The Worldwide Crisis of Islam > The Truth About Islam
A Topic that went badly wrong (formerly called a reminder of the forum rules)
Muck DeFuslims:
Smiling while burning the Queeran, huh ?
The barbarity !
Oh, the inhumanity !
I like it.
But I still wouldn't trust 'em.
ftf:
--- Quote from: newman on August 10, 2007, 10:29:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: ftf on August 10, 2007, 10:24:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: Muck DeFuslims on August 10, 2007, 10:22:33 AM ---OK, but remember to ask them if they're 'real' muslims before you camp them.
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In my opinion it would be utterly impossible to determine who is and isn't a real muslim accurately, for that reason I would advocate putting all muslims in camps which they would be allowed to leave only after having proved for definite that they were not muslims, possibly by smiling while burning a quran.
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???
Ever heard of taqqiya? A terrorist has permission from the mullahs and imams to eat a pork chop and drink vodka for the sake of his cause. They will gladly burn a koran to fool a fool.
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I really doubt it, did you know that a member of al'quaeda gave names of other members under threat of being forced to have a bath if he didn't?
aC23:
--- Quote from: newman on August 10, 2007, 06:39:36 AM ---In defense of Muck:
These problems that occasionally arise are not instigated by Muck or myself. They are instigated by a the same 1 or 2 christians every time.
And before you accuse me of attacking christians, let me point out that we have heaps of christians on this forum who cause no problems at all.
What these 1 or 2 individuals are doing is proselytising by stealth.
What is proelytising by stealth? Read their posts and you will see. These people know full well that they can't come on here and demand we accept 'that man' as Messiach. So instead, they take an underhand sneaky way of doing the same thing by insisting that we accept NT philosophies that are contrary to Torah. Take the trouble to read over their posts if you don't believe me. By declaring that G-d requies us to bless our enemies, turn the other cheek, love evil doers or anything else advocated by 'that man' in the NT (and all of which is the complete opposite of Torah) is nothing but PROSELYTISING BY STEALTH.
Everyone is free to follow the theology of his/her choice. HOWEVER, this is a JEWISH- TORAH forum. If certain individuals are going to insist on the rest of us adhering to heretical, anti-Torah, anti-Jewish BS then they should expect righteous Jews like Muck to challenge them. Muck is absolutely right to do so. All righteous people be they Jew or christian must unite in common cause, but there can be no quarter given to any attempt at proselytizing no matter how subtle or sneaky. NT/ christian doctrine cannot be elevated over Jewish Torah principles.
I seek a clear ruling once and for all.
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I didn't notice this but it's irrelevant: anyone who doesn't have a half-brain to tell right from wrong (in this case, not falling for "stealth proselytizing") is probably just a mindless sheep that would fall for anything.
newman:
--- Quote from: aC23 on August 10, 2007, 01:25:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: newman on August 10, 2007, 06:39:36 AM ---In defense of Muck:
These problems that occasionally arise are not instigated by Muck or myself. They are instigated by a the same 1 or 2 christians every time.
And before you accuse me of attacking christians, let me point out that we have heaps of christians on this forum who cause no problems at all.
What these 1 or 2 individuals are doing is proselytising by stealth.
What is proelytising by stealth? Read their posts and you will see. These people know full well that they can't come on here and demand we accept 'that man' as Messiach. So instead, they take an underhand sneaky way of doing the same thing by insisting that we accept NT philosophies that are contrary to Torah. Take the trouble to read over their posts if you don't believe me. By declaring that G-d requies us to bless our enemies, turn the other cheek, love evil doers or anything else advocated by 'that man' in the NT (and all of which is the complete opposite of Torah) is nothing but PROSELYTISING BY STEALTH.
Everyone is free to follow the theology of his/her choice. HOWEVER, this is a JEWISH- TORAH forum. If certain individuals are going to insist on the rest of us adhering to heretical, anti-Torah, anti-Jewish BS then they should expect righteous Jews like Muck to challenge them. Muck is absolutely right to do so. All righteous people be they Jew or christian must unite in common cause, but there can be no quarter given to any attempt at proselytizing no matter how subtle or sneaky. NT/ christian doctrine cannot be elevated over Jewish Torah principles.
I seek a clear ruling once and for all.
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I didn't notice this but it's irrelevant: anyone who doesn't have a half-brain to tell right from wrong (in this case, not falling for "stealth proselytizing") is probably just a mindless sheep that would fall for anything.
--- End quote ---
Whether anyone falls for it is not the point. The fact is it's being done. Then when someone challenges it, they get accused of driving wedges. This activity should not be attempted in the first place.
BTW: Nobody IS falling for it.
ftf:
newman, you are incredibly paranoid, you are seeing things that are most definately not there.
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