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Offline Dr. Dan

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If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« on: July 16, 2007, 10:33:22 AM »
There was a question asked that if that were to happen, the Arabs would turn against the Jews and drop a bomb to wipe us all out, Gd forbid.

It is predicted that all nations will turn against Israel...But on that day when they try to destroy us, Gd will show Himself and save us..and then whole world will know Who Hashem is...that will usher in the moshiach.
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Re: If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2007, 10:40:02 AM »
yes i agree
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Re: If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2007, 10:42:06 AM »
That is a real fear that I've heard some Jews express. ALL the Jews in one small country making it easier for the next genocide attempt.......
 ..........it's hard the overcome that fear with some.
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Re: If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2007, 12:10:20 PM »
Quote from: newman on July 16, 2007, 10:42:06 AM
That is a real fear that I've heard some Jews express. ALL the Jews in one small country making it easier for the next genocide attempt.......
 ..........it's hard the overcome that fear with some.


It's hard to convince rational and scientific people to put all their faith in Gd.  If that day were to come that all nations decided to attack little Israel and all Jews living insdie there, it would be quite amazing if their attempts were stopped and everyone saw it as an act of Gd.  Just like what happened to the Egyptians and the slaved Israelites!
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Re: If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2007, 12:14:47 PM »
Quote from: dannycookie57 on July 16, 2007, 10:33:22 AM
There was a question asked that if that were to happen, the Arabs would turn against the Jews and drop a bomb to wipe us all out, Gd forbid.

It is predicted that all nations will turn against Israel...But on that day when they try to destroy us, Gd will show Himself and save us..and then whole world will know Who Hashem is...that will usher in the moshiach.
Of course, that is what G-d says, it is true.
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Re: If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2007, 02:30:15 AM »
Quote from: dannycookie57 on July 16, 2007, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: newman on July 16, 2007, 10:42:06 AM
That is a real fear that I've heard some Jews express. ALL the Jews in one small country making it easier for the next genocide attempt.......
 ..........it's hard the overcome that fear with some.


It's hard to convince rational and scientific people to put all their faith in Gd.  If that day were to come that all nations decided to attack little Israel and all Jews living insdie there, it would be quite amazing if their attempts were stopped and everyone saw it as an act of Gd.  Just like what happened to the Egyptians and the slaved Israelites!

The Bolsheviks would first need to give up control of the government or else they'd end up surrendering before any potential attack were to occur.
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Re: If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2007, 05:01:03 AM »
Um....would all the Jews even be able to fit in Israel, or will the entire middle east be conquered by the Jews?
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Re: If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2007, 05:57:48 AM »
Jews have no interest in taking over the entire mid east. The land they presently have including 'west bank' and gaza is big enough for all the Jews.

BTW: Biblical Greater Israel actually encompasses Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, parts of Saudi and Iraq.....but the Jews ( being nice guys) are prepared to forego that land for now in the interests of peace.
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Re: If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2007, 05:59:06 AM »
Quote from: newman on July 17, 2007, 05:57:48 AM
Jews have no interest in taking over the entire mid east. The land they presently have including 'west bank' and gaza is big enough for all the Jews.

BTW: Biblical Greater Israel actually encompasses Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, parts of Saudi and Iraq.....but the Jews ( being nice guys) are prepared to forego that land for now in the interests of peace.
  :-\How many Jews are there in the World, are you sure it is big enough how it is?

Overcrowding will lead to problems.
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Re: If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2007, 06:00:30 AM »
If we really needed to, Israel could fit all of the Jews in the entire world into pre-1967 Israel.  The Galilee and the Negev have lots of open space, no problem.
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Re: If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2007, 06:08:42 AM »
Quote from: newman on July 17, 2007, 05:57:48 AM
BTW: Biblical Greater Israel actually encompasses Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, parts of Saudi and Iraq.....but the Jews ( being nice guys) are prepared to forego that land for now in the interests of peace.

Only short term - tactically. Eventually, we must have it, of course.
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Re: If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2007, 06:12:23 AM »
Quote from: Masha on July 17, 2007, 06:08:42 AM
Quote from: newman on July 17, 2007, 05:57:48 AM
BTW: Biblical Greater Israel actually encompasses Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, parts of Saudi and Iraq.....but the Jews ( being nice guys) are prepared to forego that land for now in the interests of peace.

Only short term - tactically. Eventually, we must have it, of course.

I agree, Masha but let's not give hysterical anti-semites any ammo. (PS: I don't mean you, Sarah) :)
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Re: If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2007, 07:42:27 AM »
Quote from: Sarah on July 17, 2007, 05:01:03 AM
Um....would all the Jews even be able to fit in Israel, or will the entire middle east be conquered by the Jews?


THe borders that Gd allows for Jews to have according to the Bible is the Nile to the Euphrates.  Commentaries have suggested that the Jews cannot have all of the territories all at once because the number of Jewish people are sparce and that wild animals will be a constant danger to the small population in those areas.  There are other commentaries besides that.

Secondly, the Jewish population is so small today that having the whole middle east would make no sense.  Gd will only give us what we need and what is adequate.
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Re: If al Jews lived in Eretz Yisrael
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2007, 07:47:22 AM »
Still...........when B'nai Yisroel reclaim all that desert, they'll be able to grow a helluva lot of olive trees and the like. With the growing market for bio- fuel, all that land could come in handy.

I bet they'd also prefer wild animals to muslims. :laugh:
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