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Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« on: July 10, 2007, 07:53:33 AM »
The EU Has No ‘Plan B’ for the Balkans, or, Welcome to the Reservation
Balkanalysis.com
By Christopher Deliso

EU policy towards the West Balkan states has sought to keep the various antagonistic nations and ethnicities from one another’s throats, by promising eventual membership in NATO and the European Union to each country. This was to be the magic solution. The premise was that the collective advantages of membership in these institutions, and the ensuing irrelevance of territorial borders within an all-encompassing union, would be enough to keep the many nationalists and irredentists at bay.

In fact, every politicial, juridical and economic decision and reform made by Balkan governments since then has been driven by the hopefulness that this promise will be rewarded. Political parties incessantly campaign on it to the point that, ironically, there is no realistic opportunity for political differences other than ethnic and religious chauvinism, because there is no debate allowed on the simple matter of whether or not joining the EU is a sensible goal. Yet what if the West fails to make good on its pledge? What is the Plan B?

There is every reason to think that the West is not going to make good, at least not anytime soon. Plan B, vague deferment, is not really a plan at all. Bulgaria and Romania made it into the EU (as of January 2007, that is) by the skin of their teeth and their citizens are not likely to be given free roam of Europe, considering the rising anti-immigration sentiment, the French and Dutch referendums, and things like the “Polish plumber” syndrome in England. Of course, this threatened circumspection has not prevented realtors and retirees in Britain, Germany and other EU states from snatching up prime pieces of Black Sea coastline.

The same is true in Montenegro, where the lovely Adriatic shore is now almost entirely in foreign hands. Montenegro became the newest state in Europe this spring, is not (at least officially) on standby to join the EU, and yet it is bound to be fast-tracked ahead of neighboring countries like Macedonia and Albania which have been waiting patiently and carrying out reforms for years, but which have more internal problems and less appeal.

This is not to say that Montenegro is completely out of the woods. It became independent from Serbia largely because of the Muslim vote (Bosniak Muslims and Albanians), and these groups have already made various threats about where their ultimate ambitions lie. (Hint: It is not in Montenegro). Even without the fulfillment of this danger, the inevitable rise in property costs – as has been attested in Hungary, the Czech Republic and elsewhere – means that private property ownership for the supposed motor of the economy (the young and educated middle-class, that is) will become less and less likely.

Elsewhere, with the controversial independence of Kosovo fast arriving, the Bosnian Serbs have warned that they will take it as a precedent for a referendum on their own national self-determination rights. The stronger the Bosnian Muslim part of the federation pushes for centralization – of course, with the wholehearted backing of the country’s German viceroy – the stronger the resistance of the Serbs who fear living under Muslim rule. The much smaller Croat federal population has hinted that if Republika Srpska goes, they may bail as well.

The result would be a Muslim ghetto in the center of the Balkans, stripped of any need for “good behavior” to keep the internationals happy in return for keeping the country united. This hostile entity would be contiguous with the coming Balkan trouble spot, Serbia’s largely Muslim Sandzak, which has now been cut in two between Serbia and Montenegro. There, a very dangerous Islamic radical group funded by Iran and Saudi Arabia is gathering strength. Sandzak in turn borders on Kosovo which, if independent and free of international control – already, the UN has turned over border control to the Kosovo Albanians, which means there is no longer a border with Albania – will see a renewed challenge from the Wahhabis for religious and eventually political leadership. Whether the majority of Albanians wants them or not is not the issue. The important thing is that the Wahhabis have shown, in Kosovo and in neighboring Balkan states, a willingness to use armed violence against fellow Muslims to achieve their aims. Yet Europe pretends not to see this and the Serbian lobby erroneously and mistakenly conflates the problem: it is simple logic that if you argue all apples are red, your opponent will discredit you by arguing that no apples are red, though some of them might indeed be red.

The endemic problem, however, is that Europe wants to have its cake and eat it too. It wants to control the economies of Balkan countries, which it already does to a large extent, defending up their investment and preferential treatment demands with political threats and never-ending EU membership hurdles. In industries like telecommunications, for example, EU companies seek to make up for sluggish profits at home by exploiting monopoly situations and customer rip-offs in the Balkans.

At the same time, the West wants to get rid of immigrants, especially Muslims and criminal elements rightly or wrongly associated in Western minds with the Balkans, and at the same time also have Balkan states follow their dictates in a nice and orderly fashion. Yet the recent passage of tough immigration laws in Switzerland, probably to be replicated in other EU countries, could see the deportation of tens or even hundreds of thousands of Balkan Muslim legal workers (as well, perhaps, as the many thousands arrested for drug and weapons trafficking).

Considering that a major source of real wealth in Albania, Kosovo and Macedonia comes from the remittances of relatives working in the West, it is not hard to see what will happen to Balkan economies when these breadwinners are forcibly returned. Add this large group of newly unemployed young men to the mix – who will be especially bitter at having enjoyed until recently La Dolce Vita in the West (remember, you can’t miss what you never had) – and you have a perfect recipe for war, more refugees, and a never-ending cycle of violence.

There are several possible scenarios for the independences of Kosovo, as we saw last week with a internal document circulated within the United Nations Mission in Kosovo. None of the scenarios provide reason for optimism. But continued inclusion in Serbia is also unrealistic and, if the Western anti-immigration parties win out, will create a major problem for Serbia if it has to absorb still more Kosovars.

Ironically, there are two stories with the EU’s schizophrenic independence policies. With the Montenegrin coast, it envisions one giant retirement community for graying Euro-pensioners to live out their days in tranquility, a kind of happy-farm, whereas in Kosovo it seems to want to create a sort of reservation for Muslim returnees to live out their days as far away from Western Europe as possible.

Another twist: whereas the US, with its old reservation policy, forcibly removed the Indians’ land from under their feet and resettled them with in open holding pens, the EU is trying to remove the Kosovars’ feet from under Western lands and set them down again on their own soil. The result is the same, however- an open reservation for undesirables. Of course both at least have casinos.

The problem is not that EU membership is not coming fast enough. The problem is that it won’t be the magical cure its supporters claim it will be. We should never forget that there is a whole class of political and administrative beings whose entire existence, salaries and retirement plan depends on the grim and constant enlargement of the European Union. The opinions of this small group of individuals inevitably runs counter to that which has been expressed by the majority of Western European populations. The EU is out of touch, corrupt and incompetent, and no amount of propaganda (which Brussels is desperately about to embark on) will change that. The question is whether, in their self-serving attempts to avoid the ’straight’ workforce, the Eurocrats will destroy the Balkans first.

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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2007, 09:23:10 AM »
Every nation with a Muslim population within must, according to the Koran/Hadith, expell them as enemies of the State or for treason.  Since Islam's goal is to rule the world..... GET OUT!!!  We have far too many here in Canadakstan.....  Fly into our airports it is comparable to landing in Khartoum....  terrible just terrible...  We can thank the EU, UN, CFR and all of these elitist egalitarians for this....bastards...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2007, 01:54:08 PM »
Pretty good writing.

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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2007, 05:21:12 PM »
alija izetbegovic, head of  the bosno-muslims, during the "Bosnian war",
(died unpunished)
wrote his ISLAMIC DECLARATION.

Serbs knew what they had to fight.
The west, not less informed,
remained silent concerning this "declaration",
and pestified against the Serbs.

...Leading to the bombing of Serbia.

NAZICROATS wished (in NAZICROATIAN TV, during meteorologic prognostic)
Serbia a pure sky (without clouds)
so that the NATO WARPLANES could easily target anything on Serbian Soil.

Who said everybody is born "equal" ?...
Who ever on earth spoke and wrote anything about Human Rights ???

 :-X
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2007, 06:59:47 PM »
alija izetbegovic, head of  the bosno-muslims, during the "Bosnian war",
(died unpunished)
wrote his ISLAMIC DECLARATION.

Serbs knew what they had to fight.
The west, not less informed,
remained silent concerning this "declaration",
and pestified against the Serbs.

...Leading to the bombing of Serbia.

NAZICROATS wished (in NAZICROATIAN TV, during meteorologic prognostic)
Serbia a pure sky (without clouds)
so that the NATO WARPLANES could easily target anything on Serbian Soil.

Who said everybody is born "equal" ?...
Who ever on earth spoke and wrote anything about Human Rights ???

 :-X

Karl Marx, Rosa Luxemburg, Margarete Meade, Jesse Jackson, Jimmy Carter, Adolf Hitler ...lol  Just pulling your leg...lol ;)
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2007, 08:02:41 PM »
My leg is already torn... :D
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2007, 09:17:46 PM »
Glad you have a good sense of humor....  I do hope the Serbs one day find the backing and take back their lands by FORCE.  If you get a chance look up the book "Media Cleansing" by Peter Brock.  I think you'll find it very informative considering it is about the censorship, "politically correct" distortions and debased political agendas between the Clinton Administration, UN and Germany towards Yugoslavia and the Serbs...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2007, 09:28:36 PM »
I know for this book, though I didn't buy it
(though I should, just to support its writer).

As a Serb, I saw so many ugly things done to my People,
that not much things do surprise me anymore.

But it is not sad...I mean...not being (as much) surprised anymore...

It's just, perhaps, could I call it...wisdom ?

 ;)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2007, 09:51:14 PM »
Husar, you seem like a good sort.  Keep up the fight and one day, G-d willing, these horrible bastards will get exactly what they disserve...  You know, perhaps you might get some of your Serbian friends together and contact Downtreader on this forum and make a documentary about the entire tragic affair?  Perhaps that would give light to the shameful situation and political realities that Clinton, Germany, EU/UN and Russia played on undermining your people and country....  Just a thought...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2007, 10:12:52 PM »
Thank you marZutra for your kindness towards me.

As for a documentary, MANY of them already do exist.

One of them is called "ISTINA" ("TRUTH").

It's a Serbian documentary, thus, "simply" being a Serbian one, it is "biased" for any western country.....

All the leading ones, throughout this planet,
know WHO the Serbs are, and WHAT they do combat.

But it is not to be said.
But we Serbs, and those who understand and/or support us,
MUST FIND OUR PATH TO PUBLICITY.

If not, we will be erased from the surface of earth.

 :o
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2007, 10:23:40 PM »
I agree.  We fight the same battle.  Anyone with a functioning brain or even a Bible (even a Qur'an) knows that Bolistine was never a nation so how could an entire "nation" of "people" exist?  They distroyed your country and are attacking your history the same as these Communists, Globalists and Moslems are doing to the Jew by distancing the Judean (Jew) from Judea but fabricating and entire "history" of Arabians to Bolistine and further Bolistianians to a "West Bank"....

We are in big trouble my friend.  If those that be reward the Muslims with another Islamic State on Biblical Israel....especially with the Kotel and so-called "East Jerusalem" as its capital....  WE ARE FCUKED!!
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2007, 03:37:36 AM »
Because we're in big trouble, we found each other here, in this wonderful forum, to discuss about it.

I wish to thank JTF from the deepest of my Serbian Soul.

THANK YOU JTF.

 :)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2007, 04:21:09 PM »
EU is an example haw Europe shoud never be united; And Serbs had misfortune of not having true patriotic leaders when they need them most, Both Serbia and israel must do we Poles and Checks did to our fivth column: 12 milions of ethnic germans; expell them (muslims) or you'll never have peace. I'm particulary appaled by croats behavior during WWII and beyound; haw they coud back up the German ans nazis; when milions of their slavic brothers were butchered by Hitlerites in Poland and Russia; haw they coud back up muslims who assoulted Europe from centuries during the latest Balkans War? ::)     
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

Love your Enemy
And Heap Burning Coals on his Head!!!
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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2007, 04:42:46 PM »
EU is an example haw Europe shoud never be united; And Serbs had misfortune of not having true patriotic leaders when they need them most, Both Serbia and israel must do we Poles and Checks did to our fivth column: 12 milions of ethnic germans; expell them (muslims) or you'll never have peace. I'm particulary appaled by croats behavior during WWII and beyound; haw they coud back up the German ans nazis; when milions of their slavic brothers were butchered by Hitlerites in Poland and Russia; haw they coud back up muslims who assoulted Europe from centuries during the latest Balkans War? ::)     
this animals always have been german servants

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The pathologic behaviour of NAZICROATIA (never punished for its many crimes!!!)
towards Serbia is to be found also in Japan's behaviour towards China.
NAZICROATIA and Japan suck whatever they can
from Serbia, for the first,
and from China, for the second.

Without Serbia, NAZICROATIA simply could not have neither anthem
(written by Serb Josif Runjanin, croaticized in "josip" Runjanin),
nor any kind of litterature (Vuk Karadzic's fault),
nor any even LANGUAGE.
NAZICROATS DO SPEAK SERBIAN.
But telling 'em this
makes 'em blowing up.

 Grin

They themselves claim to be non-Slavic "pasmina" (race).
How on earth do they speak and write and read Serbian (a Slavic Language par excellence) Huh

They claim they (NAZICROATS) were subdued by the number of the Slavic (Serbs) Peoples
during the great invasions of Europe by Barbarian Tribes.

In catholic austria-hungary,
Slavs couldn't rule and were seen as only peasants.
NAZICROATS were part (territorialy) of austria-hungary,
with particular MAGYAR (hungarian) YOKE upon their nazithroats.

Serbs were themselves also part of austria-hungary (as well as part of the Ottoman Empire).
But they were Orthodox Christians (at least those Serbs who didn't convert to islam or catholicism).
In austria-hungary, Serbs were seen as allies against the Turkish threat.
They entered en masse the austro-hungarian army and benefited also financially
(no taxes to pay in exchange of military duty and fight for austria-hungary).

As such, Serbs were much less complexified than the NAZICROATS.
Why ?

NAZICROATS were (and still are) catholics.
BUT THEY PAID TAXES NON-CATHOLIC SERBS DID NEVER PAY...
In their own nazicroateyes,
how on earth could a catholic be of less value
than another one (for exemple an austrian one), just because of being Slav Huh

And worse of all,
how on earth could a catholic NAZICROAT be of less value
than an ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN SERB Huh?

Is there any remedy ?
Yes, there is:
do not call yourself a Slav any more !

 Roll Eyes

And the NAZICROATS began to search for something "better"
than being JUST AND PURELY YOURSELF (i. e., in their case, Slavs)...

Pityful ones...

Among 'em were rumors that they might be, after all, "Avars"...
In this very case, MAGYAR YOKE is less heavy...
since Magyars and Avars (and Bulgars) are all Mongoloids.

Thus NAZICROATS could pretend they're in a kind of co-alition of Mongoloid Tribes...
And it sounds much better than being ruled.

 Tongue

Of course, this was only NAZICROAT WANNABE DREAM.
The Magyars knew very well NAZICROATS were no Mongoloids at all.

And the Magyars kept on ruling over them. Wink

NAZICROATS had to find something...
This is where the "Illyrism" began.

As "Illyrians" (as they couldn't stand Magyar yoke),
NAZICROATS dreamt of a bond with Slovenes,
and...more than anything,
with the ONES that were the PIEMONT of Balkanic Slavdom,
the fierce-in-combat Serbs.

NAZICROATS tried to convince the serbs they were "Illyrians" too,
and that, therefore, they should unite against austria-hungary,
in order to create an "Illyrian" State.

Serbs did respond to that LIE,
believed in some kind of Brotherhood
with the illiterate NAZICROATS.

When I mean "illiterate NAZICROATS",
it doesn't mean at all they didn't know reading and writing and speaking GERMAN or MAGYAR or LATIN...
It means THEY DO NOT POSSESS THEIR OWN "croatian" LANGUAGE.

Did you know they had to learn ONLY GERMAN or ONLY MAGYAR at school, in "croatia" proper !!!
This for centuries !!!
You certainly know that catholic church, from its evil-beginning,
AUTHORIZES ONLY LATIN AS A SPOKEN AND WRITTEN LANGUAGE.
And this has changed only decades or a century or two backwards.
This means that EVEN IN THEIR CHURCHES,
NAZICROATS COULDN'T HEAR THEIR LANGUAGE !!!

Serbs always prayed in Slavonic-Serb Language, their own Language.
Their Orthodox christian Church NEVER forbid the use and practice of their own Language.
At school, they learned their History, and even at home, there were GUSLE playing,
and singing Serbian national Epics was a sheer enlightenment.

Believing, though, in some kind of "Brotherhood" with NAZICROATS,
the Serbs began to SHARE with them their National Epics, Songs, Stories,
in one word, their SERBIAN BEING.

 Angry

It was more than inesperate for NAZICROATS.
They sucked the Serbian Bone to the very end and led war against 'em during WWI.
They slaughtered the Serbs en masse.

When NAZICROATIDOL ADOLF HITLER came to power in germany,
NAZICROATS began to throw their "Illyrian" roots through the window,
claiming another origin, MORE FITTING to the "new europe" that was emerging...
THE NAZICROATS BECAME "GOTHS".

Sounds much more powerful and appealling to their german masters.
ANTE PAVELIC, the POGLAVNIK (on the head of), the NAZICROAT FUEHRER,
ANNOUNCED TO ITS NAZICROAT FOLK THAT THEY ARE, in fact, "GOTHS".

One proof NAZICROATS are "Goths", germanic people ?
"Milch" in german is "Mljeko" in "NAZICROAT"
(forgetting willingly and on purpose to remind the Serbian "Mleko"
and related in Russian, in Polish, in Czech, in Slovakian, id est in Slavic) !

As newborn "goths", NAZICROATS BEGAN
SLAUGHTERING SERBS, ROMAS AND JEWS,
on a level unseen in the History of Mankind.

NAZICROATS WERE NEVER EVER PUNISHED FOR THEIR UNDEEDS.

WWII is now part of (the saddest, darkest) past.

It is definitely no longer well, for NAZICROATS,
to claim being any kind of "Goth" any more,
due to the fact that HITLER is not in power any more...

New researchs began.
NAZICROATS found the Iranian Language being tied to the Slavic One
(Iranian "zamin" tied with Slavic "zemlja", meaning "land", for instance).

But NAZICROATS won't say "SLAVIC One",
NAZICROATS say "CROATIAN One".

And here they go, as always,
from "universities" to presidential seat, and vice-versa,
claiming they are, in fact, Iranians lost among Slavic Serbs !

 Roll Eyes

NAZICROATS congratulate each other, as always, after such discoveries...of themselves Huh

They tied themselves to an Iranian NAZI PARTY nowadays.
I shall give you all, if you would like, the adress of the website where they brag together.

You 'd like something more "funny"-ugly ?
A turkish writer had great (enormous) publicity in NAZICROATIA,
was it last year, or quite a few years ago...
He was ALSO congratulated by the NAZICROAT "universities" and,
more generally, by the NAZICROAT "opinion".

WHY ?

He claimed NAZICROATS WERE, in fact, A TURKISH TRIBE !

His name ?

KARATAY.

Easy to find on the WWW.

All of this to say:
NIKOLA TESLA IS A SERBIAN MAN,
born in austria-hungary,
in a village that would be later
(after WWI and Serbian Victory against germany-austria-hungary)
a "croatian" village,
from Serbian Parents.
His father being an Orthodox Priest.

Thank you very much for reading.
All my apologizes for the length of this text of mine.
It had to be written.

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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2007, 05:53:16 AM »
Well you have nothing to apologise; it was informative and fun; I can only said that all who alie themselfs with Germans shoud be shot on sight; it pitty that Stalin wanted German heavy industry; those wanabie "ubermnachen" shoud be driven out across Elba; and East Germany shoud be divided between Poland , Check Republic and Polabian Serbs btw Are they cousins of balkanian Serbs?   
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

Love your Enemy
And Heap Burning Coals on his Head!!!
http://net-burst.net/revenge/love_and_wrath_of_God.htm

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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2007, 06:05:15 AM »
Polabian Serbs btw Are they cousins of balkanian Serbs?   
same people, just they stayed there and never moved south like we did, Łužisky Serbja, donjolužičkosrpski: Łužysky Serby

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Re: Towards a Muslim Terrorist State in the Balkans
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2007, 07:15:43 AM »
Lusatian Serbs and Balkanic Serbs are more than cousins, they're Brothers.
The only thing is that our respective governments DO NOTHING
to create a stronger link, a stronger tie between
the two of us, small Countries.

We could help them not being germanicized like they actually are,
they could help us, at least, in widening true information about: who WE Serbs are,
id est, not the Barbarians the west presents (and lies).

During WWI, a Lusatian Serb, instead of being enroled in german army,
went directly to Serbia and fought alongside the Serbs (meaning alongside HIS folk).
His name was Pavel Sturm, as long as he was a Lusatian, sadly, germanicized Serb,
and became Pavle Jurisic (the one who rushes, like storm-Sturm) as a Balkanic, non-germanicized Serb.
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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