The school shooting was a set up

[AsheDina]

I have no doubt it was done by leftist extremists who would wish to sacrifice innocent chidlren's blood in order to establish gun control.

Right now, I'm predicting David Douce recording an upcoming video blaming the school shootings on "zionists" 

He already has some of his morons blaming the Jewish people for what happened.

[NoMosqueHere]

Why did this horror take place in an all white, affluent part of Connecticut that voted overwhelmingly for the jew hater obama?  Think about it.

[muman613]

Why did this horror take place in an all white, affluent part of Connecticut that voted overwhelmingly for the jew hater obama?  Think about it.

What BS this is.... My mother lives 20 minutes from where this happened. She did not vote for obama... I think this kind of thinking is a little messed up...

Im inclined to agree with corriedeservedit, that these kinds of threads make JTF look like a mental ward...

[muman613]

I will admit that it has been a long term democratic policy of attempting to put controls on the sale and ownership of guns. This policy runs contrary to everything which this country stands for. A person is entitled to protect him or herself from those who want to do them harm. This is why the forefathers valued the personal possession of firearms. It is also essential to the ability to protect the country from foreign attacks (thus the language of the Bill of Rights which mentions the forming of militias). I believe any government which attempts to remove the right of a citizen to protect his family using any means necessary is a wicked government.

[The One and Only Mo]

I'm sorry with all due respect this thread makes me sick.
Are the liberals out to take away gun rights? Yes. But a set up no.
If anything it proves how sick an opportunistic they are , to jump on a tragic case like this and use it for THEIR agenda.

But coming on this forum and reading a thread like this is a real turn off and makes jtf look like a mental asylum.

I concur with the sentiment that the title of the thread is scary. When I questioned the legitimacy of the 9/11 story, people here ripped me a new one. I can only hope that the story the media gives us regarding this shooting is a truthful as the the story that the media gave us regarding 9/11.

[syyuge]

Fashion Island shooting: Gunman fires shots outside California mall:

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/12/16/fashion-island-shooting-gunman-fires-shots-outside-california-mall

Now even the toy guns may be under the fear of being banned.

[Rubystars]

Interesting how all this is happening so close together. Syggue I think you may be on to something there. A lot of parents won't let their kids even have toy guns now either because they think it teaches them "violence". So I can see the government stepping in to say that parents are not ALLOWED to give their kids toy guns.

[syyuge]

The socialism promotes the idea that only the KGB, state police and the people's red army shall have the weapons and otherwise even the children can not have the toy guns. The increasing shooting incidents are immensely unfortunate, but it will be a catastrophe if such incidents are used as tools for a total communist takeover.

[Baltimore]

The title of this thread is pretty embarrassing actually.  A conspiracy? Like a truther/9-11 conspiracy.  Come on. The liberals are taking FULL advantage of this situation and trying to take our guns away, BUT this was not a set up. There is a big difference between using a situation to promote an evil cause and creating a situation to promote an evil cause. The guy was insane and he did a horrible thing. Very simple explanation to a terrible tragedy that is now being exploited by gun grabbers.

[Rubystars]

The title of this thread is pretty embarrassing actually.  A conspiracy? Like a truther/9-11 conspiracy.  Come on. The liberals are taking FULL advantage of this situation and trying to take our guns away, BUT this was not a set up. There is a big difference between using a situation to promote an evil cause and creating a situation to promote an evil cause. The guy was insane and he did a horrible thing. Very simple explanation to a terrible tragedy that is now being exploited by gun grabbers.

We can agree on one thing and that's that regardless of what caused this tragedy, the media is going to jump on it and use it to advance left wing causes.

[syyuge]

We can agree on one thing and that's that regardless of what caused this tragedy, the media is going to jump on it and use it to advance left wing causes.

Yes!

[Rubystars]

Although I don't think I'd go so far as saying this massacre was a set-up, I do agree that this administration is evil enough to do such a thing.  After all, they were willing to lie about Benghazi for political gain even when Americans were murdered.  By the way, if this thread makes anyone take JTF less seriously, you should just visit the bastions of sanity that are my threads and you'll realize that JTF is the place to be.

I can't prove it was a setup, but I believe it and some of the other shootings were. I know I will catch some flak for this viewpoint, but I think it's good to have some controversial threads on the forum anyway. Obviously nobody else is obligated to agree with me just because I post something. I've seen a mix of responses and gotten some messages from people who say they agree with me on this. I think it's good we can see different viewpoints being expressed in this thread because it shows a healthy forum with people saying what's on their mind. If anything it should cause people who find the thread provocative to want to participate.

We know that the federal government under Bush and Obama was arming Mexican criminals through Fast and Furious and its predecessor program. If I had said that I suspected that was going on before it was revealed, people might have said the same types of things to me, doubting, even saying I was making the forum look like an asylum, etc. but it was 100% true. I wish I had, at the time, had the foresight to infer that was going on. Maybe in time these kinds of things will come to light too.

I just flat out do not trust the government, especially at the federal level.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

A setup?  Doesn't seem to be any evidence of that.

[Dr. Dan]

This was not a set up.  There are two tragedies at play.  Innocent people and children were killed.  The other tragedy is that American zombies are pushing for more gun control because of this.

Making guns illegal will empower criminals and cause crime to sky rocket.

[Rubystars]

Making guns illegal will empower criminals and cause crime to sky rocket.

This is very true. It's also giving in to what the United Nations wants.

[Sveta]

I must disagree that this was a set up.

Mainly, society in general is become desensitized by violence. What used to me lonely depressed suicidal maniacs who would kill themselves how now become a quest to take others with them and become famous. They do become instant celebrities, hated celebrities but not some lonely suicidal loner. They die with others, what they didn't have in life, they feel they get in death.

These are sick, deranged and evil people. And the more the media shows it, the more some psycho kid right now in America is looking at the TV thinking that they are going to do that next.

So, I do not believe this was set up by anti-gun people. My greatest reason, however, is because I loath the conspiracy theorists. The same ones who say 9/11 was an inside job, the ones who say Israel did 9/11 along with Bush. The ones who say the Zionists control all the TV stations. How Bin Laden died of cancer a long time ago,  The conspiracy theories that I hate. When I look at people saying those conspiracy theories, I think about how stupid or brainwashed they are. Many of those jerks are the severely low IQ morons from Pakistan or other countries who come up with those ridiculous theories, but also in the US we have plenty of those "Dale Gribble" types.

 I would not want to be like them but adding to more conspiracy theories.

What happened now is that a sick, deranged man saw the news of the Batman shooter, the Virginia Tech shootings, the Columbine shootings and he wanted to make a name for himself.

[Secularbeliever]

I'm sorry with all due respect this thread makes me sick.
Are the liberals out to take away gun rights? Yes. But a set up no.
If anything it proves how sick an opportunistic they are , to jump on a tragic case like this and use it for THEIR agenda.

But coming on this forum and reading a thread like this is a real turn off and makes jtf look like a mental asylum.

I agree that it is more likely opportunism than some kind of repeat of the Reichstag fire.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

I don't know if this particular shooting was a setup, but something about the reporting and everything seem to be really fake and disconnected. It seemed more like a reality show. Some of these incidents could have been easily set up by the government like the loan shooter shooting at the White House, really? Our government has given fully automatic weapons to the drug cartels, our government has let our own people die in Benghazi! You have no idea what they will do!

[Rubystars]

I don't know if this particular shooting was a setup, but something about the reporting and everything seem to be really fake and disconnected. It seemed more like a reality show. Some of these incidents could have been easily set up by the government like the loan shooter shooting at the White House, really? Our government has given fully automatic weapons to the drug cartels, our government has let our own people die in Benghazi! You have no idea what they will do!

Good points Ephraim. We do have proven examples of the federal government arming bad guys and aiding bad guys. I would like to think that we could trust them to look out for us, to be on our side, but we can't. It's naive to think that the US government is something to be trusted. Obama just declared that he's going to use all the power of his office to fix this problem. A problem that was created by left wing policies to begin with (at best) through letting crazies out into the streets and drugging them up and the left wing creating a very immoral society. And perhaps there was a literal setup too. It can't be proven but I suspect it very much.

[AsheDina]

What BS this is.... My mother lives 20 minutes from where this happened. She did not vote for obama... I think this kind of thinking is a little messed up...

Im inclined to agree with corriedeservedit, that these kinds of threads make JTF look like a mental ward...

Muman, Commies set things up to take from people.
Look at BHO for one eg

[syyuge]

This is not a set up, but if the guns get controlled then this is the fire of reichstag.

[HiWarp]

Stop falling for the progressive BS. They don't care about your safety, only furthering their agenda. Want proof? Okay.

Year Clinton assault weapon ban went into affect: 1994
Year of Columbine mass shooting: 1999

And yet, over the past dew days, you've heard nothing but a call to ban assault weapons. So, the conclusion is either that they are stupid and don't realize that a ban would not prevent something like this or they have an agenda and see this as a perfect opportunity to further it. I'll let you all decide which it is.

[Rubystars]

Stop falling for the progressive BS. They don't care about your safety, only furthering their agenda. Want proof? Okay.

Year Clinton assault weapon ban went into affect: 1994
Year of Columbine mass shooting: 1999

And yet, over the past dew days, you've heard nothing but a call to ban assault weapons. So, the conclusion is either that they are stupid and don't realize that a ban would not prevent something like this or they have an agenda and see this as a perfect opportunity to further it. I'll let you all decide which it is.

Excellent post

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

I don't know if this particular shooting was a setup, but something about the reporting and everything seem to be really fake and disconnected. It seemed more like a reality show. Some of these incidents could have been easily set up by the government like the loan shooter shooting at the White House, really? Our government has given fully automatic weapons to the drug cartels, our government has let our own people die in Benghazi! You have no idea what they will do!

These people really lost their chiildren and family members. There's nothing fake or disconnected about that.  None of them are faking.  All the rest is just noise.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Good points Ephraim. We do have proven examples of the federal government arming bad guys and aiding bad guys. I would like to think that we could trust them to look out for us, to be on our side, but we can't. It's naive to think that the US government is something to be trusted. Obama just declared that he's going to use all the power of his office to fix this problem. A problem that was created by left wing policies to begin with (at best) through letting crazies out into the streets and drugging them up and the left wing creating a very immoral society. And perhaps there was a literal setup too. It can't be proven but I suspect it very much.

Wouldn't it require at least a little bit of evidence in order to suspect something?  If there is no evidence of something but you suspect it anyway, isn't that just a reflection of your own biases?

Even the "circumstantial" stuff you cite is flimsy at best (and that is being generous) but there certainly isn't any real evidence at this point.