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The Gaza War - Why Are The Rabbis Silent?
muman613:
I heard him say repeatedly that in a time of war even the good gentiles must be killed (See video @ 11:35). The example given was that during the plagues, the G-d fearing Egyptians were the ones who brought their livestock (horses) into the house, and thus there were some Egyptian horses alive when Pharoah wanted to send his armies after the Jews who were fleeing to the Yam Suf. It was said that even the good non-Jews should have been killed, and by doing so the Egyptians would have had no horses with which to pursue the Jews.
He also said several times that if a gentile was drowning (or required saving) that a Jew should not save him. I have heard this before but I don't remember where it comes from...
muman613:
Apparently this is Halacha from Rambam, as written in Avodah Kochavim:
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/912369/jewish/Chapter-Ten.htm
Halacha 1
We may not draw up a covenant with idolaters which will establish peace between them [and us] and yet allow them to worship idols, as [Deuteronomy 7:2] states: "Do not establish a covenant with them." Rather, they must renounce their [idol] worship or be slain. It is forbidden to have mercy upon them, as [Deuteronomy, ibid.] states: "Do not be gracious to them."
Accordingly, if we see an idolater being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him. It is, however, forbidden to cause one of them to sink or push him into a pit or the like, since he is not waging war against us.
To whom do the above apply? To gentiles. It is a mitzvah, however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people away from God.
So it is correct... He also did say that we must assume a non-Jew is not a Bnei Noach and thus assume that he is liable to the death penalty...
muman613:
I cannot find a reference to the idea that we should not assume a Bnei Noach is keeping the commandments, thus he is liable for death. Does anyone know where this idea comes from?
I think I need to listen to this talk again and takes notes...
Ephraim Ben Noach:
--- Quote from: Dan Ben Noah on December 05, 2012, 08:32:53 PM ---Great vid. Makes an outstanding argument for cleaning out Gaza once and for all.
--- End quote ---
I agree with him about Gaza, but by his philosophy... if Obama, became a enemy of Israel( which he is). Than the over 50 percent of Zionist in the U.S. should die, including you and I, how would they know that we follow the 7 laws?
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