The Worldwide Crisis of Islam > The Truth About Islam
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newman:
The problem with this argument as far as muslims are cocerned, Zvulun is this:
Unlike christians that claim their faith is an addition and continuation of Judaism, the muslims have made their argument retrospective. They claim that Islam WAS the original faith, but was subsequently perverted
and mohammerhead was sent not to add to or change the original faith, as christians believe, but to get it BACK to it's 'original' form. It is the most gross form of historical revisionism.
Arguing with these people is like trying to argue with holocaust denyers.
Zvulun Ben Moshe:
--- Quote from: newman on July 18, 2007, 03:01:02 AM ---The problem with this argument as far as muslims are cocerned, Zvulun is this:
Unlike christians that claim their faith is an addition and continuation of Judaism, the muslims have made their argument retrospective. They claim that Islam WAS the original faith, but was subsequently perverted
and mohammerhead was sent not to add to or change the original faith, as christians believe, but to get it BACK to it's 'original' form. It is the most gross form of historical revisionism.
Arguing with these people is like trying to argue with holocaust denyers.
--- End quote ---
I understand that, but however you call an elephant, it is still an elephant.
I am not arguing with him. It rather looks like an unequal intellectual slaughter of an illiterate brainwashed guy, who has great doubts about his own belief.
Can you imagine being a part of a fabricated cult? You can bang your head against the wall all you want, but dedicating your whole life to a nightmare of a camel shepherd may very fairly be a valid reason to be confused.
newman:
I understand exactly what that's like. I wasn't born a noachide chassid ( I'll elaborate no further in the interests of diplomacy...but you understand).
My problem with Abdullah is that if he had doubts (and was therefor seeking knowledge) why did he so vigorously engage in taqqiya? When I had doubts about my original faith, I sought out the Chosen People to gain new knowledge.....but I did not do it whilst waving my 'holy' texts in their faces as Abdullah waved his koran in ours.
It was noble and good of you to offer help to him, Zvulun. Unfortunately
the mind warping effects of that cult are so servere that I feel it is virtually impossible to advise them until such time as they are genuinely ready to receive such advice with an open mind and heart.
Sarah:
The use of the word Kaffir or Kuffar can only be done so against the non-believers i.e. idolators.
Jews and Christians should never be called this.
newman:
--- Quote from: Sarah on July 18, 2007, 04:21:21 AM ---The use of the word Kaffir or Kuffar can only be done so against the non-believers i.e. idolators.
Jews and Christians should never be called this.
--- End quote ---
I don't know anything about the islamic context of that word. 'Infidel', however referrs to any non-muslim and they use it to referr to us all the time.
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