During the Crusades in 1099 the Jews single handed defended Haifa

[muman613]

Lewinsky is a greater threat to the survival of Jews today than either Muslim Nazis or theologically anti-Semitic "Christians".

You surely jest... Do not make light of the martyrs who died at the hands of blood-thirsty christians...

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Hence why I said "today".

[serbian army]

My family celebrates one such martyr for many centuries-St. Stephen. He was a young Jewish man who believed that Jesus was Messiah and got killed for it.

[muman613]

My family celebrates one such martyr for many centuries-St. Stephen. He was a young Jewish man who believed that Jesus was Messiah and got killed for it.

And this has to do with the Crusades how?

And is this history or theology? The Crusades are historically accurate. The story of 'st stephen' exists only in the new testament.

Was this stephen an antisemite? It seems to me he was... At least his story in the NT seems to incite Jew hatred.. Also it seems he was like mohamud in a way, twisting stories from the Torah with inconsistent details..

See this and ask whether this man really existed:

Of the numerous speeches in Acts of the Apostles, Stephen's speech to the Sanhedrin is the longest.[6] To the objection that it seems unlikely that such a long speech could be reproduced in the text of Acts exactly as it was delivered, Biblical scholars have replied that Stephen's speech shows a distinctive personality behind it.[4] It has often been observed that there are numerous divergences in Stephen's re-telling of the stories of Israelite history and the scriptures where these stories originated, for instance Stephen says that Jacob's tomb was in Shechem [Acts 7:16], but Genesis 50:13 says Jacob's final resting place was a cave in Machpelah at Hebron.[Acts 8:1][4] There are at least five of these discrepancies, which some scholars have seen as errors, others as deliberate, in order to make specific theological points.[6] Numerous parallels between the accounts of Stephen in Acts and the Jesus of the Gospels - they both perform miracles, they are both tried by the Sanhedrin, they both pray for forgiveness for their killers, for instance - have led to suspicions that the author of Acts has emphasised or invented some or all of these[5] The criticism of traditional Jewish belief and practice in Stephen's speech is very strong - when he says God does not live in a dwelling "made by human hands", referring to the Temple, he is using an expression often employed by Biblical texts to describe idols.[4] The charge of anti-Judaism has been laid against the speech, for instance by the priest and scholar of comparative religion S. G. F. Brandon, who states "The anti-Jewish polemic of this speech reflects the attitude of the author of Acts."[7]

Indeed it seems that your St Stephen was what caused a lot of Christian Jew hatred....

PS: We pray for the restoration of the Holy Temple every day. I think this St Stephen was off his rocker for what he said and hope he is roasting in Gehinnom to this day.

[muman613]

The bloody christian crusades killed thousands and thousands of innocent Jews...


http://www.torah.org/features/holydays/omer2.html

PROPHETIC SUFFERINGS

In the times of the Crusades, there were more tragedies of immense proportions during the sefirah. In 1095 CE, during the sefirah, the Jews of over one hundred Ashkenazic communities were mercilessly massacred by the first Crusade. These included the large communities of the cities of Shair, Worms, and Magenca. In Shabbat prayer services between Passover and Shavuot, special lamentations are added to the liturgy to commemorate these massacres. Also, the prayer "Av HaRachamim," which is said all year round on Shabbat to eulogize Jewish martyrs, was composed primarily as a result of the devastation caused by the first Crusade. In some communities, "Av HaRachamim" is said only during the sefirah.

Fifty years later the second Crusade set out, between Passover and Shavuot. Again, thousands of Jews were massacred. According to Polish Jewish tradition, a special hymn written about this tragedy is to be said in the very beginning of the sefirah -- on the first Shabbat after Passover.

So, too, many of the "transports" to the death camps during the Holocaust were carried out during the sefirah.

Also, every year, the public reading of Parashat Bechukosai falls during the sefirah. It is said in the name of the Vilna Gaon that this was intentional, for this Torah portion prophetically describes the terrible suffering that the Jewish people would have to endure for failing to remain faithful to the Torah. The Sages who lived long before the Crusades, and before the times of Rabbi Akiva, too, instituted the weekly readings. According to the Vilna Gaon, the Sages of old foresaw that the period between Passover and Shavuot would be filled with sadness. Therefore they intentionally scheduled Bechukosai to be read during this period in particular, to clarify to the nation what, in fact, would be the cause for its woes.

[muman613]

"Make for Me a Sanctuary, and I will dwell in their midst" (Ex. 25:8).

http://www.ravkooktorah.org/TERUMA-73.htm

[muman613]

One good thing about 'St Stephen' is the Grateful Dead song about him...

[muman613]

Some other discrepancies in the 'book of acts'...


http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/isaiah53/why-jews-cannot-accept-the-new-testament/

There are also numerous contradictions in the New Testament book of Acts. In chapter 7:51, we are told that the disciple Stephen is “full of the Holy Spirit.” [6]  However, when recounting basic Jewish history, this spirit is non-existent because he contradicts well-known, undisputed facts clearly stated in the Tanach.

Every child who reads a Passover Haggadah knows that the Jews went down to Egypt as a group comprised of 70 people and subsequently became a great nation. This statement appears in the Tanach in three places. “Your fathers went down to Egypt seventy persons in all.” [Deuteronomy 10:22, Exodus 1:5, Genesis 46:27]

It is inconceivable that Stephen, a person described as “full of the Holy Spirit”, would mistakenly state, “…and Joseph sent word and invited Jacob his father and all his relatives to come to him, seventy‑five persons in all.” [Act 7:14]

Moreover, Stephen continues to recount incorrect biblical facts when he states that “Jacob went down to Egypt and there he and our fathers died. From there they were removed to Shechem and laid in the tomb which Abraham had purchased for a sum of money from the sons of Hamor in Shechem.” [Acts 7:16]

Jacob was not buried in Shechem in a cave purchased by Abraham from Hamor. In truth, Jacob was buried in Hebron in a cave bought by Abraham from Ephron. “For his sons carried him (Jacob) into the land of Canaan, and buried him in the cave of the field of Machpelah, [7] the field that Abraham bought as a burial plot from Ephron…” [Genesis 50:13]

Once again, we see that Stephen was obviously not filled with divine inspiration when he got his basic facts confused. In fact, it was Joseph who was buried in Shechem [Joshua 24:32] in a field purchased by Jacob from Emmor.  [Genesis 33:19]

http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=83:which-version-of-stephenss-acts-7-speech-is-correct&catid=53:disciples&Itemid=491

[muman613]

Im sorry Serbian Army... But I don't think that comparing St Stephen to those innocent Jews killed in the crusades is a valid comparison. And if you were attempting to justify the murder of 1000s of Jews because of what is supposed to have happened in one of the most antisemitic parts of the New Testament then you will not get away with it.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

Not sure what you mean? Who is the us? Why no Israel or no America?

By "us" I mean the Zionists, also, if it wasn't for the Jews, there would be no United States of America. If it wasn't for the U.S.,Great Britain, and others, there would be no Israel. Imo.

[Binyamin Yisrael]

Muslims say Joseph was buried in Hebron and built a structure on the original Herodian walls surrounding the Cave of the Machpelah which they call "Joseph's Tomb". Maybe they got misinformation from the Steven moron. That Steven is no better than the one from Germany (Weigang).

[Super Mentalita]

Im sorry Serbian Army... But I don't think that comparing St Stephen to those innocent Jews killed in the crusades is a valid comparison. And if you were attempting to justify the murder of 1000s of Jews because of what is supposed to have happened in one of the most antisemitic parts of the New Testament then you will not get away with it.

Let's make a Christian Topic? So Christians and Jews can not offens eachother? Seperate people, am i right? Our own religions are much more important then the thread of Islam? Don't you think?

[Binyamin Yisrael]

By "us" I mean the Zionists, also, if it wasn't for the Jews, there would be no United States of America. If it wasn't for the U.S.,Great Britain, and others, there would be no Israel. Imo.

   

America was based on Biblical principles and the American federal government structure with its division of powers is based on Biblical Israel. Jews financed the American Revolution. America is New Israel for Gentiles escaping Europe and many place names were given names of Biblical locations.

But Israel would exist regardless of America. Truman was President in 1948. He was not a friend of Israel. I think Kennedy and Reagan were the best regarding Israel. Kennedy's brother was killed by a Jordanian Nazi. Nowadays the assassin would be called a Fakestinian but back then no one ever heard of such a people. The assassin from Judea and Samaria was just called a Jordanian immigrant to the US.

[Nachus]

                                                                                                                                               

  This should serve as an inspiration. Jews should be like these great warriors that lived in Biblical times and fought
  and won great battles against their enemies!

[Binyamin Yisrael]

                                                                                                                                               

  This should serve as an inspiration. Jews should be like these great warriors that lived in Biblical times and fought
  and won great battles against their enemies!

How is 1099 C.E. Biblical times?

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

Lewinsky is a greater threat to the survival of Jews today than either Muslim Nazis or theologically anti-Semitic "Christians".

 

[Nachus]

 
                                                                                                                                               

Then in more recent ancient history, the Jews were certainly more brave and noble than what you have now!

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Im sorry Serbian Army... But I don't think that comparing St Stephen to those innocent Jews killed in the crusades is a valid comparison. And if you were attempting to justify the murder of 1000s of Jews because of what is supposed to have happened in one of the most antisemitic parts of the New Testament then you will not get away with it.

Where was he justifying killing Jews?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

 

When Muslims or anti-Semitic Christians tell Lewinsky to jump, he asks "how high". His entire life revolves around getting down on his knees and servicing Nazi Jew-haters like Clinton and Obama. He has the military force to defeat all the world's anti-Semites but instead surrenders to them.

[serbian army]

I find it very unwise to insult the first Saint of Christian Church. We will never know why Mumam feels so much insecure when having discussion about religious beliefs of others? Because of his insecurity he jumps to insult everyone else. Is this helping Jews in any way or was it ever helping Jews?
You must know who you are and what you stand for but without cowardly attacking those different than you. Personally I don't hate any religion until members of that religion interfere with my well being or well being of my people and try to oppress us.
I had situation where a moderate muslim gave me their holy book to read. Was I too friendly with him or was I pretending to be his great friend? No, I was just respectful to him and indeed read some of verses in their book after which I passed it to some muslim because I did not want to destroy the gift. 

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

 
                                                                                                                                               

Then in more recent ancient history, the Jews were certainly more brave and noble than what you have now!

 Many Jews are brave and noble in today's age. I find this offensive.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

I find it very unwise to insult the first Saint of Christian Church. We will never know why Mumam feels so much insecure when having discussion about religious beliefs of others? Because of his insecurity he jumps to insult everyone else. Is this helping Jews in any way or was it ever helping Jews?
You must know who you are and what you stand for but without cowardly attacking those different than you. Personally I don't hate any religion until members of that religion interfere with my well being or well being of my people and try to oppress us.
I had situation where a moderate muslim gave me their holy book to read. Was I too friendly with him or was I pretending to be his great friend? No, I was just respectful to him and indeed read some of verses in their book after which I passed it to some muslim because I did not want to destroy the gift.

It might have something to do with Jews being slaughtered in the name of Jesus, and thousands of Jews being lost to forced conversions...
Jesus would be pissed at what the Church has become...

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

Many Jews are brave and noble in today's age. I find this offensive.

Really?

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

Care to find out?

I was talking about the offended part.

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

Really?

 Yes, really. Just because their are some problems with politics (especially with the whole world hating on Am Yisrael) doesn't mean their aren't many brave and noble Jews today in Israel (and outside as well).