Author Topic: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews? (Read 17137 times)

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #25 on:** January 02, 2008, 03:13:29 PM »

Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on January 02, 2008, 03:03:43 PM

Orthodox Serbs may like the Jews, but you can't deny the many Orthodox Russians hated and massacred them.
Jesus was Jewish ( at least according to the Gospel, some historians doubt he is real), but that doesn't mean that Jews will someday believe in him.

Friend, come on now you are giving examples of individual deeds.

Josip Broz Tito a criminal who killed many Serbs was half Jewish, so what?
Yes some Jews ordered NATO to bomb Serbia in 1999?
Madeline Albright and other Jews who were part of the Clinton administration?

Must I now hate all the Jews for the crimes of those Jews who even do not represent Judaism? Am I attacking the Jewish whole religion because of that?

Do you see how you self sound? Attacking Russia and the Orthodox religion because of individual crimes?

Are you claming that Russians are collective anti Semitic?

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #26 on:** January 02, 2008, 03:18:36 PM »

Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on January 02, 2008, 03:12:53 PM

. But I just want to say that Orthodox Christianity is not exempt of hate as you claim.

Orthodox Christianity is not hate free?
Wrong!!!!!!!!

Go above to the forum rules you provided wrong interpretation of the Serbian Orthodox religion.

This is against the forums condition.

MODERATOR FROM THE SERBIAN SUBFORUM IS NOW WANTED!

Raulmarrio2000 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 02, 2008, 03:27:57 PM »

SOME Catholics now (the Church as a whole in the past) are anti-Semite. SOME Protestant are anti-Semite. SOME Jewish branches like the German reform had some anti-Semite teaching (not annoying the Gentiles by being "too Jewish")
Why cannot you admit that SOME Orthodox Christians have been anti-Semite?

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #28 on:** January 02, 2008, 03:35:30 PM »

Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on January 02, 2008, 03:27:57 PM

Why cannot you admit that SOME Orthodox Christians have been anti-Semite?

If they have been than they were the minority and they made compromises.

In Serbia not even 0.00000001 % of the population ever gave support to Anti Semitism.
Russia had never Anti Semite massmovement. The Russians were never collective anti Jewish like the Germans and the Croats were. Croats are still Nazis
Well, the orthodox teaching never replaced its own teachings with Anti Semitism!

Many people can call them selves Orthodox.

Raulmarrio2000 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 02, 2008, 03:55:13 PM »

What??? I don't read Cyrilic. If it's an insult.... it would be coward to insult in a language and alphabet that the forum can't censor.

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #30 on:** January 02, 2008, 04:03:56 PM »

Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on January 02, 2008, 03:55:13 PM

What??? I don't read Cyrilic. If it's an insult.... it would be coward to insult in a language and alphabet that the forum can't censor.

No and i was just yoking!

Husar said: Dam it! Nothing to you Muchacho...
There was no insult!

Jasmina · « **Reply #31 on:** January 02, 2008, 04:06:02 PM »

I love this topic!!! I have NO comments!!!!

I only know that in my city Jews and Serbs were friends and have the best buildings in the center of Timisoara and always have a good relationship...Jews and Serbs are very clever and conservative nations andif WE don't understand eachother and don't support, then OUR FIGHT against evil is already lost!

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #32 on:** January 02, 2008, 04:07:21 PM »

Jasmina srce bas si to sve ljepo rekla.....

JTFFan · « **Reply #33 on:** January 02, 2008, 04:07:33 PM »

Quote from: Jasmina on January 02, 2008, 04:06:02 PM

I love this topic!!! I have NO comments!!!!
I only know that in my city Jews and Serbs were friends and have the best buildings in the center of Timisoara and always have a good relationship...Jews and Serbs are very clever and conservative nations andif WE don't understand eachother and don't support, then OUR FIGHT against evil is already lost!

Great to hear that. Great pictures

Jasmina · « **Reply #34 on:** January 02, 2008, 04:17:42 PM »

Thanks!

The first picture is PIATA UNIRII ( UNION SQUARE), the green building and Yellow church is Serbian, rest is Jewish buildings around!!!
The second pic is OPERA, the place where Romanian revolution started, where people from Timisoara got together to fight against the communism (Ceausescu family, in DEC 1989)
Third picture is Romanian Cathedral, very nice view, people also died on the stairs of this church because of fighting against communism, timisoara was proclaimed the CITY WHERE ALL STARTED AND THE CITY OF HEROES!
The forth pic is the same Serbian ANTICARIAT (I don't know to translate) it's like LIBRARY and the Serbian Church next to the green building ( we have 3 Serbian Churches in Timisoara) ...

JTFFan · « **Reply #35 on:** January 02, 2008, 04:35:46 PM »

Quote from: Jasmina on January 02, 2008, 04:17:42 PM

Thanks!
The first picture is PIATA UNIRII ( UNION SQUARE), the green building and Yellow church is Serbian, rest is Jewish buildings around!!!
The second pic is OPERA, the place where Romanian revolution started, where people from Timisoara got together to fight against the communism (Ceausescu family, in DEC 1989)
Third picture is Romanian Cathedral, very nice view, people also died on the stairs of this church because of fighting against communism, timisoara was proclaimed the CITY WHERE ALL STARTED AND THE CITY OF HEROES!
The forth pic is the same Serbian ANTICARIAT (I don't know to translate) and the Serbian Church next to the green building ( we have 3 Serbian Churches in Timisoara) ...

thanks for the info. your welcome

Husar · « **Reply #36 on:** January 02, 2008, 07:01:55 PM »

Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on January 02, 2008, 03:27:57 PM

SOME Catholics now (the Church as a whole in the past) are anti-Semite. SOME Protestant are anti-Semite. SOME Jewish branches like the German reform had some anti-Semite teaching (not annoying the Gentiles by being "too Jewish")
Why cannot you admit that SOME Orthodox Christians have been anti-Semite?

NAZIBULGARS yes, Serbs NO.

Thank you, good bye.

Kiwi · « **Reply #37 on:** January 03, 2008, 01:58:20 AM »

Muchacho.

JTFFan · « **Reply #38 on:** January 03, 2008, 05:12:47 AM »

Quote from: Husar on January 02, 2008, 07:01:55 PM

Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on January 02, 2008, 03:27:57 PM
SOME Catholics now (the Church as a whole in the past) are anti-Semite. SOME Protestant are anti-Semite. SOME Jewish branches like the German reform had some anti-Semite teaching (not annoying the Gentiles by being "too Jewish")
Why cannot you admit that SOME Orthodox Christians have been anti-Semite?

NAZIBULGARS yes, Serbs NO.

Thank you, good bye.

Well said, Husar

Husar · « **Reply #39 on:** January 03, 2008, 06:37:45 AM »

We

Serbs

NEVER

needed

some argentinian raulmarrio

to know

HOW

to behave

towards Jews,

who

suffered/suffer

the same Pain

as we did/do !!!!

Hasta la vista, Baby !!!

Raulmarrio2000 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 03, 2008, 08:34:09 PM »

I never said if there have been anti-Semites Serbs or not. I only said that there have been some Orthodox Christian anti-Semites in the world. I especifically quoted some cases in Russia. And I was just rebutting Dalamacija, who seemed to think that ALL orthodox Christians in history have been hate-free (which is cearly wrong).
Now, if you don't care to read carefully....it's not my fault!!!!!!!!!!

ftf · « **Reply #41 on:** January 03, 2008, 08:48:50 PM »

Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on January 03, 2008, 08:34:09 PM

I never said if there have been anti-Semites Serbs or not. I only said that there have been some Orthodox Christian anti-Semites in the world. I especifically quoted some cases in Russia. And I was just rebutting Dalamacija, who seemed to think that ALL orthodox Christians in history have been hate-free (which is cearly wrong).
Now, if you don't care to read carefully....it's not my fault!!!!!!!!!!

Someone can call themself a Christian without being a Christian.

Raulmarrio2000 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 03, 2008, 09:01:55 PM »

Quote from: ftf on January 03, 2008, 08:48:50 PM

Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on January 03, 2008, 08:34:09 PM
I never said if there have been anti-Semites Serbs or not. I only said that there have been some Orthodox Christian anti-Semites in the world. I especifically quoted some cases in Russia. And I was just rebutting Dalamacija, who seemed to think that ALL orthodox Christians in history have been hate-free (which is cearly wrong).
Now, if you don't care to read carefully....it's not my fault!!!!!!!!!!
Someone can call themself a Christian without being a Christian.

Then, there was also not even one Catholic anti-Semite, they were people who called themselves Catholics without bieng really Catholic. Why that double standard? Catholics who do evil are still Catholics, but Orthodox Christians who do the same are not to be considered Christinans, and so Christian Orthodoxy is hate-free? hahahah

ftf · « **Reply #43 on:** January 03, 2008, 09:04:52 PM »

Loving Jews is part of being Christian, if you call yourself a Christian but hate Jews, you're lying in saying that you're a Christian.

Kiwi · « **Reply #44 on:** January 03, 2008, 09:17:14 PM »

Quote from: ftf on January 03, 2008, 09:04:52 PM

Loving Jews is part of being Christian, if you call yourself a Christian but hate Jews, you're lying in saying that you're a Christian.

Well no its not, where in the New Testament it says you must love Jews?

They only thing I can think you would be thinking of is "do unto others, as you would have do unto you".

Which is the Golden Rule of Christendom.

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #45 on:** January 04, 2008, 04:55:04 AM »

Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on January 03, 2008, 08:34:09 PM

I never said if there have been anti-Semites Serbs or not. I only said that there have been some Orthodox Christian anti-Semites in the world.

There were some like you say. A minority who does not represent the whole religion.
That is the difference between Germany and Russia. The Germans for example were collective anti Semitic and their government organized and conducted genocide against the Jews.

Russia never had a mass anti Jewish movement. Russia also didn't had a government which had anti Semitic rules.

So we are talking about a minority from the orthodox nations.
Like you have said there are also Jews who have anti Jewish idea.

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #46 on:** January 04, 2008, 05:02:29 AM »

Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on January 03, 2008, 09:01:55 PM

Then, there was also not even one Catholic anti-Semite, they were people who called themselves Catholics without bieng really Catholic. Why that double standard? Catholics who do evil are still Catholics, but Orthodox Christians who do the same are not to be considered Christinans, and so Christian Orthodoxy is hate-free? hahahah

You can not compare this.
The head of the Vatican agreed with Anti Semitism.
They prosecuted the Jews for centuries long am I right?

The Vatican helped the Nazis during WW2 and helped the establishment of Nazi Croatia.
They glorified Croatian Ustashi priests who participated in the holocaust against the Serbs and the Jews.

You can not compare that with the individual crimes of some people who are Orthodox by origin. When did the Orthodox church participated in those kind of crimes? Or organized forced converts? They did not.

Husar · « **Reply #47 on:** January 04, 2008, 06:57:36 AM »

INQUISITION

USTASHA/NAZICROATS

JASENOVAC (almost ONE MILLION ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN SERBS and TORAH JEWS slaughtered by catholics !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Three words, just three words, SHOWING catholic "heritage".

WHAT is to be compared w<ith this in the Orthodox Church ?

Furthermore:
NAZIBULGARS were/are anti-Semites and "orthodox"....
BUT what kind of "orthodox",
since the Orthodox Church is ORIENTAL,
but NAZIBULGARS side with catho-protestant western-"savior" germany ?!!!!
NAZIBULGARS had a german as their king and ruler !!!!!!!!

All of this isn't Orthodox at all.

It is pro-western (in its anti-Orthodox struggle !!!).

DALMACIJA · « **Reply #48 on:** January 04, 2008, 08:45:33 AM »

Quote from: ftf on January 03, 2008, 09:04:52 PM

Loving Jews is part of being Christian, if you call yourself a Christian but hate Jews, you're lying in saying that you're a Christian.

You sound like that the Christians are commanded to love the Jews specific above the others. But that we have more in common with the Jews than with other non christians is an other story.
We feel connected to the Jews because Marija Jewish woman gave birth to Christ and because the founders of the Christian religion are Jews. And beacuse the whole old testaments goes about the Jews.

To love people accroding to the New Testament.
That does not only count for the Jews, to only love the Jews. But for all humans.

The new testament says that we must be tolerant to every human.
In Gods eyes everyone is equal.

There is no difference between a Greek and a Jew.
That is written.

Husar · « **Reply #49 on:** January 04, 2008, 09:23:52 AM »

Quote from: DALMACIJA on January 04, 2008, 08:45:33 AM

Quote from: ftf on January 03, 2008, 09:04:52 PM
Loving Jews is part of being Christian, if you call yourself a Christian but hate Jews, you're lying in saying that you're a Christian.

You sound like that the Christians are commanded to love the Jews specific above the others. But that we have more in common with the Jews than with other non christians is an other story.
We feel connected to the Jews because Marija Jewish woman gave birth to Christ and because the founders of the Christian religion are Jews. And beacuse the whole old testaments goes about the Jews.

To love people accroding to the New Testament.
That does not only count for the Jews, to only love the Jews. But for all humans.

NAZICROATS AREN'T "HUMANS".

The new testament says that we must be tolerant to every human.

MUSSLIMONKEYS AREN'T "HUMANS".

In Gods eyes everyone is equal.

DEVIL REMAINS DEVIL,
EVIL REMAINS EVIL.

IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOUGHT/EXTERMINATED.

NOT WORSHIPPED/RESPECTED/CONSIDERED.

There is no difference between a Greek and a Jew.
That is written.

Author Topic: Why don’t also the Serbs hate the Jews? (Read 17137 times)

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