Prayers Requested : For Ariel Sharon

[muman613]

Please join us in praying for Ariel Sharon...


Praying for him to die... He has struggled through darkness for so long, his soul should do its final purification in gehinnom.

Sorry... Just had to say it...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/01/01/ariel-sharon-israel-health/4278001/

JERUSALEM (AP) — The medical condition of the comatose former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon sharply deteriorated Wednesday, the hospital treating him said.

Sharon, 85, has been in a coma since 2006 when a devastating stroke incapacitated him at the height of his political power. Since then, he has been in a vegetative state, connected to a respirator. His family has said that he sometimes opens his eyes and moves his fingers.

[muman613]

http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,60815.msg541629.html#msg541629

Adapted from an article in Hebrew by Rabbi Moshe Tzuriel

It was incredible to see. God struck Sharon down with a stroke, and rabbis across the board, from the Zionist Camp to the Haredi Camp, were praying for his welfare. Yeshivas were learning Torah for his "refua shleima"; tehilim were being recited for his quick recovery; "mikubalim", mystic rabbis were doing a "tikun nefesh" for him, as the head rabbis of Israel were calling for a day of prayer, to open the holy arc and bequeath the Lord for mercy…

Where did they get this from? The prime source they quoted to justify the festivities, was the saying of our sages: "in the fall of your enemy, do not rejoice." They added the Talmud, in Sanhedrin 39, where it says that the Almighty isn't happy with the fall of the wicked. Some said that the honor of the state of Israel was at stake, and we must always pray for the health of its leaders. Even Jews with normal instincts were starting to get confused regarding how one should react when this "moser" (a Jew who turns over Jews or Jewish property over to the goyim), who destroyed 22 Jewish educational institutions and wiped out another 16 shuls, was abruptly tossed out of the political arena. How can we be sorry about what happened to him? The man himself proclaimed, just two hours before his stroke, that he planned to continue his program of unilateral withdrawal, which means forfeiting 90% of Yesha! Are we supposed to pray for the welfare of a man who, if he recovers, is going to cause irreparable Chillul Hashem and personal damage to 200,000 Jews?

The fact is, that Jewish sources teach that one should ask God to punish the wicked. This concept is all over the book of Psalms, as David curses his tormentors – those who slandered and incited against him. David is referring to Jews, such as Doeg and Achitopel! Here are but a few samples: "His mischief will return upon his own head, and upon his own skull will his violence come down" (7:17); "Let them be as chaff before the wind; and may the angel of the Lord cast them forth" (35:5); "For yet but for a little while, and the wicked shall be no more" (37:10); "Behold, those that hate you, I ever hate, Oh Lord! And those that rise up against you, I feel loathing. With the utmost hatred do I hate them" (139:21-22) This is but a tiny sample of David asking God to punish the wicked. Again, according to almost all the commentators, like the Radak, the Mezudat David, and Sforno, David is talking about Jewish enemies.

So what about the widely quoted Sanhedrin 39, where upon the drowning of the Egyptians, God tells the angels, "The creation of My Hands are drowning in the sea, and you sing a song?" Unfortunately, the falsifiers didn't finish reading the text. The very next line says: "He is not happy, but He commands others to be happy". That is, God is not happy that the evil people died without doing "tsheuva", but those who have been rescued certainly must give praise and thanks.
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[muman613]

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175830#.UsUTNZCJDAQ

Doctors: End for Sharon Could Come 'Within Hours'
Doctors have told Sharon family members that they do not expect him to survive the weekend, although the end could come within hours
By David Lev
First Publish: 1/2/2014, 8:12 AM

Ariel Sharon's medical condition stabilized somewhat overnight Wednesday, Israel Radio reported Thursday morning. With that, medical officials said, he is not likely to survive much longer.

Doctors have told Sharon family members that they do not expect him to survive the weekend, although the end could come within hours.

Sharon's kidneys and urinary system collapsed over the past several weeks. He underwent emergency surgery, but in recent days his situation has deteriorated even further. At this point, doctors have told family members, there is nothing more they can do. Medical officials said that they are awaiting family decisions on options that have been presented regarding Sharon.

Family members, including his Sharon's two sons Omri and Gilad, have been holding a vigil at the former Prime Minister's bed in Tel Hashomer Hospital outside Tel Aviv, surrounded by large numbers of police and Shabak agents. Channel Two reported that an unnamed government minister visited Sharon Wednesday night, and spoke with his sons.

In a statement, Tel Hashomer hospital said that given the deterioration in Sharon's condition, doctors would likely take “a more passive approach to treatment.”

Sharon, now 85, served as Israel's Prime Minister from 2001 to 2006. During his tenure, he initiated the Disengagement plan, during which thousands of Jews were deported from Gaza and northern Samaria - turning the once-fertile region over to Hamas-control.

Sharon suffered a serious stroke on January 4, 2006 and has been comatose since.

In January 2013, US and Israeli specialists reported that Sharon had showed "significant brain activity" in an MRI scan, responding to pictures of his family seven years after the stroke. Despite this, Sharon's condition basically remains unchanged.

[Israel Chai]

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175830#.UsUTNZCJDAQ

Doctors: End for Sharon Could Come 'Within Hours'
Doctors have told Sharon family members that they do not expect him to survive the weekend, although the end could come within hours
By David Lev
First Publish: 1/2/2014, 8:12 AM

Ariel Sharon's medical condition stabilized somewhat overnight Wednesday, Israel Radio reported Thursday morning. With that, medical officials said, he is not likely to survive much longer.

Doctors have told Sharon family members that they do not expect him to survive the weekend, although the end could come within hours.

Sharon's kidneys and urinary system collapsed over the past several weeks. He underwent emergency surgery, but in recent days his situation has deteriorated even further. At this point, doctors have told family members, there is nothing more they can do. Medical officials said that they are awaiting family decisions on options that have been presented regarding Sharon.

Family members, including his Sharon's two sons Omri and Gilad, have been holding a vigil at the former Prime Minister's bed in Tel Hashomer Hospital outside Tel Aviv, surrounded by large numbers of police and Shabak agents. Channel Two reported that an unnamed government minister visited Sharon Wednesday night, and spoke with his sons.

In a statement, Tel Hashomer hospital said that given the deterioration in Sharon's condition, doctors would likely take “a more passive approach to treatment.”

Sharon, now 85, served as Israel's Prime Minister from 2001 to 2006. During his tenure, he initiated the Disengagement plan, during which thousands of Jews were deported from Gaza and northern Samaria - turning the once-fertile region over to Hamas-control.

Sharon suffered a serious stroke on January 4, 2006 and has been comatose since.

In January 2013, US and Israeli specialists reported that Sharon had showed "significant brain activity" in an MRI scan, responding to pictures of his family seven years after the stroke. Despite this, Sharon's condition basically remains unchanged.

  exciting! I can't sleep!

[Sveta]

Prayers for Sharon:



You know what is so strange? Today my friend and I were talking about Sharon and the curse that was placed upon him, and how he is in a coma so the curse didn't work. Then I played the video and a couple of hours later, I saw the headline that he is close to death.
I am definitely NOT saying that me playing the video today caused it, that would be silly. But it just happened at the same time. I never talk about Sharon and today in two different conversations with two different people, I mentioned him. Which I never do.

I really think this is it for him. And of course the Israeli government will make a big event out of it. National mourning, people crying in the streets, people praying for him, honors for his memory. Blah blah blah. If he dies, it is because of divine justice.

[Israel Chai]

Prayers for Sharon:



You know what is so strange? Today my friend and I were talking about Sharon and the curse that was placed upon him, and how he is in a coma so the curse didn't work. Then I played the video and a couple of hours later, I saw the headline that he is close to death.
I am definitely NOT saying that me playing the video today caused it, that would be silly. But it just happened at the same time. I never talk about Sharon and today in two different conversations with two different people, I mentioned him. Which I never do.

I really think this is it for him. And of course the Israeli government will make a big event out of it. National mourning, people crying in the streets, people praying for him, honors for his memory. Blah blah blah. If he dies, it is because of divine justice.

If that is so... Sharon, eh? Tell me everything there is to know

[Zelhar]

I would have him kept alive in his vegetative state just to avoid the admiration fest that would ensue following his death.

[angryChineseKahanist]

Ahhh you devil!
You tricked us.
That traitor should be sent to them 'rabs first. Let them eat him alive.

[Lef]

Whenever someone dies, it is always Divine Justice so Sharon will be no exception.

Right from when it was announec, I was opposed to the withdrawal from Gaza. I know well the mentality of our arab / muslim enemies and I knew that they would only consider the withdrawal as a huge "military victory". Besides, if peace if to ever happen, there is no reason why Jews cannot live in any part of Israel's ancestral land.

having said this, I regret to read here that some wish Sharon dead. Please do remember that Ariel sharon is one of the Heroes of Israel. He fought for Israel, not in some headquarters office but right on the front line.

He made a terrible mistake to agree to Bush's "roadmap" which required the shameful withdrawal and the consequent expulsion of Jews from their home. But it is even more shameful to hear any Jew wish him dead.  Please moderate your thoughts and your words.

[Yerusha]

Some years ago they researched his lineage and his autobiography to find out that Sharon is not Halachically a Jew, being a descendant of Russian gentile Subbotniks on his mother's side!

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

Whenever someone dies, it is always Divine Justice so Sharon will be no exception.

Right from when it was announec, I was opposed to the withdrawal from Gaza. I know well the mentality of our arab / muslim enemies and I knew that they would only consider the withdrawal as a huge "military victory". Besides, if peace if to ever happen, there is no reason why Jews cannot live in any part of Israel's ancestral land.

having said this, I regret to read here that some wish Sharon dead. Please do remember that Ariel sharon is one of the Heroes of Israel. He fought for Israel, not in some headquarters office but right on the front line.

He made a terrible mistake to agree to Bush's "roadmap" which required the shameful withdrawal and the consequent expulsion of Jews from their home. But it is even more shameful to hear any Jew wish him dead.  Please moderate your thoughts and your words.

בס''ד

Oh please. May this Judenrat Nazi beast burn in hell forever. Thousands of Jews were murdered because of this subhuman swine and huge parts of Eretz Yisrael were surrendered to the Arab Muslim Nazi enemy. Ariel Sharon yimach shmo ve zichro shem reshaim yirkav.

He who has mercy on the cruel is destined to be cruel to the merciful, Chazal teach us.

May Shimon Peres join Sharon along with all the other self-hating Jewish anti-Semites. Shimon Peres yimach shmo vezichro shem reshaim yirkav.

Amen ken yehi ratzon (amen, it should be His will).

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Lef is probably yet another incarnation of either Homo, Jr. or Rosenfag.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Here's another post from this filthy swine:

http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,26406.msg284176.html#msg284176

1) Tks for your reply.

2) Actually, earlier in the day, I sent a private message to one Administrator to ask for my profile to be removed from this forum. I also included my phone number inviting the person to contact me if he wishes to discuss my concerns. Now I come to check and notice that this is not yet done so I might as well add to my comments.

3) The idea of allowing anything and everything just because the 'other side' does it is not sound. Because, we as jews as the first to complain of antisemitism when the others make fun of us. So if you want to maintain a civilised forum, you must prohibit clear cut racism instead of the 'anything goes' policy.

4) I came here becauise of a link "jews against Obama". Indeed, I was incensed that so many jews are seemingly stupid enough to support this Obama fraudster.

But then, when your forum contains so much racism and obvious biases against blacks, any visitor intending to vote against Obama will think : "oh ... then it is TRUE that the opposition to BHO is due to racism". In other words, the jews against Obama are only against him because of their racist views.  A lot of jews and non Jews will never like this and I assure you it is counter productive.

5) On the website, I saw "Jews for McCain" as well as "Jews for Pallin" and I was delighted to see this.
Then, I come to the forum and what do I see ?  Lots of criticism of the ticket McCain/Pallin because apparently 'they are not pro jews or pro Israel enough ...'

Apart from the fact that is is utter [censored] and slanderous to both McCain and Pallin, how do you reconcile supporting them with criticisizing and slandering them on the forum ? It makes no sense at all !!!

6) When I read the web pages, as well as the forum, I find A LOT of abuse of all sorts of people. Again, I find nothing clever or wise in name calling just about everybody who is not strictly in aligned with Kach.

For example of name calling :  Sharon the bolchevik or Livni tge 'whore' ... etc .. etc ... please do read the website and see for yourself how many people you insult. My question is :  do you think these insults will gain you support within the general jewisg population, let alone the non jews ?  Of course not !

So just about every thing you do ends up being COUNTERPRODUCTIVE and my guess is that you create more enemies than you make friends.

7) this last point is extremely important. Imagine that any client who goes to Wallmart and ends up not purchasing (this time) is insulted on the way out ... do you think this prospective client will ever come back ? Of course not!

In other words, you must learn how to engage people who have a different opinion and even when you cannot convince them (yet?) you must leave the door open for another try later on.

This website fails to do this. As a result, it ends up putting off most reasonable people.

As a jew, a zionist and a person deeply committed to the preservation of jewish principles, I ressent the fact that your actions bring judaism, the jewish people and Israel in disrepute.

I could go on and on and on like that with 100's of examples I have found here. So in the end, I tell myself : "what am I doing here ?"

Lastly, if I did not care, I would not spend time and effort to write all this. I would just let you continue in your mistaken ways. If I were an opponent of your end goal, I would even be happy to see you make so many mistakes.

I trust that this message will incite you and all the group to rethink your presentation. I am 60, which is young enough to be an activist but old enough to recognize a mistake and declare it when I see one. The activists here are probably younger but I have seen enough intelligence among you to change your ways in order to achieve victory over our enemies.

Best wishes,

leon

[Binyamin Yisrael]

Some years ago they researched his lineage and his autobiography to find out that Sharon is not Halachically a Jew, being a descendant of Russian gentile Subbotniks on his mother's side!

Wasn't that the case with Rafael Eitan? Barry Chamish says he was murdered when he was swept away in a storm at the Ashdod Port.

I remember Sharon's son had a baby outside of marriage. Was this because he was a mamzer, from Sharon marrying two sisters? Maybe Sharon's wives weren't Jewish either so that's why his sons couldn't get married to a Jewish woman in Israel. I remember when I was at Hebrew University, Sharon's grandson's brit took place at the French Hill Hyatt Hotel, where a few weeks later, Rechavam Ze'evi was murdered by an Arab Muslim Nazi terrorist.

Sharon named his son Omri, a name forbidden for Jews to give like Nimrod. Why doesn't the mohel explain to the parents that these names are forbidden? King Omri may not have been Jewish. He the father of King Ahab who married Queen Jezebel, who was a Non-Jewish idolatrous murderer of Jewish prophets.

[muman613]

Let me clarify why I posted such a harsh statement...

I am not one who tries to judge others with harshness. But I believe all those who turn their back on Hashems promise of the ENTIRE land of Eretz Yisroel is acting as a traitor to his people. I believe he has suffered in his coma for all these years and in a way this suffering will be included in the calculation of his 'purification' in gehinnom. I know I am judged by very high standards, and I fail to meet many of the ideals which my soul is capable of, thus I am resigned to my own soul punishment process... But my sins seem relatively minor to a person who achieved so much power and position, who used it to harm the Jewish people in the land G-d gave us.

I do pray that if Sharon has a Jewish neshamah that he somehow makes teshuva before his death. But being in a coma makes it hard for us to determine if he ever did.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

I'm not praying for his death, but I did hear, the Messiah will come after his death...

[Sveta]

I'm not praying for his death, but I did hear, the Messiah will come after his death...

That is so interesting because someone was trying to talk to me about rabbi Kaduri and we got into this topic. So now we have something like a wager. We're just waiting for the moment for Sharon to pass away. I know must sound like an awful person.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

That is so interesting because someone was trying to talk to me about rabbi Kaduri and we got into this topic. So now we have something like a wager. We're just waiting for the moment for Sharon to pass away. I know must sound like an awful person.

I was reading about the same thing today... But I heard other Rabbis say after he dies the Messiah will come... I do kinda wonder if it was just a word thing, or if it will bring others to follow HaShem...

[Sveta]

Interesting that other rabbis would say that. I was referring to the libel cast against rabbi Kaduri by people who said he said or believed in certain things. The person who I was talking to is basically one of those people who believe the lies against Kaduri. And when Sharon dies and nothing happens, I will be able to tell this person how right I was. I am hoping it will help dispel the lies against rabbi Kaduri too. 

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

  These are just BS talk. People just make things up and pass it along to other fools that then tell other fools and on and on. Their were other BS claims made in Rav Kaduri's name. Complete non-sense of course. Don't believe anyone who tries to say that Moshiah will come at this or that time. It is all BS. Moshiah will come when we make him come and in fact we need to forget about this whole idea altogether (not about Moshiah) but about the obsession of some santa type figure falling from the sky (or through the chimney) and bringing everyone presents.

[muman613]

  These are just BS talk. People just make things up and pass it along to other fools that then tell other fools and on and on. Their were other BS claims made in Rav Kaduri's name. Complete non-sense of course. Don't believe anyone who tries to say that Moshiah will come at this or that time. It is all BS. Moshiah will come when we make him come and in fact we need to forget about this whole idea altogether (not about Moshiah) but about the obsession of some santa type figure falling from the sky (or through the chimney) and bringing everyone presents.

Why do you think people think Moshiach is like Santa Claus? I have never heard anyone say such a thing about the Redeemer of Israel. I think most people who pray for Moshiach every day know what Rambam says about Moshiach, knows what the sages of the Talmud say about Moshiach, and especially know what the Prophets of Israel say about Moshiach.

It is a principle of Rambam to look forward to Moshiach every day, to never loose our faith in his coming.

It is not a Santa Claus figure which people look forward to. Moshiach will herald the beginning of the next era, and those who are doing the commandments remember the promise of the redeemer.

When is Moshiach coming, we do not know. But to say that it is coming soon is not forbidden. All the sages agree that the time of Moshiach is coming quickly.

[muman613]

Tag,

What is it you propose we do in order to hasten the Moshiach? You do not think that we will not need the redeemer?

Moshiach does not give presents or whatever you are suggesting in your previous post. We all know that Moshiach can come in two ways, through our good deeds and following the commandments, or he can come 'the hard way' if we reject the covenant.

I feel it is important to never forget that Hashem will send us a redeemer. As we have been reading in the Torah portions recently about the redemption from Mitzrayim it is important to never forget the promise of redemption.

[Israel Chai]

Tag,

What is it you propose we do in order to hasten the Moshiach? You do not think that we will not need the redeemer?

Moshiach does not give presents or whatever you are suggesting in your previous post. We all know that Moshiach can come in two ways, through our good deeds and following the commandments, or he can come 'the hard way' if we reject the covenant.

I feel it is important to never forget that Hashem will send us a redeemer. As we have been reading in the Torah portions recently about the redemption from Mitzrayim it is important to never forget the promise of redemption.

I can't know that Sharon's death will hasten the Moshiah, but I won't condemn Jews trying to improve the world...

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

Interesting that other rabbis would say that. I was referring to the libel cast against rabbi Kaduri by people who said he said or believed in certain things. The person who I was talking to is basically one of those people who believe the lies against Kaduri. And when Sharon dies and nothing happens, I will be able to tell this person how right I was. I am hoping it will help dispel the lies against rabbi Kaduri too.

I'm not talking the Joshua thing... I thought he talked about Sharon's death in a speech. ..

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

Muman- us doing Torah and Misswoth, for the sake of doing Torah and Misswoth, (to sanctify G-D's name in the world).