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Offline Dan Ben Noah

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Jeremiah 16:19 O Lord, Who are my power and my strength and my refuge in the day of trouble, to You nations will come from the ends of the earth and say, "Only lies have our fathers handed down to us, emptiness in which there is nothing of any avail!

Zechariah 8:23 So said the Lord of Hosts: In those days, when ten men of all the languages of the nations shall take hold of the skirt of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you."

Offline Southern Noachide

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Re: Crash Course in Jewish History
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 10:55:01 PM »
Why does it only start with Abraham and Sarah?  What about the first 20 generations?
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Re: Crash Course in Jewish History
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 10:57:53 PM »
Quote from: Southern Noachide on May 22, 2013, 10:55:01 PM
Why does it only start with Abraham and Sarah?  What about the first 20 generations?

The Jewish faith was started by Abraham and Sarah, through their offspring Yitzak, who begat Jacob... These are the three patriarchs of Jewish faith..

These are the descendants of Shem, thus we are called Semitic...

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Offline Ephraim Ben Noach

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Re: Crash Course in Jewish History
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 10:58:43 PM »
Quote from: Southern Noachide on May 22, 2013, 10:55:01 PM
Why does it only start with Abraham and Sarah?  What about the first 20 generations?
There are Noachide teaching about Shem...
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Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the horn, and the people be not warned, and the sword do come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

Offline Southern Noachide

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Re: Crash Course in Jewish History
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 11:12:03 PM »
Quote from: muman613 on May 22, 2013, 10:57:53 PM
The Jewish faith was started by Abraham and Sarah, through their offspring Yitzak, who begat Jacob... These are the three patriarchs of Jewish faith..

These are the descendants of Shem, thus we are called Semitic...

The Jewish Nation is the only nation whose history is coterminous with **world** history.  The laws which we know as the Noachide Laws were originally given to 'Adam HaRi'shon.  They were modified (to allow the eating of meat) in the days of Noach and thus received their final form, so they are called the Noachide Laws.  Their final and definitive form was given at the Revelation at Sinai.

'Adam and Noach failed where 'Avraham succeeded, but they (and the others) are still part of the story.
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Re: Crash Course in Jewish History
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 11:17:31 PM »
Quote from: Southern Noachide on May 22, 2013, 11:12:03 PM
The Jewish Nation is the only nation whose history is coterminous with **world** history.  The laws which we know as the Noachide Laws were originally given to 'Adam HaRi'shon.  They were modified (to allow the eating of meat) in the days of Noach and thus received their final form, so they are called the Noachide Laws.  Their final and definitive form was given at the Revelation at Sinai.

'Adam and Noach failed where 'Avraham succeeded, but they (and the others) are still part of the story.
Do you not think any of the Noachide made it passed this time?
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Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the horn, and the people be not warned, and the sword do come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

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Re: Crash Course in Jewish History
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2013, 11:24:06 PM »
Quote from: אפרים בן נח on May 22, 2013, 11:17:31 PM
Do you not think any of the Noachide made it passed this time?

I assume you are referring to my remark about Adam and Noach "failing."  I didn't mean they failed to pass on the Noahide Laws (they most certainly did).  But both Adam and Noach could have been what Abraham became, but they did not succeed.  Adam sinned in Eden and Noach was righteous "in his days" (implying in a righteous generation he would not have been considered righteous).  It was Abraham to accomplished what Adam and Noah failed to do: to be the father of the Jewish People.  Third time's a charm, they say.
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Offline KalmanBenMenachem

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Re: Crash Course in Jewish History
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2013, 09:58:32 PM »
Rabbi Berel Wein has 2 excellent CD sets which I've listened to:

1.  5000 Years of Jewish History in 5 Hours

2.  Basic Books of Judaism

Both were excellent.  He has other courses as well.  I think they're available both on CD and as MP3's. 
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