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A Topic that went badly wrong (formerly called a reminder of the forum rules)

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ftf:
Rules numbers 4 and 5 of this forum read as follows:

4. Threats and personal insults are not acceptable, and will lead to the banning of members who engage in such conduct. The administrators may decide to first provide a warning to any member making threats or personal insults, or may to decide to ban such members immediately.

5. JTF is a religious organization. While we have many non-religious supporters, and we welcome them, we do expect them to respect our beliefs. Therefore, obscene language of any kind is unacceptable and may lead to the banning of a member.

Until somone tells me otherwise I will inforce these rules vigorously in this, my, section.

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newman:
Those rules were never intended to apply to muslim-nazis who are dedicated to killing every Jew and christian on this planet and who state that 'Torah has been perverted' (G_d forbid) .

BTW ftf, the section you moderate is NOT your personal fiefdom!

This situation is getting more insane with each passing day. Will any members out there with backbone PLEASE act?

ftf:
I am happy with you opposing islam, but do it without the obscenities.

It's insane that I'm taking a stand, against people using obscene langauge on our forums who are by doing so belittling our organisation?

Ehud:
We need some sort of final ruling on this.  The forum rules say that personal insults are not acceptable and that obscene language is unacceptable.  First of all, nothing that newman said was personal.  He was attacking Islam, not Abdulluh, he doesn't even know who Abdulluh is.  I think that rule 4 doesn't apply in this situation, but rule 5 definitely does.  What constitutes obscene language?  Chaim said that we have the right to verbally assault and insult any of our enemies such as evil blacks and arab nazis.  Maybe it is obscene to talk about cutting or biting the you know what from a woman's private parts, but it's not obscene to attack Muslims and insult them.  Ftf, you have a problem with that, but as long as you don't delete posts that use methods of attack that are different than yours, I don't believe there is a problem here.  I do agree that talk about mutilating women's genitals is taking it a bit too far but then again,  to me it is a legitimate way of attacking Muslims because THAT'S WHAT SOME MUSLIMS DO TO THEIR DAUGHTERS.  As a good rule of thumb, always try to think of what Chaim would do in a certain situation.  Does he insult and demean Muslims, YES, but I don't think he would ever discuss in an in-depth way, crudely performing female genital mutilation.     

ftf:
I'm not in any way opposed to insulting islam, but in keeping with the forum rules, when it comes to a specific person I think we should be attacking the beliefs not the person, many posts by newman and Muck de Fuslims were definately aimed at the person, calling him specifically a cammel humper for instance.

Why couldn't they alternatively say "Why does your religion authorise sex with animals?" That would be in keeping with the rules, and would stop it from being personal.

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