to our people is wrong, disgusting and immoral. We will not do this but I do agree to a more long term solution to get more people in the Haredi community to find and do work. Cutting funding means that they and their families with small children don't have what to eat, literally. (And their are many problems already as it is).

You have a point but Chaim himself agrees that this is a problem and I follow his judgment. Moreover, if significant sectors of the Israeli taxpaying public object to the special breaks and benefits that Shas/Agudah and their constituencies receive, I think it deserves redress. Why is large-scale redistribution of wealth ever okay in any country?

But this is besides the point; the point is that there is a pattern of Shas getting big handouts soon after it declares its support for something the Israeli government is doing. We couldn't have had Oslo without Shas, to give one terrible example.
 

4)  Did say that Jews should not be thrown out, then about orders yes he did flip-flop.

As I said earlier, even if he did none of the rest of the above, this is enough to prove that he is unworthy of our support in any way.

[Rubystars]

I heard something along the lines of that he said IDF soldiers should follow orders to expel Jews. Is that true?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I heard something along the lines of that he said IDF soldiers should follow orders to expel Jews. Is that true?

He did not explicitly spell that out. He said on one occasion that Jews must not be removed from their homes, and then on another said that orders must not be disobeyed. It's the same thing though.

[Rubystars]

He did not explicitly spell that out. He said on one occasion that Jews must not be removed from their homes, and then on another said that orders must not be disobeyed. It's the same thing though.

What a schizo!

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

בס''ד

The reason he speaks out of both sides of his mouth is because he wants the votes of both groups: those who favor disobeying orders to expel Jews and commit national suicide and those in favor of obeying these treasonous orders. This evil opportunist is a disastrous fraud.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

בס''ד

The reason he speaks out of both sides of his mouth is because he wants the votes of both groups: those who favor disobeying orders to expel Jews and commit national suicide and those in favor of obeying these treasonous orders. This evil opportunist is a disastrous fraud.

Thank you for setting the record straight Chaim (not that I ever doubted that he is a fraud).

[muman613]

For the record could someone please post evidence that he said what he is accused of saying. I have been watching this from the beginning and it seems to me that people are repeating falsehoods over and over again. He said that he would not obey orders to evict, and he would rather ask to be excused from service. Then he said that this was not an endorsement for others to disobey orders. So nowhere did he say that he thinks others should disobey orders, just that he personally would have a problem of conscience doing so.

So before I believe this please show, in complete context, where he says what he is being accused of.

Thank you

[Yerusha]

I heard Bennett & Shaked speak tonight live. Bearing in mind that they are handicapped by having been born in Israel, they both came across very well - at least as well as people born in Israel can!

Some rabbi (the Malbim, I believe) said 150 years ago that the Moshiach will be born in America: we await Chaim!

Meanwhile we'll have to make do with Bennett. He came across as more "genuinely Jewish", trustworthy and less divisive that Eldan & Ben Ari! Bennett has the knack of reigniting the Jew in the Israeli!

The Haredim in the audience enthusiastically clapped Ayelet, even in her tight jeans!

 
     
Bennett is becoming so popular, that there's even talk of him making a coalition with Livni & Yachimovich, with Pipi sitting in the opposition!

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

For the record could someone please post evidence that he said what he is accused of saying. I have been watching this from the beginning and it seems to me that people are repeating falsehoods over and over again. He said that he would not obey orders to evict, and he would rather ask to be excused from service. Then he said that this was not an endorsement for others to disobey orders. So nowhere did he say that he thinks others should disobey orders, just that he personally would have a problem of conscience doing so.

So before I believe this please show, in complete context, where he says what he is being accused of.

Thank you

So if you don't follow the news it's our job to dispel your misconceptions and "belief" in this new shiny personality?

[muman613]

So if you don't follow the news it's our job to dispel your misconceptions and "belief" in this new shiny personality?

KWRBT,

You must be whacked to say this. I read the news every day. I post quite a lot of information from a variety of sites. I have not seen any mention where he says that a soldier should disobey orders. I originally posted when he said that he would ask to be excused and would have a problem of conscience obeying such orders. Then I saw the accusations that he said to disobey orders, which was untrue. What he said is plain to see, and only those who twist words can say he said anything contrary.

Your obvious attack on me only makes what you say suspect. It should be simple to demonstrate that he said this, if he said this. But all I have seen is attacks from Bibi and Livni saying he said something he didn't say. So now you join in with their false claims?

If you show that he said this then you will convince me I am wrong. But I read the news about this every day, and to make an accusation like you made is completely ridiculous.

[muman613]

What I continue to be fascinated about the JTF message is that there is a complete lack of message other than all Israeli politicians are evil. OK, that is a nice message but THEN WHAT? Ok so anyone who votes in the Israeli election must be evil because they are voting for evil people, so that is the logic here. So living in Israel is wrong because there is no alternative other than electing fake rightists who are giving away the land. So the entire aliyah experience is evil because it is supporting the evil Israeli politicians who are selling out the state. Every single politician who rises upon a message of apparent right wing politics in Israel is a fake and a phony, according to our organizations mantra, because they are dealing with a system which requires coalitions. There is no alternative to this, this is politics, and short of a civil war this will not change.

So what is it that you are trying to accomplish... I have never seen a cohesive plan for this although I have brought this up so many times. The plan to cause Jews to sit on their hands and wring them in desperation because there is no politician who speaks for us only works for our enemies. I see this entire 'anti-Bennet' campaign falling right into the phony rights hands, causing their parties to be distanced from the undesirable extremism of the hard-core Kahanists. The real right wing is pretty much aware of the facts according to comments I have read on various Israeli news sites.

I would appreciate a real answer to these real questions... Because it is getting very difficult to see a future for Israel with the outlook I get from some members here at JTF.

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

  As I said earlier, even if he did none of the rest of the above, this is enough to prove that he is unworthy of our support in any way.

  I never said to go support him. But some of the claims are simply not correct and its a waist to concentrate fighting him and some others in the right (or phony "right"). It all comes down to 1 fear. What will the goyim (or State) think? Almost all Jews have this to a certain degree (more or less). Even almost everyone here as well. Ron is the only guy I can think of that perhaps would not have this at all. Just perhaps.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

What I continue to be fascinated about the JTF message is that there is a complete lack of message other than all Israeli politicians are evil. OK, that is a nice message but THEN WHAT? Ok so anyone who votes in the Israeli election must be evil because they are voting for evil people, so that is the logic here. So living in Israel is wrong because there is no alternative other than electing fake rightists who are giving away the land. So the entire aliyah experience is evil because it is supporting the evil Israeli politicians who are selling out the state. Every single politician who rises upon a message of apparent right wing politics in Israel is a fake and a phony, according to our organizations mantra, because they are dealing with a system which requires coalitions. There is no alternative to this, this is politics, and short of a civil war this will not change.

So what is it that you are trying to accomplish... I have never seen a cohesive plan for this although I have brought this up so many times. The plan to cause Jews to sit on their hands and wring them in desperation because there is no politician who speaks for us only works for our enemies. I see this entire 'anti-Bennet' campaign falling right into the phony rights hands, causing their parties to be distanced from the undesirable extremism of the hard-core Kahanists. The real right wing is pretty much aware of the facts according to comments I have read on various Israeli news sites.

I would appreciate a real answer to these real questions... Because it is getting very difficult to see a future for Israel with the outlook I get from some members here at JTF.

Nobody's forcing you to be at JTF Muman. If you don't like our message maybe it's just not for you. We aren't going to put a turd on a stick and pretend that it's a kosher hot dog. The whole entire reason why Chaim/Hayamin is different from all of the phony alternatives in Israel is because they tell the whole truth and nothing but and do not cling to the vain hope that some of the mainstream politicians are going to turn from their wicked ways and become our allies. There is a difference between wishful thinking and taking action to put our dreams into reality.

We are trying to build Hayamin into a mass movement. If Hayamin is a mass movement (and Chaim is allowed to make aliyah), then we will have real alternatives, not these rich playboys that say "G-d this, Hashem that" and then turn around and behave exactly like all of the other filthy establishment secular people of the world. Until then I'm not going to put scales on my eyes and pretend that the current crop of losers is an acceptable stand-in for Chaim.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

  I never said to go support him. But some of the claims are simply not correct and its a waist to concentrate fighting him and some others in the right (or phony "right"). It all comes down to 1 fear. What will the goyim (or State) think? Almost all Jews have this to a certain degree (more or less). Even almost everyone here as well. Ron is the only guy I can think of that perhaps would not have this at all. Just perhaps.

The phony right is not just some barking junkyard dog we can ignore. The phony right is what has done 98% of the damage to the state of Israel that has taken place over the last 40 years. Who surrendered the Sinai, Golda Meir or Menachem Begin? Who signed on to Oslo if not Shas and Agudah? Who surrendered Chevron, Shimon Peres or Lewinsky? Who brought us "disengagement"? Who is refusing to stop Iran's nuclear Shoah program as we speak?

Who are the people viciously slandering Chaim? Who are the people working to prevent him from making aliyah?

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

KWRBT,

You must be whacked to say this. I read the news every day. I post quite a lot of information from a variety of sites. I have not seen any mention where he says that a soldier should disobey orders. I originally posted when he said that he would ask to be excused and would have a problem of conscience obeying such orders. Then I saw the accusations that he said to disobey orders, which was untrue. What he said is plain to see, and only those who twist words can say he said anything contrary.

Your obvious attack on me

Jeez dude you are really defensive!  Chill out with these so called "attacks". Its nothing like that.  I just find it rather irritating that everything I, chaim, CF, tag mechir, and so on have all said up to this point about bennett you assume is false or a lie.  Sure its good when people cite information, but we are all just commenting on what's been in the news and reeacting to that.  Do you really think that ALL of us have some mysterious agenda to spread untrue cr.ap about bennett here?!

only makes what you say suspect. 

only because you choose not to believe it!

My basic reaction is, why don't you try google first before stating to the forum you're in complete disbelief of what we're saying with no logical reason whatsoever except your misplaced and confused belief in so+called "unity" and the appeal of bennetts persona ?  Those don't pass muster as rational reasons.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Agreed, KWRBT.

Muman--Bennett is a pretty, fresh face with a skullcap that rehashes all the same false promises that Lewinsky, Lieberman, Sharansky, etc. have made over the better part of two decades. That's it. Period. I posted a link to a great opinion piece that gave specific examples of how he talks out of both sides of his mouth (not an extremist-right opinion piece either) in his campaigning and your response to me was "I don't think it's ethical for you to change the words in your quote". Really? I posted a splendid article about Bennett's views and that was your grand comeback?

At various times on this forum, you have supported, defended, or minimized the actions of Lewinsky, Shas/Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, and the fake Kahanists (whose names do not need to be mentioned). In particular I vividly remember that you once wrote "Bibi is a good Jew, not as tough as we are, but a good Jew." I guess you think JTF has unfairly misunderstood them all. I guess there is no reason for Chaim to be in Israel since the existing "right" that we have basically consists of good people that just occasionally make mistakes.

[nessuno]

What I continue to be fascinated about the JTF message is that there is a complete lack of message other than all Israeli politicians are evil. OK, that is a nice message but THEN WHAT? Ok so anyone who votes in the Israeli election must be evil because they are voting for evil people, so that is the logic here. So living in Israel is wrong because there is no alternative other than electing fake rightists who are giving away the land. So the entire aliyah experience is evil because it is supporting the evil Israeli politicians who are selling out the state. Every single politician who rises upon a message of apparent right wing politics in Israel is a fake and a phony, according to our organizations mantra, because they are dealing with a system which requires coalitions. There is no alternative to this, this is politics, and short of a civil war this will not change.

So what is it that you are trying to accomplish... I have never seen a cohesive plan for this although I have brought this up so many times. The plan to cause Jews to sit on their hands and wring them in desperation because there is no politician who speaks for us only works for our enemies. I see this entire 'anti-Bennet' campaign falling right into the phony rights hands, causing their parties to be distanced from the undesirable extremism of the hard-core Kahanists. The real right wing is pretty much aware of the facts according to comments I have read on various Israeli news sites.

I would appreciate a real answer to these real questions... Because it is getting very difficult to see a future for Israel with the outlook I get from some members here at JTF.

You were doing better when you were picking on the Vatican.   

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

You were doing better when you were picking on the Vatican.   

Me???

[muman613]

I sincerely believe that Chaim would be great for Israeli politics. This is why I continue supporting JTF and I tell others about this great organization. I do get a bit disconcerted at times because it seems like, as I said, there doesn't seem to be a cohesive plan to move forward. I would like to know if there is any effort to change whatever law or force it is which prevents him from making Aliyah. I read the documentation he posted and it was not clear exactly what the issue was, why he was denied entry. If he could make Aliyah I would be very happy, and I would have more hope that change would come.

I believe that we need to be able to have hope in order to continue to fight for what is right. I have seen that some JTF members want to just give up on some of the fights, to which I say we should never give up. But I too believe that we cannot simply rely on miracles, we must take action to achieve the goals which we want to achieve. What is needed is some very cool-headed and clear planning for making our goals come true. Indeed I believe that money is tight, and it is difficult to mount a campaign with low funds. But I do believe that if some planning was done, and intelligent managers and planners are brought into the project, that we could come up with a more cohesive plan and the ability to influence public opinion. Do I have all the answers? Of course not but I only want to be able to contribute what I can to a winning strategy.

I am sorry if I seem defensive. But I do spend a lot of hours reading news and keeping up with the events in Israel. To imply what you implied seemed upsetting to me.

[Yerusha]

Sour grapes, outright inanity or sage wisdom, or a bit of all 3 from Sackett in his latest newsletter?!






5 Myths About the Upcoming Elections

By Shmuel Sackett

Myth #1) Likud is losing seats to Bayit HaYehudi – Not true!
What is happening is simple. The ridiculous marriage of Likud to Leiberman ("Yisrael Beitenu") has caused hundreds of thousands of voters to run away but not because of Likud! The voters will not be voting for the Likud-Lieberman ticket because of LIEBERMAN!!! The voters don't trust him, respect him or even like him. He runs his party like a one-man mafia and does not accept criticism gently. He is about to receive a very serious criminal indictment and his political life is terminally ill. The problem with his illness is that he is pulling Likud down with him. All polls show that if Lieberman would be running by himself, as he did the last several elections, his 15 seats would dwindle to 3-5. In short, he is following the Kadima model where success turns into total failure in just one Knesset term.

What has saved Lieberman is the deal he cut with Bibi. In the words of a major Likud minister, who asked that we not mention his name, Lieberman's deal with Bibi is like winning the Power Ball lottery without even buying a ticket! He brings nothing to the table – on the contrary! He is dragging Likud into the mud and into his political collapse.

Today, Likud/Lieberman have 42 seats but polls show them dropping to 32 – a loss of 10.
Today, Bayit HaYehudi/Tekuma have 5 seats but polls show them growing to 15 – a gain of 10.
These 10 seats which Likud/Lieberman is losing are coming 100% from the Lieberman side. About a month ago, the members of Likud selected a very right-wing Knesset list which included Feiglin, Danon, Hotoveli, Levine and Elkin in the top 15. This was an exciting list which experts knew would attract the average voter. Everyone knows that Israelis have been steadily moving to the right and this list would be the "dream team" that Likud was hoping for. The media was talking about at least 10 new seats for Likud (today Likud has just 27) and the energy level was high.

Those exact 10 seats, however, are NOT going to Likud. While the voters are happy with Feiglin, Danon etc.. they are extremely bitter and upset about Lieberman. Those 10 right wing, Jewish-oriented Knesset seats needed a home and they certainly weren't going to Lapid, Yechimovich, Livni or even Shas. The natural place for them was therefore Bayit HaYehudi led by Naftali Bennett. Simply put, he is in the right place at the right time and should send a nice "thank you" card to Lieberman!

Myth #2) Moshe Feiglin does not like Naftali Bennett and has been attacking him in the media – Not true! Moshe has said, many times, that Bennett has restored respect to the "knitted kippa" sector in Israel. For the last 20 years, this sector has been virtually ignored. The politicians leading this sector have been good little students sitting and behaving quietly. Although they protested the Gush Katif expulsion, they walked away without more than a peep. Their leaders have sat in various governments and have accomplished virtually nothing. Although this sector leads Israel in its percentage of combat soldiers, teachers and pioneers of the land, they have been complete zeroes politically. Naftali Bennett has changed all that and has revived this sleeping giant. He has infused the knitted kippot with pride and enthusiasm and has convinced them of their political strength.

The problem that Moshe Feiglin has with Naftali Bennett is not with him personally. It is with Bennett's tactic and strategy. Feiglin has written, lectured and lives his life according to the principle that the knitted kippot's strength come from NOT being a separate sector! Just like these young fighters enter the regular IDF and live in mixed communities with their secular brothers, the same must be done politically. Unlike the Haredim whose philosophy is separation, the religious Zionists pride themselves on living together – as one people and one nation – so why separate yourselves when it comes to politics???

12 years ago, when Moshe entered politics, he chose Likud as his vehicle for one simple reason: That is where Am Yisrael is!!! Although Moshe wears a knitted kippa, lives in a "settlement" and looks like your basic "Dati Leumi" (religious Zionist) guy, he refuses to back himself into that corner. This ideology has cost Moshe dearly – with 12 years of political scars to prove it – but he wouldn't change it for anything. Leading the Nation of Israel, which is Moshe's dream, can only come from a non-sectorial party. It would have been much easier for Moshe to form his own party, or resurrect the Mafdal – which is what Bennett has done – but Feiglin believes that doing that is the quick road to nowhere.

There are also several differences of opinion between Moshe Feiglin and Naftali Bennett on the ideological level and these are important to highlight. Bennett has stated, several times, how he wants to see Gaza become "the Singapore of the Middle East for the Palestinians". Moshe differs with that statement in two ways: First of all; there's no such thing as "the Palestinians" – never was, never will be. Second of all; Moshe's dream is to return Jewish life to the Gaza strip by bringing all the Jewish towns back – bigger and better than ever! Another difference between them is the fact that Bennett is calling for Israel to immediately annex "Area C" in Judea and Samaria – and to give the Arabs who live there full voting rights in Knesset elections! Moshe, on the other hand, is calling for Israel to immediately annex the ENTIRE Judea and Samaria – with no voting rights at all for Arabs in national elections. Moshe has stated that the only way to win this war is to immediately show – by strong and proud actions - that the entire land of Israel belongs to the Jewish people. Thinking that we can annex "Area C" now and deal with "Areas A and B" later is submitting to weakness and to the argument that the land is truly not ours.

Finally, the fiasco that happened with Bennett supporting refusal of orders when evacuating Jews from their homes, only to reverse it a few hours later demonstrates how he and his party puts the State above everything else. This is not the way a true Jewish leader acts. While Moshe understands the importance of the State – and is willing to become a loyal servant to her laws and rules – the ultimate authority is our Father in Heaven.

Therefore, in summary of this myth, all that has been said about Naftali Bennett, is strictly on the strategic, tactical and ideological level. Many of his actions have advantages, but eventually they will lead to frustration and despair.

Myth #3) Moshe Feiglin does not want Naftali Bennett in a Likud coalition – Not true!
Actually, just the opposite is true! Even with the differences stated above, Moshe would love Bennett as part of the ruling coalition. He would also love that coalition to include Baruch Marzel, Rabbi Amsalem and anyone – religious or not – who connects to Israel as a strong and proud Jewish State. From the day that Moshe and I started Manhigut Yehudit we stated – loud and clear – that the ultimate goal for Israel is to have one umbrella party called "Jewish Israel" as the ruling coalition. That party would be made up of many smaller parties with the common denominator being leadership of the state according to Jewish values and concepts. Obviously, there would be many differences of opinion between these groups, but for the sake of the nation – these differences would be put aside. The focus would be on what unites these groups and not what divides them!

While we have our differences with Bennett's strategy we applaud his vision for Israel to be independent, strong, proud and focused on its Jewish identity. This is an amazing goal and one that must be advanced in any way possible. This is why we wish the Bayit HaYehudi party much success in the upcoming elections. We hope they will take away votes from those parties that do not share this vision and we would love to see them in a Likud-led coalition. We wish them success so that our good friends Hillel Horowitz (from Hebron) and Jeremy Gimpel – both of whom who were recently honored at Manhigut Yehudit dinners – will enter the Knesset and become rising stars. Furthermore, we wish success to Michael Ben-Ari, Aryeh Eldad, Baruch Marzel and Aryeh King of the "Otzma LeYisrael" party who are all great fighters for the land of Israel as well as to Chaim Amsalem who is trying to break through barriers in his battle against Shas. These men all identify with Israel as a strong and proud Jewish state and we welcome them in a Likud-led coalition.

Myth #4) Bayit HaYehudi will become a force in Israeli politics for years to come – This is an opinion, so saying "True" or "False" will be silly but allow me to explain why I believe it is false.
History has shown, time and again, that sectorial parties rise and fall quickly. In recent years we have seen several examples of this trend: In 2003 Shinui received 15 seats yet it was ZERO by the next elections. In 2006 the Pensioners received 7 seats, which again fell to ZERO by the next elections. In 2009 Kadima received 28 seats but polls are showing that they will not pass the minimum in these current elections. The result will therefore be ZERO. In 2009 Lieberman's party received 15 seats and if not for the life-line extended to him by Bibi, they would be down to 3-5. This clearly shows that parties that are either break-aways (such as Kadima, which broke from Likud) or sectorial parties (Shinui – ultra left, Pensioners – senior citizens and Lieberman – Russians) are here today and gone tomorrow.

The only exception to this rule has been Shas, which is definitely a sectorial party, but always hovers around the same amount. They have seen peaks in their success but then they tend to drop back down. In 1992 they received 6 Knesset seats and then it started to rise: 1996 – 10 and by 1999 they were up to 17. Since then, 2003 – 11, 2006 – 12 and 2009 – 11. Polls show them in these elections at 10-12.

The same has happened – and will continue to happen – with the Bayit HaYehudi. They will definitely rise in these elections (for the reasons stated above) but then they will crash down. In the last 35 years the Mafdal/Bayit HaYehudi has gone from 12 seats in 1977 to 4 seats in 1984 and up to 9 seats in 2006. Therefore, even though they will rise to an all-time high of about 15-17 in these current elections, they will drop immediately afterwards. The reason for their inevitable collapse is because – long term – they do not offer answers to what Israelis are looking for. Although they are trying to build themselves as a wide-ranging Jewish party, the Israeli voter will not buy it over an extended period of time and the Bayit HaYehudi will slip back into its knitted kippa shell. This will be very unfortunate because this party has many capable people who will be great representatives of the Jewish people for years to come. Unfortunately, their political careers will come to an abrupt end as this party begins its decline.

The only solution – and we have said this over and again – is to build our strength inside Likud. Although this party has also seen ups and downs, it is not going anywhere. As a matter of fact, if people like Naftali Bennett would join Likud, instead of a sectorial party, the country would be empowered with serious, young, idealistic leaders for years to come.

Myth #5) Moshe Feiglin is definitely going to be an MK so his supporters should vote for Bayit HaYehudi in order to give them more seats – Not true!
Bibi Netanyahu has stated many times that he will not accept Bayit HaYehudi as a partner in his coalition. As stated earlier in this article, we are against that position of Bibi and feel that Bennett and his fellow MK's should be inside a coalition led by Likud. The problem, however, is that Bibi will not ask us what we think when he goes to form a government. He will set the rules and will build his coalition as he sees fit. B'ezrat Hashem, in the near future, when Moshe Feiglin is the leader of Likud, parties like Bayit HaYehudi will not have a problem entering a Likud government but we will need to wait a few more years for that to happen.

In the meantime, Bibi will do whatever he can to keep Bennett out. This means that Bennett's 15 or even 20 Knesset seats are powerless! Simply put; they will accomplish nothing. They will sit in the opposition – and may even lead the opposition – but will be out of the game. The only MK's capable of putting up a fight against a Palestinian state will be the ones inside Likud and the coalition. The more seats Likud gets, the stronger that opposition will be. As reported many times in the media, Likud voters elected a very right wing, hawkish list. Our goal must be to get as many of these people elected as possible. If Likud/Lieberman ends up with only 30 MK's, Bibi will need to reach out to both Yair Lapid and Shelly Yechimovich to form his government. Is that what you want??? On the other hand, if Likud/Lieberman end up with 40 Mk's then these leftist parties will be able to watch Likud lead the country from their television sets! It is clear then, that we must do whatever we can to strengthen the Likud ticket and bring them as many MK's as possible, far and above from just getting Moshe Feiglin elected.

Conclusion: I am sorry for writing such a long article but these myths needed to be cleared up. I urge you to study these words carefully and know the real facts. Feel free to send me your comments and/or questions. We need to know the truth.
 

Shmuel Sackett

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