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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #100 on: January 01, 2013, 02:10:20 PM »
Nafraudi is worse than Lewinsky and Holemert because he pretends to be religious.

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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #101 on: January 01, 2013, 02:14:28 PM »
Nafraudi is worse than Lewinsky and Holemert because he pretends to be religious.

And you know this how? Who are you to say who is religious or not? Jewish belief is not a right-wing left-wing thing... It is faith in Hashem and keeping the commandments....

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #102 on: January 01, 2013, 02:14:53 PM »
Within a day Netenyahu scared the living crap out of Bennett, (behind the scene threats)  and Bennett changed his tune.  As expected, he got right in line with Netenyahu.

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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #103 on: January 01, 2013, 02:15:58 PM »
Within a day Netenyahu scared the living crap out of Bennett, (behind the scene threats)  and Bennett changed his tune.  As expected, he got right in line with Netenyahu.

What are you talking about? What tune did he change?
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #104 on: January 01, 2013, 02:27:33 PM »
What are you talking about? What tune did he change?

Is that how you usually ask someone a question? 

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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #105 on: January 01, 2013, 02:35:04 PM »
Is that how you usually ask someone a question?

I ask the question because I have not seen anywhere where he changed his tune. Maybe you could point out where you heard or read this so we can make a decision based on facts. I have posted several times what he has said, and his response concerning when he was accused of saying that he said IDF officers should disobey orders (which he never said). I would really like to see where he ever backed down from what he said. He said several days after exactly what he was saying before, that he would have a real problem obeying such orders to the point of asking that he be excused, and if not he would consider going to prison for disobeying. But he did not say he suggests this for other officers. I suspect you would have expected him to say that everyone should disobey orders, but I would never expect a politician in todays Israel to say such a thing. It would be political suicide.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #106 on: January 01, 2013, 02:59:03 PM »
Within a day Netenyahu scared the living crap out of Bennett, (behind the scene threats)  and Bennett changed his tune.  As expected, he got right in line with Netenyahu.
I don't agree with you actually. I think Nafraudi was always a fake completely independent of Lewinsky. I don't doubt that Lewinsky and Likud are sleazy enough to try to pressure their opposition but it's not like he just gave into a little strongarming. Nafraudi is out for only one person, Nafraudi.

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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #107 on: January 02, 2013, 12:55:46 AM »
This is the exact same argument people made with regards to Olmert and Netanyahu.     People said, well, Bibi isn't perfect and isn't a Kahanist but he's better than Olmert!     And yet, he has policy that is no different from Olmert.   In what was is he better?   Because he gives power to Likud party hacks instead of Kadima party hacks?   They have the same exact agenda re the arab enemy.   Same exact corrupt, bankrupt, suicidal, confused national vision.

So now along comes another clone, but this one wears a kipa and leads the Mafdal party.   He has he same 2-state vision and he will not support the settlers and he will not oppose the establishment.    And now I'm told, well, he's not perfect but he's better than Netanyahu.   How so?    And how many times for this pattern to repeat itself before people start realizing that these hacks are not going to change anything unless they have a Kahanist outlook and completely reject the paradigm of current Israeli leadership.

So is your answer to keep electing Nethanyahu or Livni?  If Benett disappoints go to the next candidate who shows promise.  I can't guarantee anyone.
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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #108 on: January 02, 2013, 02:02:39 AM »
So is your answer to keep electing Nethanyahu or Livni?  If Benett disappoints go to the next candidate who shows promise.  I can't guarantee anyone.

That's the whole point.  Bennett doesn't "show promise."  Neither did Bibi.  It's illogical to expect something positive out of someone with an Oslo agenda.  Or simply self delusion.

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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #109 on: January 02, 2013, 02:16:54 AM »
All of these chazirs need to be sent back to the filthy pen they came from.

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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #110 on: January 02, 2013, 10:43:46 AM »
That's the whole point.  Bennett doesn't "show promise."  Neither did Bibi.  It's illogical to expect something positive out of someone with an Oslo agenda.  Or simply self delusion.

 I heard him say he is against Oslo.
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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #111 on: January 02, 2013, 10:58:02 AM »
And of course there are some genuinely religious Jews whose way would be terrible for Israel if they got it. Not saying this Nafraudi guy is one of them, though.

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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #112 on: January 06, 2013, 03:08:07 PM »
From Steven Plaut:


A demonstration of the remarkable success of Naftali Bennett and
his party is apparent in the vicious attack ads and dirty tricks being
used by Netanyahu and the Likud against them.  The Likud has joined
forces with the radical Left in trying to demonize Bennett and his
team, because they all find Bennett's success so alarming.

   Nevertheless, the tactic of the Likud over the past week in trying
to paint Bennett as "anti-women" is the finest illustration of the
lack of integrity and decency in the Likud and the extent to which it
feels threatened by Bennett's growing juggernaut.

    Last week the Likud, probably under direct orders by Bibi, placed
attack ads in all the Israeli media accusing Bennett of having "woman
haters" on his party slate.  Likud statements accused Bennett of
hostility to women.  The accusations were entirely based on the fact
that one member of the Bennett (Jewish Home Party) slate, Rabbi Eli
Ben Dahan who is number four on the list of candidates,  had called
for the elimination of the Knesset Committee on the Status of Women.
What further proof is required?, scream the Likud hacks.

     Well, first of all, eliminating the Knesset Committee on the
status of women would not be such a bad idea.  Its main activities in
the past have been in pressing for dumbing down standards, promoting
the implementation of gender quotas, "affirmative action" and nature
double standards, gender preferences, and other silly ideas that harm
women and create the general suspicion that any woman who is
successful must have made it up the slippery pole because of such
discrimination.  Ask why many black families in the US refuse to send
their children to a black dentist and you will understand the point.

      But that is just MY reason for thinking the committee should be
shut down.  So what is Rabbi Ben Dahan's reason and what did he really
say?  Well, it turns out, and you would know this only if you read
Makor Rishon, that the actual quote by Rabbi Ben Dahan was to call for
the elimination of the Knesset Committee on Women because he wanted to
merge it together with the Knesset Committee on the Welfare of
Children, claiming that the merged committee would be far more
powerful and effective and influential!

   Yes, the guy who the Likud claims is the epitome of male chauvinism
in Bennett's slate simply called for making the efforts of the
Committee on Women MORE effective!!   The Likud showed its lack of
integrity and willingness to engage in sleaze and distortion in order
to make a few fleeting political points, and counted on no one ever
checking to see what Ben Dahan had REALLY said!  But that is what he
really said!

    The other interesting point being that Bennett has three times as
many women in the senior positions on his party slate than the Likud
has.

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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #113 on: January 06, 2013, 04:13:10 PM »
I heard him say he is against Oslo.

No what he says is that the arabs have to "calm down" and show they are ready for peace before we can give in to any of their demands.  He's not against it in principle just the manner in which it is carried out and the timeframe according to arab reciprocity.  Doesn't that sound familiar to you?  It should because that is what netanyahu has said since the 1990's.

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« Reply #114 on: January 06, 2013, 06:25:13 PM »
No what he says is that the arabs have to "calm down" and show they are ready for peace before we can give in to any of their demands.  He's not against it in principle just the manner in which it is carried out and the timeframe according to arab reciprocity.  Doesn't that sound familiar to you?  It should because that is what netanyahu has said since the 1990's.
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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #115 on: January 07, 2013, 01:10:15 AM »
I'm voting for Bennett's party. There are many American olim in it including those who have shows on Arutz 7.


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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #116 on: January 07, 2013, 01:38:06 AM »
I'm voting for Bennett's party. There are many American olim in it including those who have shows on Arutz 7.

You are thinking of Jeremy Gimpel, who has been doing shows on A7 for years...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #117 on: January 09, 2013, 05:40:21 AM »
Jerusalem Post article:"Bennett doesn't play by the rules"
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-EdContributors/Article.aspx?id=297956


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« Reply #118 on: January 15, 2013, 07:21:51 PM »
"White House very concerned about Naftali Bennett's strong showing"
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/164233

Just like the NWO sent CIA-trained Palestinain snipers, with Israeli collusion, to take out our BZK with 40 bullets just as he was starting to politically sprout in 2000, they could do the same to Bennett in Raanana, but more subtly, chas v'sholom!

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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #119 on: January 16, 2013, 10:57:55 PM »
Jeremy Gimpel: a reversion to the original species of hands-on helpful Jew?


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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #120 on: January 21, 2013, 08:02:54 PM »
It is remarkable that everyone, JTFers, Kahanists, the Kachniks, the Kahanachainiks, Likud, Feglinists, Meretz, Labour, Pipi, Ovadia Kessef, Livnat, Obama, Steinerman, Caroline Glick, Hotobelly, Tibi, Degel, Aguda, even the Haredim at the wall, all are baying for Bennett's blood!
http://www.jpost.com/Home/Article.aspx?id=300393


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« Reply #121 on: January 21, 2013, 08:33:02 PM »
It is remarkable that everyone, JTFers, Kahanists, the Kachniks, the Kahanachainiks, Likud, Feglinists, Meretz, Labour, Pipi, Ovadia Kessef, Livnat, Obama, Steinerman, Caroline Glick, Hotobelly, Tibi, Degel, Aguda, even the Haredim at the wall, all are baying for Bennett's blood!
http://www.jpost.com/Home/Article.aspx?id=300393



None of those groups or individuals accept the Mafdal's destructive agenda, so what do you expect?     "Professor Hershkovitz" was never a threat like Bennett might be.    So that is why no one cared about him before.

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Re: Naftali Bennett for PM?
« Reply #122 on: January 21, 2013, 08:34:48 PM »
"White House very concerned about Naftali Bennett's strong showing"
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/164233

Just like the NWO sent CIA-trained Palestinain snipers, with Israeli collusion, to take out our BZK with 40 bullets just as he was starting to politically sprout in 2000, they could do the same to Bennett in Raanana, but more subtly, chas v'sholom!



Only a clown would believe something like this.  If they were actually planning something like that, they wouldn't be talking about him publicly at all.    But this is lunacy.

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« Reply #123 on: January 21, 2013, 08:51:40 PM »
It's either that, or maybe Bennett really is a "Man of Destiny", and that this universal opposition is akin to the initial opposition of the Jewish People to their Redeemer Moshe Rabbeinu.

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« Reply #124 on: January 21, 2013, 08:55:49 PM »
Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right
Only a clown would believe something like this.  If they were actually planning something like that, they wouldn't be talking about him publicly at all.    But this is lunacy.


Well the Canadian "clown" Chamish is convinced that Bennett is as good as dead:



"NAFTALI BENNETT - Zicharon L'Brecha (R.I.P)
                                                                                   by Barry Chamish

    Netanyahu wins the Israeli election, a given. But according to the polls, second place is a draw between, supposedly Netanyahu's nemesis, the Labor Party, and his supposed ideological natural partner, Habayit Hayehudi or Jewish Home Party led by a newcomer from America, Naftali Bennett. As anyone who understands Netanyahu will suppose, as usual, he will make a coalition with Labor. And as anyone who understands how the system works will tell you, Naftali Bennett better hope he does. It's his best hope for survival.
    As Bennett rose from the wilderness a few months ago, a few of my readers had grave suspicions of him. Those who know my work will recognize their off-the-beaten-track concerns:   

What's your opinion of Bennett?
Is he a genuine right-winger with a veneer of honesty?
Will they take him out in New York next week like they took out Kahane?
Or is he yet another CFR-NWO-Shabbatean Raviv-lite operative sent to infiltrate the right?!

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This appearance on CNN from the first days of the latest 'cycle of violence' made many Israelis proud of Bennett's appearance here 'against' the Arabs. But what they did not know was that it was not someone supporting the Palestinian side but a representative of the CFR, explicitly spelled out on the screen, and that is when I understood that we were not going to be allowed to win this latest 'cycle of violence'. Bennett has no idea who he is talking to when this sr fellow talks about 'not in Israel's interests' .

     But let's not jump beyond the borders of Israel to get to know Bennett. Here is how sympathetic Israeli journalists are covering him:

Jewish Home Chairman Naftali Bennett commented Wednesday morning on reports
that the White House is deeply concerned about growing support for his
party, which represents very nationalist interests, and is worried about the
potential sway he may have in dealing with issues such as construction in
Judea and Samaria and negotiations with the Palestinian Authority.

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The U.S. is particularly concerned over the growing
strength of the proudly nationalist Habayit Hayehudi (The Jewish Home) in
the polls and over the fact that there is hardly talk about negotiations
with the Palestinian Authority as part of the election campaign.
The U.S. is concerned, according to Channel 10, that Bennett's strengthening
will cause Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, in turn, to strengthen the
Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria.
 
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     From a candidate in Bennett's party:

Polls show that if only those under the age of 35 would be able to vote, The Bayit Yehudi would be the largest party in the country and Naftali Bennett would be Prime Minister!
Something new really is beginning here - this is the first time I can remember that it is �cool� to be a proud Zionist.

     Even from outside Israel, Benett is getting some notice;

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/joseph-puder/the-naftali-bennett-phenomen

The rise of Naftali Bennett of the Jewish Home Party in the polls is,
however, a major news item...The London based The
Independent (January 2, 2013) pointed out that Bennett, who has never
held office before "has shaken up the campaign to such an extent that
Prime Minister Netanyahu has gone on the offensive against Bennett."

In a recent television interview, Bennett remarked that as a soldier
he would not obey orders to evacuate settlers from their homes.
Netanyahu pounced on this and Bennett qualified his initial
statement. But the extraordinary exposure he achieved only
strengthened his support. And, in an interview with the Associated
Press, Bennett stated, "My positions are very clear: I never hide the
fact that I categorically oppose a Palestinian state inside our
country..."

With a slate that includes many young newcomers, Bennett launched an
extraordinary campaign, which, according to a recent poll, propelled
the party to possibly gaining 15 seats, an incredible achievement.
The bulk of his supporters are under forty and many are nonobservant...
the prospect of 15 seats is nothing less than historical in scope for this truly
idealistic party dedicated to the love of the land of Israel, the
People of Israel, and the Torah of Israel.

      Politicians who are idealistic enough to love the land of Israel don't live long. When Bennett started mouthing off about being an IDF officer who would refuse to evict Jews from their homes, he was suddenly widely noticed. To some, that was treason talk. But to many others, that was what they thought and now they had a voice expressing their deepest patriotic feelings. And one of my readers informed me that either Bennett will change drastically once in power, or go on a hit list. Though a mixture of personalities, here is the hit list he compiled:

This list of assassinations/suspicious deaths involving Israel was written in 2004.
Are there any other names of note that you think that should be added to the list?
Jacob de Haan
Chaim Arlosoroff
Lord Moyne
Folke Bernadotte
Rudolf Kasztner
Ben Hecht
General David "Dudu" Elazar,
Michael Albin
Rabbi Meir Kahane
Binyamin Ze'ev Kahane
General Yekutiel "Kuti" Adam,
Gerald Bull
Major-General Shmuel "Gorodish" Gonen,
Major-General Nechemia Tamari
General Raful Eitan
Amiram Nir
Yedidiah Segal
David Frank
Noach Moses
Robert Maxwell
Ester Werderber
General Mordechai "Motti" Gur,
Jerusalem deputy-mayor Shmuel Meir
the 5 engineers responsible for the safety of IDF "Yasur" helicopters
Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin
Yoav Kuriel
Professor Aryeh Rosen Zvi
Ambassador to France Eliyahu ben Elissar
MK Benny Begin's son Yonatan
MK Rehavam "Gandhi" Ze'evi
Irv Rubin
Wayne Owens

 We conclude with a warning to Bennett. Currently, it would appear, you have no idea how thin is the ice you are standing on. You may deny you have anything in common with "radicals" like Meir Kahane or Rehavam Ze'evi. But you do.

http://samsonblinded.com/blog/hunting-season.htm

...Like a bear who has tasted human blood, Israeli police would start hunting the right.
Israeli services killed Meir and Binyamin Kahane, and Gandhi. They cooperated
with Arab militants to do the job,
and also with the mullahs in the Iran-Contras
affair, and with the Pakistani military. Bin Laden similarly accused Israel of
assassinating Azzam with the help of Arab agents. Facts tying Israelis to Sept.
11 could not be just dismissed. Kahane's assassin organized the WTC bombing in
1993. Guards, not Yigal Amir, assassinated Rabin; clear video was censored.
Rabin, his popularity dwindling, was purposefully killed in an extraordinary
attempt to accuse the right and reassert the power of the leftists, all the
while turning Rabin-the-scum into a martyr of peace. Baruch Goldstein, a lone
shooter with three magazines, could not have killed 29 people and wounded 150;
soldiers testified that they had to shoot at the crowd, and later recanted their
testimonies; a weapons cache was found in the mosque, but was never
investigated. They fabricated the case to accuse the right and ban Kach...

The standard question, �cui bono?� answers the question of who killed
Kahane. Arabs had no reason to kill him because Kahane was a scarecrow, scaring
the Israeli and Western public so that the right-wingers could be demonized.
Kahane was barred from the Knesset and posed no threat to Israeli Arabs. He did
pose a huge threat to the Israeli establishment...

 The murders of Meir Kahane, his son Binyamin, and JDL members are too much of a
coincidence. Add to these the framing of Baruch Goldstein, who supposedly killed
and wounded more Arabs in the Cave of the Patriarchs shooting than there were
bullets in his cartridge. Soldiers testified they had to shoot to stop a rioting
Arab mob�which was in line with Israeli intelligence, which expected pogroms
on that day in Hebron�but the soldiers were forced to retract their
testimonies. The Israeli government used the Goldstein hoax to ban Kahane�s
party...

The story doesn�t stop with the official Kahanists. An Israeli group of Oslo
promulgators had every reason to murder Rehavam Ze�evi, who firmly confronted Shimon
Peres. Israeli security had no problem asking PFLP to take credit for
Ze�evi�s murder... Shimon Peres brought Arafat back to Palestine as a puppet for a peace
show. Arafat sometimes protested that it was Israel who staged �terrorist attacks,� which
of course were counterproductive to the Palestinian cause, but he was dismissed
as a liar.

      To those who asked, yes, I think he's sincere, for now. But he has entered a political mafia Hell that is much bigger, stronger and more vicious than he or his followers want to understand. He changes or he dies.

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