The Ayatollah on Sex with Infants:

[newman]

"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby.
However, he should not penetrate.  If he penetrates and the child is
harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life.
This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives". 
  (Arabic Source - 12th item under the title "Ketabonnekah")   
 
 

[ftf]

You missed out the link to the arabic source: http://www.al-shia.com/html/ara/books/tahrir/tahrir25.htm#a4

[kellymaureen]

Mmmm yes he was among the sickest for sure....what a disgusting old pervert.  He spent his days coming up with "learned" islamic gems like these:

“A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.”

or

“If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, an ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned.”

or my favorite:

“America is the great Satan, the wounded snake.”
Lol I love that "great satan" stuff, I wonder if I could get that on my passport, and you see Ive cleverly arranged my hair so my horns barely show at all

[newman]

"America is the great Satan, the wounded snake.”
Lol I love that "great satan" stuff, I wonder if I could get that on my passport, and you see Ive cleverly arranged my hair so my horns barely show at all "


How could you have horns?
The Jews are supposed to have them according to our whack-job enemies.

[kellymaureen]

 :laugh:Because I live in the land of the great satan.....muhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa we all have them:P

[newman]

Under his leadership in Iran, it's OK to use kids to clear minefields too. Children don't have much of a chance in islam, it seems.

[MasterWolf1]

Islamics are truely the sickest creatures on the face of the Earth.

[Malik]

B.S
This man does not represent muslims worldwide, just his repressed country, Iran.

[newman]

B.S
This man does not represent muslims worldwide, just his repressed country, Iran.

NO, he's a TYPICAL MUSLIM-NAZI LOONY.

[Malik]

B.S
This man does not represent muslims worldwide, just his repressed country, Iran.

NO, he's a TYPICAL MUSLIM-NAZI LOONY.

He made up his own evil rules for the shia's. He isn't a known or commended figure in the Islamic world and the majority of people hate him.

[newman]

B.S
This man does not represent muslims worldwide, just his repressed country, Iran.

NO, he's a TYPICAL MUSLIM-NAZI LOONY.

He made up his own evil rules for the shia's. He isn't a known or commended figure in the Islamic world and the majority of people hate him.

The gand mufti loony of Australia isn't a shiite and he said women who don't wear a tent deserve to be raped..........this is the normal muslim view.

[Malik]

B.S
This man does not represent Muslims worldwide, just his repressed country, Iran.

NO, he's a TYPICAL MUSLIM-NAZI LOONY.

He made up his own evil rules for the shia's. He isn't a known or commended figure in the Islamic world and the majority of people hate him.

The gand mufti loony of Australia isn't a shiite and he said women who don't wear a tent deserve to be raped..........this is the normal muslim view.

Quote me his precise words.

There are those who are evil but you cannot say they represent the normal view of a faith. Look at some of the rabbis in Israel who hold their tongues against gay leaders, do they hold the normal Jewish view? No and its not the case for Muslims.
I am sure there are rabbis that abuse children as well.

[newman]

B.S
This man does not represent Muslims worldwide, just his repressed country, Iran.

NO, he's a TYPICAL MUSLIM-NAZI LOONY.

He made up his own evil rules for the shia's. He isn't a known or commended figure in the Islamic world and the majority of people hate him.

The gand mufti loony of Australia isn't a shiite and he said women who don't wear a tent deserve to be raped..........this is the normal muslim view.

Quote me his precise words.

There are those who are evil but you cannot say they represent the normal view of a faith. Look at some of the rabbis in Israel who hold their tongues against gay leaders, do they hold the normal Jewish view? No and its not the case for Muslims.
I am sure there are rabbis that abuse children as well.

His words:


"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats or the uncovered meat," he said.

"The uncovered meat is the problem.

"If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred."

[Malik]

The victim is the woman, so the focus is the woman. There are evil men out there, there are evil people in general.......the world isn't going to rid itself of evil because evil began when the human race began.
Therefore to protect yourself you need to defend yourself. Once again, i'll highlight that the Woman is the focus, the victim in an act of rape. If she is to prevent and protect herself from getting harmed, from the evil out there then she shouldn't encourage and make herself a prime target. That is, she shouldn't go out late at night, alone, wearing mini-skirts or baring all flesh, because that may stir on the evil men and provoke them to attack more.

[newman]

Your own words:

"then she shouldn't encourage and make herself a prime target. That is, she shouldn't go out late at night, alone, wearing mini-skirts or baring all flesh, because that may stir on the evil men and provoke them to attack more."

You've just displayed the typical muslim animal view.

You vile pigs have no self-control whatsoever.

A woman has every right to wear what she damn well pleases at whatever time she pleases. Muslim arab pigs can learn some self-control like the rest of humanity.

Although your warlord Mo' was such a vile rapist himself, I suppose you have no decent example to follow.

[Malik]

Forget arabs Newman, this applies to ALL men, from every race. A woman who walks down the street wearing nothing more then a skimpy all showing top and a tight super short skirt at 1pm at night, when all the drunks and misfits are out while the decent people are at home with their families, is more likely to get raped then a woman at home and safe. Or do you disagree with this?

You decontextualised what I said.


What so you think its great that women walk around wearing extremely immodest clothing?

[newman]

Forget arabs Newman, this applies to ALL men, from every race. A woman who walks down the street wearing nothing more then a skimpy all showing top and a tight super short skirt at 1pm at night, when all the drunks and misfits are out while the decent people are at home with their families, is more likely to get raped then a woman at home and safe. Or do you disagree with this?

You decontextualised what I said.


What so you think its great that women walk around wearing extremely immodest clothing?

Women were always safe no matter what they wore before stinking arab muslim beasts infected country. Yes, we had a few rapes before then but we blamed the RAPIST....not the victim.

Are you such an animal that you can't control yourself when you see a woman in a short dress?.....why am I asking you that? Your a muslim animal.....of coarse you can't!

This is a free society. Women have the RIGHT to wear whatever style of clothing they please, short of nudity. They also have the right to go where they please at whatever hour. If you animals can't deal with it, sod off back to the filthy muslim stinkholes you come from.

[Malik]

Forget arabs Newman, this applies to ALL men, from every race. A woman who walks down the street wearing nothing more then a skimpy all showing top and a tight super short skirt at 1pm at night, when all the drunks and misfits are out while the decent people are at home with their families, is more likely to get raped then a woman at home and safe. Or do you disagree with this?

You decontextualised what I said.


What so you think its great that women walk around wearing extremely immodest clothing?

Women were always safe no matter what they wore before stinking arab muslim beasts infected country. Yes, we had a few rapes before then but we blamed the RAPIST....not the victim.

Are you such an animal that you can't control yourself when you see a woman in a short dress?.....why am I asking you that? Your a muslim animal.....of coarse you can't!

This is a free society. Women have the RIGHT to wear whatever style of clothing they please, short of nudity. They also have the right to go where they please at whatever hour. If you animals can't deal with it, sod off back to the filthy muslim stinkholes you come from.

I never said blame the victim, Newman, the rapist is entirely to blame and i clearly stated that whoever commits such a crime is evil and should be punished without a doubt.

However the probability of women getting raped would lessen if they were more modest, I'm sure.

And Newman, you say that women were always safe.....BEFORE the arabs came, well if you're living in a Western country, that must be quite a decades ago in which women dressed more modest then they do now. They didn't walk the high streets with extremely low cut tops and had some shame about them.

Free society should always be limited, according to religion there are rules in life. Any religion.

[newman]

Not wearing fine clothes or jewellry would lessen the chance of a mugging. Should nobody wear these because a criminal element have no control?

The muslim rapes of christian girls in the west have NOTHING to do with dress. It's muslim animals not controling their savage urges. Women are raped in Pakistan too. And there the rape victim is punished. That's how twisted and vile pigslamic law is.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Newman, I feel you're wasting time with attempts to use logic and reason with "Malik".

He's insane and brainwashed.

Nothing could ever change his mentality; he's the enemy, and must be defeated.

He's such an ignoramus that he doesn't even know that the reason the veil came into use in women's clothing in the East, was because of the Muslim invasions, where the Muslims raped and defiled every modestly attired woman in sight.  The only defense the women had was to veil their faces in public, in hopes that the Muslims wouldn't see anything attractive in their appearance, thereby hopefully avoiding gang rape by Mohammedan maniacs.  After a generation or two, the veil became an actual tradition; the only way women could protect themselves from Islamic rape.

Malik is just another throwback to Neanderthal times.  He's unaware that famine and despoilation date all the way back to day 1.

He'd rather swallow the Muzzie lies about how "they would rule the world" if only Jew and American didn't steal it from them.

They're simply hopeless garbage.

[newman]

This one's got a new slant. He tried telling me masons were controling the muslim nations on one of these threads!

The mind boggles at the madness of these farshtunken people.

[Malik]

Newman, I feel you're wasting time with attempts to use logic and reason with "Malik".

He's insane and brainwashed.

Nothing could ever change his mentality; he's the enemy, and must be defeated.

He's such an ignoramus that he doesn't even know that the reason the veil came into use in women's clothing in the East, was because of the Muslim invasions, where the Muslims raped and defiled every modestly attired woman in sight.  The only defense the women had was to veil their faces in public, in hopes that the Muslims wouldn't see anything attractive in their appearance, thereby hopefully avoiding gang rape by Mohammedan maniacs.  After a generation or two, the veil became an actual tradition; the only way women could protect themselves from Islamic rape.

Malik is just another throwback to Neanderthal times.  He's unaware that famine and despoilation date all the way back to day 1.

He'd rather swallow the Muzzie lies about how "they would rule the world" if only Jew and American didn't steal it from them.

They're simply hopeless garbage.

Thats not true, the veil was initially used in Arabia to sheild ones face from sand storms etc used by both men and women but for women in a different style. When it was commanded that women should dress modestly, the women incorparated the sheilding veil along with it. Then it became a tradition. Its frankly stupid that muslim women cover their faces now, because there isn't any sand and they aren't allowed to cover their faces while praying or doing many religious acts of worship. Plus it just pulls them away from society. I know so many people who have chosen to wear the veil themselves and i do not believe its always the men forcing it upon the women. When I was abroad in a "supposedly" muslim country, my sister wore a head scarf once and every started telling her to take it off, theres no need. A lot of muslim countries are gradualy pulling away from this medeival adoption they have taken to be Islam, however some don't seem to realise that the rules in Islam would change for another era of civilisation due to development.

I don't think Muslims should rule the world at all but I certainly don't agree with the methods of America or any current superpower. Listen MassuhDGoodName, i respect Jews completely and disregarding politics of any sort i have differing views about the opinion shared on this forum. I have been reading around and I agree that Iran should not have major weapons of any sort, muslims need to step into civilised surroundings and some other things at minor levels.

Newman, i didn't mean every country was controlled by freemasons, i just mean't the presidents of a few countries are as such, they aren't Islamic by any degree.

[newman]

QUOTE:"Newman, i didn't mean every country was controlled by freemasons, i just mean't the presidents of a few countries are as such, they aren't Islamic by any degree."

You're trying to use the same tired old excuse that the tired old communists and socialists use to explain why their failed ideology failed.
"Well Russia/China weren't really communist" or in your case " well the muslim countries aren't really muslim". It won't work. Communist and socialist countries FAILED. Islamic countries have FAILED.....period.

[Malik]

QUOTE:"Newman, i didn't mean every country was controlled by freemasons, i just mean't the presidents of a few countries are as such, they aren't Islamic by any degree."

You're trying to use the same tired old excuse that the tired old communists and socialists use to explain why their failed ideology failed.
"Well Russia/China weren't really communist" or in your case " well the muslim countries aren't really muslim". It won't work. Communist and socialist countries FAILED. Islamic countries have FAILED.....period.

Communism was a human run ideology, Islam is a religion. The world is still proceeding, and so are the countries in the Arab world. Its the people which cause disruption not the religion, if they read and understood the religion the same way its interpreted by scholars.

[newman]

QUOTE:"Newman, i didn't mean every country was controlled by freemasons, i just mean't the presidents of a few countries are as such, they aren't Islamic by any degree."

You're trying to use the same tired old excuse that the tired old communists and socialists use to explain why their failed ideology failed.
"Well Russia/China weren't really communist" or in your case " well the muslim countries aren't really muslim". It won't work. Communist and socialist countries FAILED. Islamic countries have FAILED.....period.

Communism was a human run ideology, Islam is a religion. The world is still proceeding, and so are the countries in the Arab world. Its the people which cause disruption not the religion, if they read and understood the religion the same way its interpreted by scholars.

That's a cop-out and an excuse. By and large, muslim countries are backward, Judaic-christian countries are advanced. Religion and culture have EVERYTHING to do with it.