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I guess they support civil rights except the civil rights of freedom of religion in the First Ammendment.

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Freedom of Conscience Defense Fund (FCDF) Defends "Jews Offering New Alternatives for Healing" (JONAH) -- Targeted for Helping People with Unwanted Same Sex Attractions

December 19, 2012 -- The Freedom of Conscience Defense Fund (FCDF) announced today that it has accepted the role of lead defense counsel for Jews Offering New Alternatives for Healing(JONAH) in a precedent-setting lawsuit. FCDF is a national public interest law firm that represents people whose freedom of conscience has come under attack. JONAH is a faith-based, nonprofit organization that offers assistance to men and women seeking to resolve their sexual conflicts,including unwanted same sex attractions.

JONAH has been unjustly sued by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) who claims that homosexuality is permanently fixed and that people cannot be helped in overcoming their unwanted same-sex attractions.

SPLC 's position is inconsistent with numerous scientific and medical opinions and studies, finding that sexual attraction is influenced by many factors, both environmental and biological. Even certain gay activist groups claim that sexual attractions can be fluid and change throughout people’s lives. SPLC's allegations also ignore the thousands of people who have already benefitted from programs,such as those offered by JONAH and others, many of whom are now living their life long dreams,including traditional marriage and children.

Charles LiMandri, the President and Chief Counsel of the FCDF, stated, “The SPLC lawsuit is ill-conceived and legally untenable for multiple reasons. It seeks to violate the First Amendment freedoms of speech, religion and association not only of JONAH and the other defendants, but also untold numbers of people in need that stand to benefit from their services."

For over twelve years, JONAH has helped hundreds of people live the lives that they want,consistent with their personal values. JONAH’s mission is to give all people the opportunity to explore their internal conflicts around sexuality and other values in a caring, non-judgmental environment.

JONAH has never been the target of a lawsuit until now, and this lawsuit is apparently the result of SPLC advertising in the media for people willing to be named as plaintiffs against JONAH. SPLC's lawsuit seeks to deprive men and women who experience unwanted same sex attractions of the opportunity to explore and resolve these attractions so that they can live healthier and happier lives consistent with their own personal values. “It is the height of intolerance and arrogance for the SPLC to dictate to individuals who experience unwanted same sex attraction and who are seeking help, that they are not entitled to receive such help nor support in a way that respects their personal values,” LiMandri stated: “JONAH and the other defendants will be vigorously defended against these baseless claims to protect not only their Constitutional rights, but also the right of self-determination of all those who wish to resolve their unwanted same sex attractions.”

FCDF is being assisted in this precedent-setting case, which was filed in New Jersey, by local counsel Michael Laffey. Mr. Laffey is a highly respected New Jersey attorney who is experienced in freedom of speech and religious liberty cases.

About Freedom of Conscience Defense Fund (FCDF)

Led by Chief Counsel Charles LiMandri, the Freedom of Conscience Defense Fund (FCDF)specializes in defending consciences properly formed in moral principles by providing legal services at the trial level. As the United States continues its rapid moral decline, real threats to our religious freedom are increasing exponentially. FCDF is prepared to engage legal, legislative, and cultural issues on behalf of people of faith by implementing an effective strategy of advocacy, education, and litigation.

As a result of increasing attacks on religious freedom, many persons of conscience have meritorious claims for harassment, defamation, and discrimination. With his decades of experience in this area,Charles LiMandri has been selected to head up a joint strike team comprised of the FCDF and Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), which is making available its nationwide network of thousands of attorneys to assist in these cases at the local level under Mr. LiMandri's direct supervision.

The assault on religious liberty, traditional family values and human life is prompting people of faith to step up in strong defense of their inalienable rights. To learn more about FCDF or to support its work, please visit www.ConscienceDefense.org.

For more information on this lawsuit, please contact us at [email protected]


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Re: The Southern Poverty Law Center sues Jews Healing Homosexuality.
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2013, 12:57:51 AM »
No wonder people hate the SPLC.... They are a bunch of neo-fascists trying to impose their gayness on others. It makes me sick to think people like those who do the dirty work of the SPLC actually breath the same air as normal people.

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Re: The Southern Poverty Law Center sues Jews Healing Homosexuality.
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2013, 08:50:18 AM »
What how can you say homosexuality is not  a choice. That is ridiculous. Whats next we need to defend murderers because

"claims that murderous tendencies are permanently fixed and that people cannot be helped in overcoming their unwanted murderous activities."

I love how homosexuality is the only thing that people have to try to lie about to show that it is not a choice. Numerous studies have also shown that homosexuality is a choice and can be changed.  Lol can you imagine if homos were trying to make straights gay (which they do) and had an organization for it

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Re: The Southern Poverty Law Center sues Jews Healing Homosexuality.
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2013, 06:58:22 PM »
Leftists also say it's a choice. They say fags have the rights to choose whatever they want to do. Yet they also say it the other way around. What fags!


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Re: The Southern Poverty Law Center sues Jews Healing Homosexuality.
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2013, 10:51:23 PM »
Chaim should do a video on this topic.


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Re: The Southern Poverty Law Center sues Jews Healing Homosexuality.
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2013, 06:28:25 PM »
Only science will be able to cure homosexuality.  I don't agree with the lawsuit, but prayer and religion won't be effective.  But one day, science (through some kind of genetic manipulation of the brain) may offer homosexuals a real way out. 

I oppose gay rights and marriage because the more homosexuality is "normalized," the less likely it will be that science will allocate resources to find a real cure.

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Re: The Southern Poverty Law Center sues Jews Healing Homosexuality.
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2013, 06:42:22 PM »
Only science will be able to cure homosexuality.  I don't agree with the lawsuit, but prayer and religion won't be effective.  But one day, science (through some kind of genetic manipulation of the brain) may offer homosexuals a real way out. 

I oppose gay rights and marriage because the more homosexuality is "normalized," the less likely it will be that science will allocate resources to find a real cure.

Sounds like you worship 'science' and do not trust in the greatness of the human spirit (create by G-d to struggle with challenges). From my perspective that is sad. I do not trust in science, as the same science which you suggest could influence sexual attraction can also be used to increase homosexual attraction. Science is a tool in the hands of man, while Hashems will is the ultimate truth. Without Hashem there is no reason not to be homosexual. Who are they 'hurting'? Why do you care what people do in the privacy of their own home?




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Re: The Southern Poverty Law Center sues Jews Healing Homosexuality.
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2013, 07:02:33 PM »
I sometimes wonder if half the gays are really even gay, or if they are brainwashed or just being rebellious...
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Re: The Southern Poverty Law Center sues Jews Healing Homosexuality.
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2013, 07:10:59 PM »
Only science will be able to cure homosexuality.  I don't agree with the lawsuit, but prayer and religion won't be effective.  But one day, science (through some kind of genetic manipulation of the brain) may offer homosexuals a real way out. 

I oppose gay rights and marriage because the more homosexuality is "normalized," the less likely it will be that science will allocate resources to find a real cure.


You missed the point. The Jewish organization I mentioned supports treating homosexuality through therapy. It's like Michelle Bachman said something similar.

Their website states that they help people with unwanted same sex attraction to be cured. I don't think they actually go and prosletytize to homosexuals to get them to be heterosexual. If at all, they would probably try to help their fellow Jews like Chabad tries to do outreach to non-religious Jews.


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Re: The Southern Poverty Law Center sues Jews Healing Homosexuality.
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2013, 07:21:17 PM »
I sometimes wonder if half the gays are really even gay, or if they are brainwashed or just being rebellious...

I think its a combination of that and also narcissism, poor familial relationships, and impulse disorder(which would probably be the best way to treat it). Homosexuality is a learned behavior that's why prisoners start sexing each other up who once considered themseves heterosexuals