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Look at this conversation I'm having with a sick, anti-Zionist self-hating Jew.
« on: July 16, 2007, 11:07:14 PM »
This fall I'm attending law school and there's a facebook group for the future class of '10 students.  of course 95% of these students are left-wing as can be.  I noticed that there was a Jew in the group, and I decided to initiate contact with him.  I saw on his facebook profile that he is supportive of Hillary Clinton so I decided to look out for one of my brothers and inform him of Hillary Clinton's Jew hatred.  I thought he would be receptive to my message but instead he came at me with a hostile and hateful attitude that only a self-hating Kike could produce against a fellow Jew. 

Here's my message:

"Hello, you know that Hillary Clinton is an Jew-Hater right? If the Clinton plan for Israel went through, it would have made Israel's borders 6-10 miles wide at the smallest point. They demanded that Israel give up the Golan Heights, a geographical area that is crucial for defense against Syria. In that plan, they even demanded that Israel pull back from PRE-1967 areas. Even Israeli leftists at that time including the foreign minister of the socialist party said that the Clinton plan was a program of national suicide. This is the program for Israel that Hillary Clinton will pursue if she becomes the President.

Hillary Clinton in the 1980s gave a 25,000 contribution to the PLO when they were openly calling for the destruction of Israel. When Clinton ran for congress in Arkansas, she called his campaign manager a "filthy Jew bastard". The campaign manager was a gentile from Arkansas. She has been know to kneejerkedly call people "Jew bastards" who aren't even Jewish. She even called her own husband a Jew bastard to the Arkansas state troopers. When Dick Morris, who successfully ran Clinton's 1996 campaign asked for a raise, she said to him "is that all you people care about".

I'm not trying to tell you who you should vote for but I just wanted to let you know what Hillary Clinton has done."

And here is his response.

"You probably could have saved yourself the trouble of sending me this message if you actually knew me. Since you don't, let me enlighten you, I am anti-Zionist, as I imagine most self-proclaimed Libertarians are.

As for her wanting Israel to give up the Golan Heights, I assume you are aware of Israel's refusal to conform to U.N. resolutions 242 and 338 from 1967 requiring Israel to withdraw from those lands. These would be the same sort of U.N. resolutions that we used as part of our justification to invade Iraq. Although I suppose the U.S. should only concern itself with its enemies not obeying U.N. resolutions. Now if you are telling me that Hillary has a plan that actual hopes to achieve a lasting peace in the Middle East, that excites me even more. After all, that is far superior to the current administration whose only lasting contribution to the Middle East will have been the creation of breeding grounds for the exact type of terrorists who try and succeed in killing children in Israel.

About Hillary making those comments, it is absurd to make the blanket statement that she is an anti-Semite because of stray comments she has used in the past in the course of private conversation. I challenge you to tell me you yourself have never used words or statements that could possibly be construed as racist or offensive to a particular group."
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"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris

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Re: Look at this conversation I'm having with a sick, anti-Zionist self-hating Jew.
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2007, 11:27:11 PM »
Libertarian my ass. This jerk is a communist.
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Re: Look at this conversation I'm having with a sick, anti-Zionist self-hating J
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2007, 11:30:36 PM »
He's also a new world order kook that thinks that UN "law" is more important than what's right or what is necessary for his own people.

He's the sort of person who would let Israel be destroyed if the UN wanted it so, which they do.
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"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris

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Re: Look at this conversation I'm having with a sick, anti-Zionist self-hating Jew.
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2007, 11:35:19 PM »
Have you explained that the majority in the UN are despots, dictators and canibals with Oxford accents.
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2007, 12:48:37 AM »
This is what he posted a bit later.  He just had this attitude the entire time that I was his total enemy, a very hostile attitude.  He is a vicious and caustic person.  Well I'm happy that I found out who he really was sooner or later.  I'm not gonna say a word to this schmuck when I see him.

"I can't continue this with you, it is just too absurd. You justify your own racist comments by saying they were joking or situational, but then selectively take a few comments made by Hillary Clinton in the past and declare her to be an rabid anti-Semite and an enemy of the Jewish People. For you to even say that the comment "nappy-headed hoe" doesn't compare to "jew bastard" reveals to me that you are a racist. I would also be concerned about Giuliani being a racist anti-Semite given his support of someone who called the NAACP the "National Association for Retarded People" at a rally in favor of the Confederate Flag. This would be someone who made the comments to reporters on the record, as well. Not someone making "joking" comments in private. And I will guarantee you the majority of the people at the confederate flag rally were legitimate anti-Semites. You can write back to get the last word in, but it will be pointless. You can do nothing to prove your point except point to isolated incidents that occurred in private, incidents that you yourself have admittedly committed as well."
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"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris

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Re: Look at this conversation I'm having with a sick, anti-Zionist self-hating J
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2007, 12:54:27 AM »
Quote from: newman on July 16, 2007, 11:35:19 PM
Have you explained that the majority in the UN are despots, dictators and canibals with Oxford accents.

I'm not going to bother talking to him anymore.  He called me a racist because I said that you cannot compare the joking "nappy-headed hoe" comment to an aggressive and vicious condemnation of "F-ing Jew bastard" which was a comment that Clinton has made in similar situations and in similar ways.  This guy is a clown.  He labeled me a racist just because I said that the comments were different, but yet he said that to call Clinton an anti-Semite for saying "f-ing Jew bastard" is absurd.  The degree of lying that he is willing to do to himself just to defend his favorite little anti-Semitic candidate is insane.   
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"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris

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Re: Look at this conversation I'm having with a sick, anti-Zionist self-hating Jew.
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2007, 01:08:35 AM »
He would have voted for the fuhrer (ys"vz) if he lived in Germany in 1932.
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Re: Look at this conversation I'm having with a sick, anti-Zionist self-hating J
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2007, 01:50:33 AM »
Quote from: Ze'ev Jabotinsky on July 16, 2007, 11:07:14 PM
This fall I'm attending law school and there's a facebook group for the future class of '10 students.  of course 95% of these students are left-wing as can be.  I noticed that there was a Jew in the group, and I decided to initiate contact with him.  I saw on his facebook profile that he is supportive of Hillary Clinton so I decided to look out for one of my brothers and inform him of Hillary Clinton's Jew hatred.  I thought he would be receptive to my message but instead he came at me with a hostile and hateful attitude that only a self-hating Kike could produce against a fellow Jew. 

Here's my message:

"Hello, you know that Hillary Clinton is an Jew-Hater right? If the Clinton plan for Israel went through, it would have made Israel's borders 6-10 miles wide at the smallest point. They demanded that Israel give up the Golan Heights, a geographical area that is crucial for defense against Syria. In that plan, they even demanded that Israel pull back from PRE-1967 areas. Even Israeli leftists at that time including the foreign minister of the socialist party said that the Clinton plan was a program of national suicide. This is the program for Israel that Hillary Clinton will pursue if she becomes the President.

Hillary Clinton in the 1980s gave a 25,000 contribution to the PLO when they were openly calling for the destruction of Israel. When Clinton ran for congress in Arkansas, she called his campaign manager a "filthy Jew bastard". The campaign manager was a gentile from Arkansas. She has been know to kneejerkedly call people "Jew bastards" who aren't even Jewish. She even called her own husband a Jew bastard to the Arkansas state troopers. When Dick Morris, who successfully ran Clinton's 1996 campaign asked for a raise, she said to him "is that all you people care about".

I'm not trying to tell you who you should vote for but I just wanted to let you know what Hillary Clinton has done."

And here is his response.

"You probably could have saved yourself the trouble of sending me this message if you actually knew me. Since you don't, let me enlighten you, I am anti-Zionist, as I imagine most self-proclaimed Libertarians are.

As for her wanting Israel to give up the Golan Heights, I assume you are aware of Israel's refusal to conform to U.N. resolutions 242 and 338 from 1967 requiring Israel to withdraw from those lands. These would be the same sort of U.N. resolutions that we used as part of our justification to invade Iraq. Although I suppose the U.S. should only concern itself with its enemies not obeying U.N. resolutions. Now if you are telling me that Hillary has a plan that actual hopes to achieve a lasting peace in the Middle East, that excites me even more. After all, that is far superior to the current administration whose only lasting contribution to the Middle East will have been the creation of breeding grounds for the exact type of terrorists who try and succeed in killing children in Israel.

About Hillary making those comments, it is absurd to make the blanket statement that she is an anti-Semite because of stray comments she has used in the past in the course of private conversation. I challenge you to tell me you yourself have never used words or statements that could possibly be construed as racist or offensive to a particular group."


Be a little more specific by telling the person how the Clintons wanted to force Israel to also give up part of Jerusalem. 


Maybe you should also show the following to the person:

http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/hillarSy.htm

But since the person hates Israel, it would probably serve a better purpose to send it to those who actually want to learn.  Probably better to find other Jews who support Hillary or Barack Osama and tell them that they're making a mistake by supporting either one.


Considering how Congress gives itself a raise for doing a bad job, I think Dick Morris deserved one from the Clintons--he definitely contributed to Bill's campaign strategy. 
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Re: Look at this conversation I'm having with a sick, anti-Zionist self-hating J
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2007, 01:51:20 AM »
On a related note, I don't understand how an irrational fool like that person is able to get into a law school. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2007, 01:52:57 AM »
Quote from: Ze'ev Jabotinsky on July 16, 2007, 11:30:36 PM
He's also a new world order kook that thinks that UN "law" is more important than what's right or what is necessary for his own people.

He's the sort of person who would let Israel be destroyed if the UN wanted it so, which they do.

Like Bill Richardson. 

If libertarians tend to think like him, then they definitely contradict themselves.  They're supposed to be in favor of small government but the UN represents a global government.
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2007, 02:03:14 AM »
Quote from: RationalThought110 on July 17, 2007, 01:51:20 AM
On a related note, I don't understand how an irrational fool like that person is able to get into a law school. 

Telling him about what Hillary Clinton wants to do with Israel is pointless. I wouldn't be surprised if he supports the dismantling of a Jewish state He might support a bi-national, or a two state solution, but he definitely believes that accommodating the Muslim Nazis will create a "lasting peace" because according to him the Bush Administration has created a safe haven for terrorists.  As if there weren't Muslim Nazis before the Bush administration.  I mean this guy is kookoo.

I don't believe that libertarians tend to put so much faith in the UN.  They want to cut down the size of their own government, not put themselves under a new world order supranational government.  This kid is just confused, I mean he's a walking contradiction.  He's a "Jew" but self-hating and anti-Zionist, he's a "Libertarian" but supports Hillary Clinton and then de facto a national health care plan, he's a "law" student but he's extremely illogical. 

As for how people like this can get into law school, I don't know because one of the requirements is to take the LSAT which requires good logical reasoning skills.   
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"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris

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Re: Look at this conversation I'm having with a sick, anti-Zionist self-hating Jew.
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2007, 05:31:21 AM »
Good luck in Law School, with these people, you're going to need it.
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2007, 05:45:04 AM »
Hey Ze'ev,

Isn't there some Talmudic thing about that?......"Great is he who [censored]-slaps the self-hater".....?
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2007, 06:32:46 AM »
Hehe, unfortunately there isn't.  That would be fantastic though.  I was going to threaten him to call me a racist to my face when I get to school but I hesitated and restrained myself.  I know that coward wouldn't call me a racist to my face and if he did I would beat that little slimeball.
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"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris

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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2007, 06:37:02 AM »
Did you hear Chaims story about the Maccabees cleaning house with all the self-haters and traitors before they got stuck into the Greeks?
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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2007, 06:43:05 AM »
No, I didn't.  Do you remember what episode it was, I'll download it on the archives.
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"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris

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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2007, 06:48:14 AM »
No idea what date...... ask him to repeat the story. It needs to be told over and over again and heard by all because it contains great morals for our time. Not just about Torah observance but also about how we can't fight an external enemy without 'fixing' the internal traitors first.
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Re: Look at this conversation I'm having with a sick, anti-Zionist self-hating Jew.
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2007, 09:08:52 AM »
Tell him to hump a camel
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2007, 09:19:57 AM »
Most "real" self-proclaimed libertarians advocate complete withdrawal from the middle-east and going isolationist. This guy on the other hand supports Israel giving away everything. This leads me to believe he's a far-leftist. Most libertarians are extremely anti-religious. This guy prolly feels that taking sides against his fellow Jews will make him "one of the boys" with the libertarians. He's very very wrong.

Hillary Clinton has advocated the most big government expansion of any candidate in perhaps American history. You'd be hard pressed to find many libertarians who support her, but this animal seems to.
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Re: Look at this conversation I'm having with a sick, anti-Zionist self-hating Jew.
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2007, 11:00:00 AM »
Boy the Jews are the worst enemy of the Jewish people. Are you sure you didnt talk to the kike Adam Shapiro?
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2007, 11:04:19 AM »
Quote from: cosmokramer on July 17, 2007, 11:00:00 AM
Boy the Jews are the worst enemy of the Jewish people. Are you sure you didnt talk to the kike Adam Shapiro?

Rabbi Benjamin Blech says that. He reckons it takes a Jew to be a REAL anti-semite. Carl Marx is a good example as is Shapiro.
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2007, 11:38:50 AM »
Quote from: cosmokramer on July 17, 2007, 11:00:00 AM
Boy the Jews are the worst enemy of the Jewish people. Are you sure you didnt talk to the kike Adam Shapiro?

Ain't that the truth.  I honestly feel like I was insulted and disrespected by this self-hating Kike more than almost anyone I've spoken to in my entire life.  I've had StormFronters and Muslims Nazis act in a more respectful and courteous manner than this piece of pig excrement. 
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"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris

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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2007, 11:48:45 AM »
Listen to the "MUST HEAR...sick Jewish guilt " 15 second bite from Chaim:

http://masada2000.somebodyhelpme.info/JTF-Audios.html
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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2007, 08:57:27 AM »
Quote from: newman on July 17, 2007, 06:37:02 AM
Did you hear Chaims story about the Maccabees cleaning house with all the self-haters and traitors before they got stuck into the Greeks?

What do you mean by stuck into the Greeks?
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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2007, 11:57:01 AM »
Quote from: RationalThought110 on July 18, 2007, 08:57:27 AM
Quote from: newman on July 17, 2007, 06:37:02 AM
Did you hear Chaims story about the Maccabees cleaning house with all the self-haters and traitors before they got stuck into the Greeks?

What do you mean by stuck into the Greeks?

Attack. In Aussie language, 'getting stuck into' or 'sticking it up' someone means attack.
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