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Will India's Next Leader Be Banned From America?
« on: December 16, 2013, 04:16:52 AM »


A series of elections in India last week have exposed a major diplomatic problem for the U.S. State Department: The man expected to lead the world's largest democracy in 2014 is not legally allowed to enter the United States. The reason: his involvement in anti-Muslim riots that killed more than 1,000 people. The travel restriction is insulting to many Indians and threatens future U.S.-India relations, but the State Department has few workable options, if any.

On Sunday, India's Hindu nationalist opposition, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), trounced the ruling Congress in a number of key state assembly polls. Pollsters say the BJP is now widely expected to win next year's general election, which would make the party's controversial prime ministerial nominee, Narendra Modi, the next leader of India. The State Department won't say whether a Prime Minister Modi would be allowed entrance to the United States, but experts say the question looms large over the U.S.-India relationship.

"I am not going to speculate about what the outcome might be," State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf told The Cable. At the same time, U.S. activists tell us they will challenge Modi in court if he ever sets foot in America.

Modi, the chief minister of the western state of Gujarat, is a popular politician with a disturbing track record of intolerance. The United States denied him a diplomatic visa in 2005 and revoked his existing business visa due to his role in the 2002 communal riots in Gujarat in which some 1,000 people -- mostly Muslims -- were killed. Modi stood accused of stoking religious violence and failing to protect Gujarat's Muslim minority as chief minister. A subsequent resolution passed by Congress condemned him for promoting Nazi ideology and "racial hatred."

Modi supporters point out that a special investigative team appointed by India's Supreme Court cleared him of any wrongdoing in the riots and emphasize his role in making Gujarat one of India's fastest-growing economic success stories.

But U.S. officials saw little risk in blacklisting an obscure and provincial Indian politician back in 2005. At the time, Foggy Bottom revoked his visa under the Immigration and Nationality Act, which makes foreign officials who are responsible for "serious" violations of religious freedom ineligible for travel to America. Now Modi is a national political juggernaut whom the United States ignores at its peril.

"If he becomes prime minister, the U.S. will have to find a way to do business with him," Tanvi Madan, director of the Brookings Institution's India Project, told The Cable. "The question is whether or not to do something before next year's election."

Both options present risks.

If the United States continues to restrict Modi's travel and freeze him out of diplomatic discussions at the ambassadorial level, it risks alienating an important partner on everything from trade to security to finance to diaspora issues. By contrast, the European Union, Britain, and Germany have all engaged in ambassador-level discussions with Modi. This status quo also risks insulting hundreds of millions of Indians.

"The travel restriction has created resentment amongst the leadership and some amongst the rank-and-file BJP party workers," said Milan Vaishnav of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "We're talking about a three-time incumbent chief minister. He hasn't been found guilty by any court of law, he's not under indictment for any crime, and there hasn't been a smoking gun in their view. So how can you, the United States, prevent this guy from coming to your country?"

But not everyone agrees with the BJP's interpretation of history. There is currently a trench war playing out on Capitol Hill over Modi's legacy. Anti-Modi groups, such as the Indian American Muslim Council (IAMC), promise to name and shame anyone supportive of Modi, whom they consider a genocidal Hindu supremacist. IAMC has hired the lobbying firm Fidelis to advance its goals on the Hill, including a resolution critical of violations of minority groups in India that was introduced by Rep. Joe Pitts (R-PA).

The Cable has learned that anti-Modi groups are also planning a legal challenge against the chief minister should he ever travel to the United States. "Some of us are working with the next of kin of victims of the Gujarat 2002 violence living in the United States," Shaik Ubaid, founder of the Coalition Against Genocide, said. "We will be ready to file criminal and tort cases against Modi should he try to come to the United States."

Pro-Modi groups, such as the Hindu American Foundation, have accused these anti-Modi groups of slandering the reputation of India and its leaders. "It is certainly disappointing to see Indian- Americans hiring an American lobbying firm to advocate for a deeply flawed and insulting American resolution critical of India," said the Hindu American Foundation's Jay Kansara.

The pro-Modi camp has courted high-profile Republican lawmakers such as Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers and Rep. Aaron Schock, but to varying degrees of success. After heaping effusive praise on Modi following a 2013 visit to Gujarat, McMorris Rodgers denied association with him in November after anti-genocide groups complained about an invite for Modi to talk to Republican leaders on Capitol Hill via video link. "They don't have a relationship," a congressional aide told The Cable.

Technically, it would not be difficult for Foggy Bottom to resolve Modi's travel status. Although the department originally determined that Modi was ineligible for travel under the Immigration and Nationality Act, it's not bound by that earlier decision.

"Our long-standing policy with regard to the chief minister is that he is welcome to apply for a visa and await a review like any other applicant," Harf told The Cable. "That review will be grounded in U.S. law."

However, Modi is unlikely to reapply for a visa between now and the 2014 elections.

Alternatively, the United States could implement a half-measure, such as issuing a statement that clarifies that America would never bar the leader of India from entering the country. But even that poses problems.

"Friends at the State Department say they're hyperaware of this issue but constrained because of the elections," said Vaishnav. "They don't want to be seen as endorsing a candidate or meddling in Indian politics. The State Department doesn't want to be on the front page of Indian newspapers."

Madan agrees. "Any sign of foreign interference would be taken extremely negatively in India," she said. "The Congress party would latch onto that, saying the U.S. has endorsed Modi."

By and large, Foggy Bottom is boxed in on the issue. "There is little doubt that this poses a dilemma for the State Department," said Madan. "Modi is a major figure in Indian politics. It's impossible to imagine that they haven't thought through the various scenarios, but it's unclear what they'll do."

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Re: Will India's Next Leader Be Banned From America?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2013, 04:46:10 AM »
He will not be banned if elected that is pretty obvious.

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Re: Will India's Next Leader Be Banned From America?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2013, 08:29:00 AM »
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his involvement in anti-Muslim riots that killed more than 1,000 people

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Re: Will India's Next Leader Be Banned From America?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2013, 11:12:18 AM »
They'll only bad him if he's especially righteous.
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Re: Will India's Next Leader Be Banned From America?
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2013, 11:49:20 AM »
Well they let Arafat and Mandela in. But of course we know the Leftists have a double standard.


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Re: Will India's Next Leader Be Banned From America?
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2013, 03:05:03 PM »
It will be in the favor of Mr Modi if USA maintains the said ban.
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Re: Will India's Next Leader Be Banned From America?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2013, 07:45:02 AM »
India retaliates, Delhi Police remove barricades from outside US embassy:

NEW DELHI: (PTI) India on Tuesday retaliated strongly to the arrest of its deputy consul general in New York by initiating series of steps to strip US diplomats and their families of privileges including withdrawing all airport passes and stopping import clearances for the embassy. Delhi police on Tuesday removed barricades from outside the US embassy to protest against the arrest of Indian envoy in US.

Asking all Consulate personnel and their families to turn in their ID cards immediately, the government has also sought key information such as salaries paid to all Indian staff employed at the Consulates and by Consulate officers and families including as domestic helps.

"The government has asked for all US Consulate personnel's ID cards and that of their families immediately. These will now be downgraded on par with with what the US provides to our Consulates in US," sources said.

The government has asked the US to provide it with visa information and other details of all teachers at US schools and pay and bank accounts of Indians in these schools.

Apart from these measures, government has stopped all import clearances for the US embassy including for liquor.

Also, the traffic barricades near the US embassy on Nyaya Marg here will be lifted except the picket.

India has reacted sharply to the arrest of Deputy Consul General Devyani Khobragade, who was handcuffed in public in New York on visa fraud charges last week. Earlier, Foreign Secretary Sujatha Singh summoned US Ambassador Nancy Powell and issued a demarche in this regard.

The displeasure was also evident among leaders and officials of Indian government who cancelled their meetings with visiting US Congressional delegation. Home minister Sushilkumar Shinde on Tuesday cancelled his meeting with the US team ostensibly as a mark of protest against the treatment meted out to Khobragade.

On Monday, Lok Sabha Speaker Meira Kumar had cancelled her meeting with a senior US Congressional delegation due to the same reason.

National security advisor Shiv Shankar Menon, who also had a scheduled meeting with the five-member US team, did not meet them, apparently for the same reason.

The delegation comprised Congressmen George Holding (Republican - North Carolina), Pete Olson (Republican - Texas) David Schweikert (Republican - Arizona), Robert Woodall (Republican - Georgia), Madeleine Bordallo (Democrat - Guam).

39-year-old Khobragade, a 1999-batch IFS officer, was taken into custody last week on visa fraud charges on a street in New York as she was dropping her daughter to school before being released on a $250,000 bond after pleading not guilty in court.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-retaliates-Delhi-Police-remove-barricades-from-outside-US-embassy/articleshow/27533892.cms
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Re: Will India's Next Leader Be Banned From America?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2013, 11:39:36 AM »
In all seriousness I honestly think he will be snubbed by king oBumma to say the least..... and I would not be surprised if he was banned in the US. oBumma has shown over and over his disdain for anything and/or anyone that isn't pro-muslim.

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Re: Will India's Next Leader Be Banned From America?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2013, 07:06:35 PM »
How is the incident in NY related to the new Right Wing leader in India?


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Re: Will India's Next Leader Be Banned From America?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2013, 09:53:08 PM »
"Among the officials who refused to meet with the U.S. delegation was Narendra Modi, chief minister of Gujarat and the front-runner in the race to be India's next prime minister.

"Refused to meet the visiting USA delegation in solidarity with our nation, protesting ill-treatment meted to our lady diplomat in USA," Modi tweeted.

Controversy surrounding Modi already has stirred tension between some Indian officials and the U.S. As Modi heads into next year's election, some in Congress are voicing support for a 2005 State Department decision to deny Modi a visa to the United States - over his alleged role in Muslim-Hindu riots in his state in 2002.

Sanjay Puri, chairman of the U.S. India Political Action Committee in Washington, D.C., voiced concern Tuesday about the status of the U.S.-India relationship.

"I think we have caused some damage to U.S.-India relations," he told FoxNews.com, citing statements made about Modi but also the ongoing dispute over Khobragade's arrest. He questioned whether her treatment during the arrest was "justified." "

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/12/17/india-retaliates-against-us-over-arrest-diplomat/

Modi took a stern stand against this arresting in USA, then the EuroCommunist leaders had nothing but to follow him. So in this manner Mr. Narinder Modi is related to this incident.
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Re: Will India's Next Leader Be Banned From America?
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2013, 07:04:41 AM »
If the Hindus can produce a voluble, idealist, burning nationalist patriot, Muslim/Paki-hating 13 year old girl like this, why can't the Jewish People?



All those 100s of 1000s of Haredi Frumettes: as far as Jewish Destiny is involved, basically a waste of skirt!

And the Hill Top Girls: brave, but not too smart. Anyone rising from their ranks?

Actually now that WIG's Nadia Matar has become a great grandmother and retired, the only females displaying any gumption and courage in their convictions in Israel are the chilonette Ayalet Shaked and the dreadful WOW!
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Re: Will India's Next Leader Be Banned From America?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2013, 08:25:01 AM »
If he is a righteous human being, then yes.

Dan - Stay calm and be brave in order to judge correctly and make the right decision

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Re: Will India's Next Leader Be Banned From America?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2013, 08:28:04 AM »


All those 100s of 1000s of Haredi Frumettes: as far as Jewish Destiny is involved, basically a waste of skirt!

And the Hill Top Girls: brave, but not too smart. Anyone rising from their ranks?


Go [censored] yourself.
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2013, 09:05:12 AM »
"The Haredim are irrelevant!" (R.Meir Kahane)
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4467026,00.html

And that includes the Haredi females too (c80% anyway!)!