Was the Iraq war a great thing?

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

 Would like to discuss the implications of the Iraq war and ask was it or was it not a good thing in the long run?
  Do you think that Bush really thought their were weapons of mass destruction or was his intentions to have a splitt within Iraq soo the Sunnis and Shits fight each-other there instead of taking the war to the West (in a way like its happening in Syria now thank G-D). Did the war in Syria shift the battlefield from Iraq to Syria instead? What's going on in Iraq nowadays?

[Binyamin Yisrael]

It was horrible. American soldiers died to defend Muslims against other Muslims. And that led to Liberals blaming all Conservatives and the election of Obama.

[serbian army]

That war was total financial disaster but the day has not come yet when we need to pay back in full monies borrowed to finance that war. Aside from money the image of US in many countries has come down drastically. America shifted from one of the most admired countries to one of the most hated ones. Maybe that is surprise to some who never held American passport at any international airport.
If you think that situation in Syria or Egypt is benefiting Israel think again about long term benefits. Lets say Assad falls and muslim brotherhood takes over, in such case Israel will be surrounded by unstable governments, millions of fanatics in possession of sophisticated weapons and who are also members of new regime. Those maniacs will now have airplanes, tanks, missiles, helicopters and so on to attack. 

[angryChineseKahanist]

No.
It was a waste of time.
But since it was started, it should have been won and then we should have left.
Instead, we decided to loose and just live there.

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

That war was total financial disaster but the day has not come yet when we need to pay back in full monies borrowed to finance that war. Aside from money the image of US in many countries has come down drastically. America shifted from one of the most admired countries to one of the most hated ones. Maybe that is surprise to some who never held American passport at any international airport.
If you think that situation in Syria or Egypt is benefiting Israel think again about long term benefits. Lets say Assad falls and muslim brotherhood takes over, in such case Israel will be surrounded by unstable governments, millions of fanatics in possession of sophisticated weapons and who are also members of new regime. Those maniacs will now have airplanes, tanks, missiles, helicopters and so on to attack.

 Egypt bad, in Syria I mean them just sending in more people (both sides) and fighting each other hopefully as long as possible.

[edu]

If the USA had limited its objectives to punishing Iraq and getting rid of Sadaam Hussein and not be involved in "Democracy Building" then a short war would have provided some political benefits.
But the "Democracy Building" project of George Bush was bad for the USA economy, weakened the USA's will to fight more needed battles and was bad for Israel, since Bush also pressured Israel into making concessions under his "Democracy Building" program.

[syyuge]

It would have been best if muslamic infighting would have been encouraged everywhere  and low key supports to both sides were provided at all such places, so as to allow them fighting within themselves till their own end. At least now at Syria, they are doing good so far, I mean intensive war may continue in Syria without the fall of Assad till it all converts in to ruins. Assad is an asset and shall not be overthrown till the last muslamic remains within Syria. And after that there will be no need to overthrow him.

[serbian army]

Egypt bad, in Syria I mean them just sending in more people (both sides) and fighting each other hopefully as long as possible.

Millions were dead in Iraq-Iran war and how much did that weakened muslim world? I don't think many of you realize ( Ashe Dina understands) that Israel is being set up by this administration. This administration has given 20 f16s and 200 modern tanks to muslim brotherhood determined to destroy Israel. Now you have country of 70 million armed with modern American weapons led by muslim fanatics. Just to explain how much of support in weapons it is, we the Serbs are trying to buy some mid level airplanes from Russians for years but we don't know how to pay for 4, read again 4, stinking fighter jets and muslim brotherhood got the best weapons there is. 
Assad currently can't do harm to Israel, but just wait until one side wins and becomes armed with sophisticated Russian missiles, have entire nation instead of small armed groups challenging Israelis who for now have some control over situation. 

[Sveta]

It was bad, and it also ruined people's willingness to go against war with the real danger, which is Iran. Because of the incredibly unpopular Iraq war, the public will be reluctant to support combat against Iran. Iran was the real enemy. On the plus side, Hussein got deposed. But overall, the Iraq war was useless. I have nothing against the soldiers who have fought it, they did it because it is their job, but quite honestly- how are them in Iraq fighting for my freedom? I hear it all the time "US soldiers fighting for our freedom". They sure did in WW2 but in Iraq?

[syyuge]

After the decimation of taliban at Afghanistan, it was the original plan of Nato to destroy the real culprit i.e. pakistan666. However the pakistani leadership went on to kiss the feet of the Saudi Kingdom, who in turn somehow convinced the Nato that Iraq was the most plausible and justifiable target at the moment. So pakistan survived for a few more years.   

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

  Do you think Bush's intentions were to carry the fight over there instead of the fight being taken to the U.S. and to the West. Also the U.S. does and will have more Bases in the region. Perhaps he (and others) see a greater war between the West and Islam they just couldn't and didn't say it openly because of political reasons but in the long run they see that places like Iraq need to be occupied both physically and with the focus being over there instead of the terrorists coming to the U.S. instead (although as we have seen with the Boston Bombers it isn't perfect the whole time yett the number of attacks are down and very low compared to what they could have and what they did on 9/11).

[muman613]

Let me step into the fire and say I think it was a good thing. Or at least it was not a bad thing...

There are many, many evil arab governments in the region. Mr Saddam was a particularly bad brand of evil. He spoke a big act, but he had provoked the attack on Kuwait, and I remember seeing this action as the act of a Hitler-type who had boldly threatened Israel. Saddam did fire rockets and missiles into Israel during the First Gulf war.

I am still of the belief that Iraq did have chemical weapons at some time, and while they never found enough to make a case, there were some chemical agents which were found. And it is also believed, by many in the intelligence agencies, that much of Iraqs chemical weapons ended up in Syria.

I never believed, nor do I think it was suggested, that the action in Iraq was a result of 9/11. We know that Iraq did not have any involvement with the planning or execution of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. But I do believe that there was credible intelligence that Iraq wanted to build and utilize chemical weapons.

[Binyamin Yisrael]

Who cares about the invasion of Kuwait? Muslim vs. Muslim is not the problem of Non-Muslims. But when he shot scuds at Israel, Bush didn't let Israel defend itself and Israel listened which was a Chillul Hashem. It was a war to defend Kuwait and Saudi Arabia from their fellow Muslims. Saudi Arabia is far worse than Iraq and Kuwait. Perhaps helping Saudi Arabia in 1991 led the way to make it possible for Saudis to carry out the September 11 attacks. First they bombed diplomats in Saudi Arabia in 1995. Then they bombed the Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. We know what happened next.

Saudi Arabia's type of Islam is even more extreme than Iran's. Iran is just more vocal. So supporting Saudi Arabia over Iran is like supporting the PLO over Hamas.