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Hillary ..what difference does it make
« on: May 28, 2013, 10:20:43 AM »
Subject: What difference does it Make?

 

 

The stunning part of this story is that Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty killed 60 of the attacking force.  Once the compound was overrun, the attackers were incensed to discover that just two men had inflicted so much death and destruction.


 

The news has been full of the attacks on our embassies throughout the Muslim world, and in particular, the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others in Benghazi, Libya.


 

However, there’s a little known story of incredible bravery, heroics, and  courage that should be the top story.

 

So what actually happened at the U.S. embassy in Libya?  We are learning more about this every day.  Ambassador Stevens and Foreign Service officer Sean Smith, along with administrative staff, were working out of temporary quarters due to the fact that in the spring of 2011 during the so-called Arab Spring, the United States cut ties with then president Moammar Gadhafi.  Our embassy was looted and ransacked, causing it to be unusable.  It is still in a state of disrepair.


 

Security for embassies and their personnel is to be provided by the host nation.  Since Libya has gone through a civil war of sorts in the past 18 months, the current government is very unstable, and therefore, unreliable


 

A well-organized attack by radical Muslims was planned specifically targeting the temporary U.S. embassy building.  The Libyan security force that was in place to protect our people  deserted their post, or joined the attacking force.  Either way, our people were in a real fix. And it should be noted that Ambassador Stevens had mentioned on more than one occasion to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,  that he was quite concerned for his personal safety and the welfare of his people.  It is thought that Ambassador Stevens was on a “hit list.”


 

A short distance from the American compound, two Americans were sleeping.  They were in Libya as independent contractors working an assignment totally unrelated to our embassy.  They also happened to be former Navy Seal’s.


 

When they heard the noise coming from the attack on our embassy, as you would expect from highly trained warriors, they ran to the fight.  Apparently, they had no weapons, but seeing the Libyan guards dropping their guns in their haste in fleeing the scene, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty snatched up several of these discarded weapons and prepared to defend the American compound.


 

Not knowing exactly what was taking place,  the two Seal’s set up a defensive perimeter.  Unfortunately Ambassador Stevens was already gravely injured, and Foreign Service officer, Sean Smith, was dead.  However, due to their quick action and suppressive fire, twenty administrative personnel in the embassy were able to escape to safety.  Eventually, these two courageous men were overwhelmed by the sheer numbers brought against them, an enemy force numbering between 100 to 200 attackers which came in two waves.  But the stunning part of the story is that  Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty killed 60 of the attacking force.  Once the compound was overrun, the attackers were incensed to discover that just two men had inflicted so much death and destruction.


 

As it became apparent to these selfless heroes, they were definitely going to lose their lives unless some reinforcements showed up in a hurry.  As we know now, that was not to be.  I’m fairly certain they knew they were going to die in this gun fight, but not before they took a whole lot of bad guys with them!


 

Consider these tenets of the Navy SEAL Code:

1) Loyalty to Country, Team and Teammate,

2) Serve with Honor and Integrity On and Off the Battlefield,

3) Ready to Lead, Ready to Follow, Never Quit,

4) Take responsibility for your actions and the actions of your teammates,

5) Excel as Warriors through Discipline and Innovation,

6) Train for War, Fight to Win, Defeat our Nation’s Enemies, and...

7) Earn your Trident every day


 

(http://www.navyseals.com/seal-code-warrior-creed).


 

Thank you, Tyrone and Glen.  To the very last breath, you both lived up to the SEAL Code.  You served all of us well.  You were courageous in the face of certain death.


 

And Tyrone, even though you never got to hold your newborn son, he will grow up knowing the character and quality of his father, a man among men who sacrificed himself defending others.


 

Dr. Charles R. Roots

Senior Pastor

Former Staff Sergeant,

USMC Captain,

U. S. Navy Chaplain Corps (Ret.)


 

 

And Let us never forget the Hillary Clinton Comment

“What Difference does it make how these men died!"

 

 

 


Thy destroyers and they that make thee waste shall go forth of thee.  Isaiah 49:17

 
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Re: Hillary ..what difference does it make
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2013, 08:04:30 PM »
 :usa+israel:                                                                                                                       :fist:


 Truly disgusting! Sure, these type of flippant comments and complacent demeanor can be
 expected and especially with regards to Israel and Jewish issues across the board if G-d forbid
 this disingenuous 'individual' were to ever get elected.
 

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Re: Hillary ..what difference does it make
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2013, 09:40:00 PM »
Great post Mord! Two Americans and sixty dead rats! Imagine if there were a couple more soldiers, maybe they all could of come home. And a child would have a dad... This administration should be put in prison for murder!
Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the horn, and the people be not warned, and the sword do come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

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Re: Hillary ..what difference does it make
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2013, 09:43:59 PM »
One this is sure, the Clintons feel completely comfortable lying, and lying , and lying some more. Has there ever been such a corrupt family in American politics?









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Re: Hillary ..what difference does it make
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2013, 12:51:11 AM »
One this is sure, the Clintons feel completely comfortable lying, and lying , and lying some more. Has there ever been such a corrupt family in American politics?











What you expressed reminds me of the excellent article that Liz Berney wrote when she ran for Congress against the hideous Gary Ackerman a few years ago.      This article illustrates much of what we are dealing with regarding Barack Hussein Obama and Hillary ' Sodom'  Clinton:

http://www.lizberneyforcongress.com/2009/10/01/cynicism-my-encounters-with-barack-obama-hillary-clinton/



“Cynicism”: My Encounters With Barack Obama & Hillary Clinton
 
 On October 1, 2009, in Election Reform & Ethics, Israel & Iran, National Security, by lizberney 


by Elizabeth Berney, Esq. “The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.”  -  George Bernard Shaw My first and only semi-personal encounter with Barack Hussein Obama occurred on March 13, 2007, at a conference in Washington D.C. sponsored by the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (“AIPAC”).  That evening, four [...]
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by Elizabeth Berney, Esq.

“The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.”  -  George Bernard Shaw

My first and only semi-personal encounter with Barack Hussein Obama occurred on March 13, 2007, at a conference in Washington D.C. sponsored by the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (“AIPAC”).  That evening, four presidential hopefuls – Senators Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Sam Brownback – held court at separate food-less, drink-less “receptions” in adjoining unfurnished rooms. 

Hillary Clinton’s reception was mobbed.  As I’ll relate shortly, I had personally encountered Senator Clinton before, at a revealing “behind the scenes” meeting.   Instead of waiting on line to see her again, I attended the three other contenders’ gatherings.   

At Senator Brownback’s reception, Brownback spoke about his heartfelt religious convictions, which had moved him to become one of Israel’s staunchest supporters in the Senate.  He understood Israel’s struggle for survival against constant Arab attack, and sincerely cared about Israel’s defense.

Senator Biden’s gathering was odd and somewhat chaotic.  Biden flashed his trademark Hollywood smile and wandered around the room.  Those in attendance followed him as he moved about, straining to hear what he had to say.  Nothing particularly memorable emerged during the time I spent at his event.

By contrast, in the next room, Senator Obama’s statements were very memorable – at least to anyone who was listening carefully.   I stood a few feet away from our future president as he addressed a small crowd of about three or four dozen mostly star-struck, impressionable young Jews.  Obama stated – and repeated – the following breathtakingly naïve, dangerous, morally equivalent view about the root of Israel’s difficulties:


“The biggest enemy that I think we have in this whole process is . . . cynicism – the belief that the world as it is can’t be changed, that we are consigned to an endless cycle of violence and strife and bitterness.”

“Cynicism” is the “biggest enemy”?   I was appalled.  Iran was threatening nuclear annihilation of Israel, the American fleet, and other American interests and allies, and Obama thought all would be well if we just stopped being so “cynical”?!   In addition to the Iranian threat, the “biggest enemy” to peace in the Middle East has been, and continues to be the unrelenting Arab “Palestinian” determination to destroy Israel through all available means, including terrorism, delegitimization, suicide bombings, non-stop rocket attacks, kidnappings, torture, and the continuous preaching of hatred for Jews, Americans and Israel in Palestinian schools, textbooks, and media.   

Obama’s portrayal of Jews and Israelis as “cynical” was also way off the mark.  If anything, Israelis and liberal American Jews tend to be too trusting, too ready to give up what is rightfully Israel’s and what will protect Israeli lives, for the mere hope that still another concession will bring peace.  Convicted Arab terrorists are released from Israeli jails with promises that they will kill no more, and then they turn around and murder even larger numbers of Jews.  Israelis gave the Palestinians in Gaza their homes, greenhouses and an entire infrastructure for a prosperous society in the hope that that this would bring peace, and were repaid with stepped up, unrelenting rocket attacks on Israeli children, kindergartens, schools, synagogues, hospitals and homes in Sderot and other Israeli towns and cities.  If only Israel was more cynical, years of such attacks would not have occurred.

Israel’s willingness to trust, and give up concrete rights in exchange for intangible promises is also exemplified by the various agreements which Israel entered into with the Palestinian Authority since 1993 (Oslo I, Oslo II, the Wye River Memorandum, the Hebron Accord, etc.).  Israel ceded control to most of the West Bank to the Palestinian Authority – in return for Palestinian promises to stop inciting terrorism, collect illegal weapons, and change constitutions which call for Israel’s destruction.  To this day, the Fatah (and Hamas) constitutions still call for Israel’s destruction, and the Palestinians Authority still names schools, soccer teams and public squares after murderers of Israeli children.  Unrepentant Arab terrorists are held up as examples for all to follow.  The Palestinian Authority still refuses to collect illegal weapons, still sentences to death anyone who sells or rents land to a Jewish person, and still preaches hatred in every forum.  Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas frequently displays maps which showing “Palestine” replacing all of Israel; Israel is completely wiped off these official Palestinian Authority maps.    Fatah and Hamas terrorists have been responsible for over 500 Israeli deaths each, as well as thousands of wounded, in the years since Israel extended its hand in peace at Oslo.   

Obama’s other phrase, “cycle of violence,” was also extremely troubling in light of the real cause of the problems in the Middle East.  “Cycle of violence” equates Arab terrorism and rocket attacks with Israeli defensive actions.  The term “cycle of violence” is a “code word,” frequently used by those who seek to blame the Jewish State and deny the realities of the Middle East.  The term is never used by those who understand that the root of the problem is “Palestinian” Arab unrelenting efforts to destroy Israel.

Obama’s “the biggest problem is cynicism” and “cycle of violence” remarks created a bit of uproar in the press.  Obama resumed trying to measure his words about the Middle East more carefully while campaigning.  Some of Obama’s supporters even denied that Obama had ever made these remarks (despite the fact that Obama’s remarks could be viewed on You Tube).  At another AIPAC event in the fall of 2007, an Obama campaign worker asked me to contribute to Obama.  When I explained why I had no interest in supporting Obama, the campaign worker insisted that Obama never used the term “cycle of violence” even though I had heard it, live, with my own ears.

Obama’s remarks at the March 2007 AIPAC reception provided a valuable clue to his real intentions in the event he was elected president.  After hearing Obama speak, I began carefully studying Obama’s other statements and actions.  In addition to running for Congress myself against a liberal Democratic Obama supporter, I ended up speaking for the McCain campaign about the dangers that an Obama presidency would pose. 

Obama’s Middle East policies throughout his first year in office unfortunately have proven that it was all too right to be alarmed by Obama’s “cycle of violence” and “biggest problem is cynicism” comments.  The Obama administration has exerted daily pressure on Israel to make life-endangering concessions, de-legitimized Israel’s right to defend herself, promoted the Palestinian agenda at every opportunity, shut out the voices of organizations concerned with Israeli security while placing pro-Palestinian organizations at the “head of the table”, refused to listen to moderate Arab concerns about Iran, and refuses to appropriately deal with the Iranian threat.

As former American Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton succinctly put it following Obama’s September 23, 2009 United Nations speech, Obama “threw Israel under the bus.”  Or, as one of my witty friend, activist Eytan Laor put it, there was something to drink at Obama’s reception – koolaid.   

Actually, Obama was correct that “cynicism” is a significant problem.  I’m referring to the real cynicism of candidates who say one thing during a campaign, and do another upon taking office.  Aside from occasional slip ups such as the comments I heard, during his campaign, Obama was careful to sugar-coat his statements, and “cynically” often told Jewish audiences what they wanted to hear.  Then he did the opposite upon taking office.   

My encounter early in the millennium with Hillary Clinton also epitomized this type of political cynicism.   Mrs. Clinton was plotting one of her runs for office at the time, and I was working at a law firm whose partners were major supporters of the Democratic party.  The law firm’s well-appointed New York office was located across the street from Mrs. Clinton’s not-so-luxurious campaign headquarters.  When Mrs. Clinton wanted to hold a large campaign meeting, she borrowed the law firm’s conference room.  (This occurred so often that one of Mrs. Clinton’s Secret Service bodyguards began dating one of the female lawyers at the firm.)

One day, I was walking by the conference room and noticed that the door was open and that Mrs. Clinton was speaking.  Curious, I moved to the doorway to hear what she was saying.    Mrs. Clinton was meeting with a group of Democratic Jewish women.  Just as I poked my head in the room, Mrs. Clinton asked them: “What do I need to say to win the Jewish vote?”  Not “what policies should I pursue?”  Not “what do I need to do when I am in office?”  Just a “what do I need to say”?   

Not surprisingly in light of her Machiavellian remark, Mrs. Clinton’s Middle East positions have transformed dramatically at each stage of her career.  As First Lady, during a State visit to the Middle East in 1999, Clinton hugged and kissed Suha Arafat (arch-terrorist Yasser Arafat’s wife) after sitting quietly and listening to Mrs. Arafat accuse Israelis of using intensive cancer-causing poisonous gases and chemicals on the Palestinian people.  After Mrs. Arafat’s venomous diatribe, Clinton also called for a Palestinian state – at a time when most unbiased individuals still understood that such a state would be a terrorist enclave.  As a New York Senator, and while campaigning for the Senate and later the presidency, Mrs. Clinton was suddenly pro-Israel.  For instance, she joined with Palestinian Media Watch in February 2007 in releasing a report exposing continuing anti-Israel language in Palestinian school textbooks[ii], and sponsored legislation that limited U.S. contributions to the International Committee of the Red Cross until it recognized the Israel’s version of the Red Cross, Magen David Adom.[iii]  However, as this book also details, since joining the Obama administration as Secretary of State, Mrs. Clinton is back to “kissing Suha” mode.   

 Ambrose Bierce defined a cynic as “a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.”  We must always examine things as they are.

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   Obama’s March 13, 2007 statement can be viewed on YouTube, at  .

 [ii]   See http://www.pmw.org.il/Bulletins_Feb2007.htm

[iii]   See http://njdc.typepad.com/njdcdemsonisrael.pdf

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