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The Gaza War - Why Are The Rabbis Silent?

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muman613:
Very interesting indeed...

I have to admit he has said things which would be controversial if I typed them out (concerning non-Jews)... But I already knew most of this...

Still have 1h20m to go..

edu:
A side point brought up in the lecture, was the question if Rabbi Shimon is called Bar Yochai outside of the Zohar.
Yoma 26a, Megilla 19a, Midrash Tanaaim to Dvarim chapter 6 verse 9
seems to indicate that sometimes he is.
I am glad that the lecture brings up the point about the status of Gentiles who are presumed to not observe the 7 laws of Noah during the time of peace. I personally know of quite a significant number of Jews who have wrong ideas about the Torah position on this subject.
So far I have heard only about one half hour of the lecture, so I will probably (bli neder) wish to add more comments.

muman613:
Thus we must admit that Judaism is in a way supremacist.

I did not hear the Rabbi attempt to explain how non-Jews do any good in the world. I believe what he says but I have found that there is such a thing as Kiddush Hashem (Sanctifying Hashems name) when a Jew performs a mitzvah (although in effect it is just a good deed) for a non-Jew.

I also wonder what the Rabbi thinks about a person in the process of converting? Is he or she an enemy until they finish their conversion?

I agree on everything he says concerning dealing with an enemy. But I have questions and reservations about his view that all non-Jews are to be considered enemies...

muman613:
edu,

I found it somewhat humorous that he kept on saying 'Shimon Bar Yochai' even after explaining that he was really known as 'Shimon Ben Yochai'. I also find it interesting that his name is 'Bar-Chayim'.

Doesn't the word Bar translate as 'Son of' as in 'Bar Mitzvah' a son of mitzvah... So to does the word 'Ben' mean son, as in Moshiach Ben David. The other famous Bar I can think of is 'Bar Chochba' who Rabbi Akivah believed for a time to be Moshiach...

Tag-MehirTzedek:

--- Quote from: muman613 on December 05, 2012, 02:45:06 AM ---Thus we must admit that Judaism is in a way supremacist.

I did not hear the Rabbi attempt to explain how non-Jews do any good in the world. I believe what he says but I have found that there is such a thing as Kiddush Hashem (Sanctifying Hashems name) when a Jew performs a mitzvah (although in effect it is just a good deed) for a non-Jew.

I also wonder what the Rabbi thinks about a person in the process of converting? Is he or she an enemy until they finish their conversion?

I agree on everything he says concerning dealing with an enemy. But I have questions and reservations about his view that all non-Jews are to be considered enemies...

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 What ??? you definitely did not understand what he was saying. He clearly quoted the Rambam who said that when it is NOT a time of war a gentile is not to be harmed, as opposed to when it IS A TIME OF WAR.  Soo how in the world would you then take his statements and say to kill gentiles even those in the process of converting (or even if not). I don't get you.

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