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Modern Orthodox?
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: IsraeliHeart on October 24, 2013, 12:21:55 AM ---What is the forum's opinion on "Modern Orthodox"? For the past year, I have been leaning towards Breslov. My ex was Haredi and my first shul experience was with Chabad.
Currently, I have been introduced to a new group of people....and they are MO. I have been attending events and there is mixed seating, mixed singing. Things I had not experienced before and said I would not do.
Now, I feel confused. More so, I feel like I am leaning towards being a more liberal person.
I don't mean any disrespect to anyone on the forum who considers themselves modern orthodox. I have no problem with it, it's just that I had not personally experienced it myself. And I feel kind of out of place but I don't want to act like an "ultra" extremist in front of my new MO friends. And I feel like I am loosing the Breslov interest I had before.
Anyways, I heard some people say things like "MO is a heresy". But what do people in the forum feel about it?
Part of the reason why I stopped posting on the forum is because I wanted to lean towards a stricter type of life and now, I find myself hanging out with MO people.
In short, what is the forum's opinion on MO communities?
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Is there something "strict" religiously about not posting on the forum?
MO is a mixed bag. The leftwing are completely nuts. The "MO Machmir" (right wing modern orthodox) is very religious with good values and just a few cultural differences from the more yeshivish crowd. I don't (and they don't) see a problem with those cultural differences (usually things like "mixed seating" etc) because they are not halachically forbidden things, and usually they are actually closer to tradition than what people currently do - For example: mixed seating at weddings. Nothing wrong with it and used to be a norm. Now it's become taboo in some circles.
Sveta:
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 25, 2013, 08:51:30 AM ---Is there something "strict" religiously about not posting on the forum?
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Not necessarily. I was trying to "quit" the internet. But I guess I just could not do it.
Thank you all for your replies. This was very helpful information to me.
Israel Chai:
You can daven there, but nothing replaces hardcore orthodox who tell it like it is and have the pride in Hashem not to water down the truth, and fill you with pride for Judaism.
I have no problem with the Modern Othodox, but some rabbis that I heard speak there gave nice, pretty speeches instead of hard hitting things, which you can easily argue does damage to the Jewish people.
Binyamin Yisrael:
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 25, 2013, 08:51:30 AM ---MO is a mixed bag. The leftwing are completely nuts. The "MO Machmir" (right wing modern orthodox) is very religious with good values and just a few cultural differences from the more yeshivish crowd.
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By Left Wing do you mean politically or their level of observance? I call myself Modern Orthodox Liberal (The term was invented on Frumster.) to describe my level of observance. My level of religious ideology and politics is Right Wing Jewish nationalist.
It seems that too many Modern Orthodox rabbis in the United States tend to be less Right Wing politically. In Israel it's the opposite. Modern Orthodoxy in Israel is called National Religious (Religious Zionist) while the the Haredim are known not to be Zionists. The Haredim in the United States are more likely to vote Republican than other Orthodox Jews. Haredi rabbis are not afraid to speak up against Obama. The rabbi of my synagogue thinks that he can't be political because of the separation of religion and state, thereby jeopardizing the tax exempt status of the synagogue. The rabbi also likes to promote AIPAC. I told him they don't help Pollard. He said they don't take an opinion (their words) and he said AIPAC's "Israel update" that he puts on the Shabbat announcements shows AIPAC's successes. But they don't take political position so how can they be successful? They just seem to be a mouthpiece for the Hate Department. I thought if Orthodox synagogues work in AIPAC, they would try to influence AIPAC but it seems it's just a waste of money when the rabbi goes to their convention where all they do is eat and hear speeches by evil Establishment people. The rabbi was surprised when I said Nefesh B'Nefesh is a real Right Wing group unlike AIPAC when Nefesh B'Nefesh sent the synagogue a check to have the rabbi speak about aliyah. If a group is not Right Wing, then it would be an evil group. Judaism and the Bible are Right Wing so I don't know how someone could speak as a Leftist in the name of Judaism.
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