Was Ariel Sharon not buried in a real Jewish cemetery because he was not Jewish?

[Binyamin Yisrael]

Notice the goyish music at the cemetery. I'm not saying that the song is goyish but it is goyish to have music at the funeral. Mourners aren't supposed to hear music for at least the period of Shloshim.

[Binyamin Yisrael]

Notice how one of his sons doesn't have a kippah on his ugly bald head while the Non-Jewish VP Biden does have one.

Was Sharon's wife Jewish? If so, his kids are Jewish. We don't have to worry about if they are mamzerim or not being that Sharon was married to his son's aunt and when she died, he married her sister and had his sons. He married two sisters. But if he's not Jewish, it's only a problem of intermarriage.

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

Notice how one of his sons doesn't have a kippah on his ugly bald head while the Non-Jewish VP Biden does have one.

Was Sharon's wife Jewish? If so, his kids are Jewish. We don't have to worry about if they are mamzerim or not being that Sharon was married to his son's aunt and when she died, he married her sister and had his sons. He married two sisters. But if he's not Jewish, it's only a problem of intermarriage.

I pointed that out earlier (about no Kippa), but on the first vide here he has it on, but then takes it off from 6:20. Seriously I can't believe how some people can't and don't have any shame.

 About Mamzerim though, let's say he was Jewish, if the first wife died and he marry's her sister I don't think the children are Mamzerim because of that. I think its when both are alive (double check that).

[Yerusha]

Some say that Sharon had his first wife (and her son) taken out in order to marry her sister!




 Ha'aretz Reporter Claims Sharon Murdered His First Wife
 


Who is leading the Jews out of Gush Katif? According to Haaretz reporter Uzi Benziman, a vocal advocate of "disengagement:" Ariel Sharon, a wife murderer.   Powerful suspicions that Sharon eliminated his first wife and possibly his first son are widespread. Not so ironically, the accusers are mostly from the "disengagement" supporters of the Left, who made them when Sharon was their bogeyman, not hero.   We begin our journey with the official version of events: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Sharon   Sharon has been widowed twice. Shortly after becoming a military instructor, he married his first wife, Margalith, with whom he had a son, Gur.   Margalith died in an auto accident in 1962, and Gur died in October 1967 after being shot while playing with his father's rifle. After Margalith's death, Sharon married her younger sister, Lily.   Now we hear from an Israel-hating Israeli musician: http://www.gilad.co.uk/html%20files/blood.html   Meanwhile, Sharon's personal life story reveals another spectrum of mystery not many people in the west know about. Sharon's family has been blighted by accidental tragedies with no connection to the region's endless wars. The Prime Minister's first wife, Margalit, was killed in a car accident in 1962, and his eleven-year-old son, Gur, died in a shooting accident in 1967. These are the dry facts.   Few people know that Sharon's second wife, Lily, was actually Margalit's younger sister. At the time there were some vicious rumours that it was Sharon's affair with his wife's sister which led Margalit to suicide. Gur found his death while playing with his father's loaded gun. I myself have neither the means nor the intention to search for the true story of Sharon's family affairs. On the contrary, I would argue that the element of bloody gossip entangled with some libidinal rumours helped to glorify the image of the promising young officer.   Next a poet: http://www.karenalkalay-gut.com/diaryjan12.html   This was idle gossip in the early seventies - Imagine the ladies in Cafe Exodus on a Friday afternoon whispering about the strange death of Sharon's first wife. She drove her car off the road, said one, because she found out her husband was leaving her for her sister, Lily. Someone fixed her brakes, said another.   Next week the ladies are back - see! he's marrying the sister! He got rid of her for sure. That was ALL I knew of Sharon in the seventies - that his wife died under mysterious circumstances.   Now a mystic: http://www.unknownnews.net/cdd090202.html   Sharon's first wife Margalit was supposed to have been killed in a car crash in 1962. His wife's sister, Liala (known as Lily) immediately moved in, to act as a "housekeeper" " a few months later they were married. Then, not many years later, Sharon and Margalit's son Gur (who, depending on which report you believe, was either 9 years old or 11 years old at the time) was accidentally killed playing with one of Sharon's guns.   One report I found from a Middle East magazine says that the story about Margalit dying in a car crash was totally fabricated by Sharon " they claim that the truth is that Margalit killed herself, despondent over the revelation that Sharon and her sister were having an affair.   The direct link to this was expunged, but was fortunately cached in Google (and to be on the safe side, I copied it into a permanent file)  http://216.239.51.100/ search? q= cache:o0_x1NQuD3UC: www.moqawama.org/
 articles/ doc_2002/ autobiography.htm+ margalit+ sharon+ car+
 accident&hl= en&ie= UTF-8   Although there are minor sources of these suspicions, one very major source stands out. He is Uzi Benziman, a reporter with Haaretz: http://www.digitalmediatree.com/dratfink/date/2002/   "When he returned to Israel in 1962 his wife Margalit was killed in a traffic accident. Sharon describes this event with honorable restraint"precisely the same restraint with which he later describes the death of his beloved son Gur, who was killed at the age of eleven when another boy shot him unintentionally with a rifle that was in Sharon's house. But touching as they are, even these two tales require the corrections to be found in Benziman's book. Sharon ascribes his wife's accident to the fact that the car she was driving, which they had brought back from England, had right-wheel drive. But, according to Benziman, many of Sharon's acquaintances believe his wife committed suicide in the accident after discovering that Sharon was conducting an affair with her younger sister Lily, who, shortly after her death, became Sharon's wife and the mother of his children. Moreover, after his son's death Sharon was vengeful toward the boy who had shot Gur, accusing him of intentionally killing him. The boy and his mother, the widow of a pilot, were forced to leave their house, which was near Sharon's."   http://www.pnic.gov.ps/english/Jenin/SharonAutobiography.html   In his autobiography book Sharon says that his wife was killed in a traffic accident, because the steering wheel was an English type, and his son was killed by mistake by another child was playing with Sharon's rifle. The Israeli journalist Uzi Benziman said in his book " Sharon, Caesar of Israel that Sharon pretended to forget that his first wife was not killed in a car accident but she committed suicide when discovered the illicit love affair between Sharon and her sister Leila. After the death of his first wife they, Sharon and Leila, actually got married. Concerning the death of his son, Sharon as Benziman said was not tolerant as he said in his autobiography, with the child's family. On the contrary, he used all kinds of terrorism and brutality against them and forced them to move to another place.    Benziman claimed in his book, Sharon, Caesar Of Israel, that Ariel Sharon deliberately drove his first wife to suicide, and that is murder. This claim has led to broader charges in the Arab media: http://english.daralhayat.com/opinion/OPED/04-2005/Article-2
 0050415-4618ac84-c0a8-10ed-001a-1411782c4c95/story.html   On May 6, 1962, Margalit was driving her car from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv, when she suddenly veered out of her lane. A truck approaching from the opposite direction was unsuccessful in avoiding her. She died. Sharon died when he got the news, however, he remained silent during her funerals.   The police investigation found Margalit responsible for reckless and negligent driving. Friends said that she was in love with Sharon and had a strong sense of jealousy of her own youngest sister, Lilly. Lilly had immigrated to Israel as a youngster and spent her first few years ay Sharon's home. When called up to the army, she served in the Paratroopers Brigade, then under Sharon's command.   Margalit's acquaintances note that during the weeks just prior to the accident, Margalit was once depressed and preoccupied, and had confided to a friend that her life had become miserable as a result of her all consuming suspicion of a liaison between her sister and her husband. Did Margalit die in a common car accident or did she suicide?   A year later on, Sharon married Lilly.   Recently, a right-leaning site joined the fray by declaring suspicions about the death of Sharon's son Gur shortly after Sharon married the boy's aunt: http://web.israelinsider.com/views/6081.htm   In the summer of 1967, eleven-year old Gur Sharon trumped all of his buddies by declaring, "My Abba gave me five guns".   A couple of months later, tragedy struck. On Rosh Hashanah, the first day of the year, Arik Sharon's first-born son, from his first wife, was dead from a bullet wound.   Details are sketchy, but it seems that somehow Gur and a friend managed to get a bullet into the chamber of a shotgun. Arik Sharon was home at the time, and Gur died in his arms.   I don't know what the laws were 38 years ago, but in today's world a "lesser" man may have been brought up on charges of criminal negligence.   Indeed, any honest police investigator would ask why Sharon let his son play with a loaded rifle. Why was he not charged with criminal negligence, as anyone else would inevitably have been?   Thanks, in no small part to Benziman, a new picture emerges of a sociopath murdering his first family so he could start a fresh one with his new wife, the sister of the deceased.   So who is this Uzi Benziman who broke the story of the Sharon family murder(s)? He is now one of the country's leading voices calling for the evacuation of the Jews of Gush Katif. Sharon has few allies so useful to his plans. Let us now hear from Mr. Benziman: http://english.katif.net/index.php?id=98%E2%8A%82=2   Preparations for withdrawal from the Gaza Strip and northern Samaria are not in the public consciousness and have not become central to public discourse. As a result, there is no atmosphere of preparation for something that is really going to happen...The mantle of normalcy worn by these negotiations is a great missed opportunity; it leads to delay which in turn leads to the evaporation of the critical national significance of the decision.   http://www.christusrex.org/www1/news/haaretz-3-28-05b.html   The settlers are rebelling against the rule of law and the authority of the state. As if that were not enough, when the law catches up with them, they act as if they are the ones who have been wronged.   The settlers and their official leadership openly declare they do not accept cabinet and Knesset decisions to withdraw from the Gaza Strip and the northern West Bank. They challenge the legitimacy of these decisions, and there are those among them who declare outright their preference for another source of authority   http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3948873.stm   The decisions on the disengagement plan to be made by the cabinet [on Sunday] and the Knesset on Tuesday may be essential steps, but they will still not ensure its implementation. The demand to prefer halakha [Jewish law] to the law of the land, to exclude Israel's Arab citizens from the process of approving disengagement, to deviate from accepted norms of debate and decision-making, to shut up opposition by means both administrative and juridical, are all clouds that presage the storm.   Violence will later emerge from its lair with all of its destructive force. If the country does not manage to impose its authority on the minority opposing disengagement, it will open the gate to its disintegration.   Commentator Uzi Benziman in Haaretz    In short, Mr. Benziman, believing full well that Sharon murdered his first wife after investigating the crime, is now working for the murderer. In an honest, sane nation with an honest, sane media, Benziman would be demanding a reinvestigation of the murder of Margalit Sharon and his newspaper would be exposing the mad killer leading their nation into catastrophe.   Instead, Uzi Benziman is letting Sharon murder again, this time with his enthusiastic approval. 

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,70183.msg599601.html#msg599601

 This was asked here earlier about Mamzerim- answer is no, not mamzerim is she already died.

[Binyamin Yisrael]

Is this a real site or a joke?

http://www.roitov.com/articles/sharon.htm

It reminds me a little bit of the Church of Rabin and Peace (CRAP). I first came across it in the 1990's. At first I thought it was a Chillul Hashem and a goyish thing to make a church out of Rabin worship but then I realized it was a Right Wing site making fun of Rabin.

http://church-of-rabin.tripod.com

[Binyamin Yisrael]

http://www.roitov.com/articles/sharon.htm

They lie on the site. All religious Jews hold by the "Ultra-Orthodox definition" of Judaism. So does the Israeli Government/Chief Rabbinate. The Law of Return does not say who is a Jew. It says who is given the rights of an oleh chadash. No one claims all the Russian goyim are Jewish. I saw the Teudat Zehut of a Russian goy in ulpan. It said Russian for leum (nationality). Mine says Yehudi (Jewish).

Sharon is a Goy

Much of this article would make no sense unless understanding how Ultra-Orthodox Jews define Judaism. None of them recognizes former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as a Jew. This explains a lot the controversy he still causes in Israel in what probably are the last days of his life.
 
The State of Israel uses the Law of Return in order to define Jews. It adopted a unsatisfactory definition* compared to the one used by Ultra-Orthodox Jews. The latter recognize as Jew only someone born to a Jewish mother or that converted according to the Halakha, the Jewish religious law.+

Ariel Sharon's parents were Shmuel Scheinerman (1896–1956) of Brest-Litovsk and Vera Scheinerman (1900–1988) from Mogilev, both locations are nowadays in Belarus; yet, they met in Georgia after they fled WWI.

His father was Jewish. One of the reasons for the maiden surname of his mother not being in the public domain is that she was not Jewish, she was a Subbotnik. Most followers of this Russian Christian sect practice circumcision, do not recognize the New Testament, and observe Sabbath on Saturday. Their name is derived from the Russian name for Saturday.

After the war, they arrived at Israel through the Third Aliyah movement and settled in socialist Kfar Malal. Vera Scheinerman became Dvora Sharon, and in 1928, Ariel was born. Born to a non-Jew, he is a non-Jew.

What happened afterwards is the stuff legends are made of. Dvora Sharon decided to convert according to the Halakha. She accomplished that. Yet, Sharon was old enough to be asked questions by the Ultra-Orthodox rabbis that converted his mother.

Thus, according to the law, he was asked by the rabbis if he wanted to be a Jew. "No!" young Sharon said and went out to play with the dagger his father famously gave him as a birthday present when the toddler reached the age of 5.

Sharon never converted afterwards; thus he remains a goy. In 2005, there was an attempt to remove him from the Prime Minister office due to this embarrassing part of his past. Yet, Israel does not recognize the Halakha, thus this attempt to throw out the man that returned Gaza to the goyim failed.

[edu]

I also read that it was against Israeli law to bury Sharon's "spouse" in that plot of land and it will be a further violation of Israeli law to bury Sharon there.
But true to the Sharon legacy, he gets away with illegal tricks right now even in death, because his buddies control what laws are enforced and what is not.

[ChabadKahanist]

There was a rabbi officiating at his funeral & no rabbi in Israel would officiate at the funeral of a Goy.
Ipso facto he was a Jew albeit an evil one.

[edu]

According to http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/eitanr.html
Former IDF Chief of Staff Rafael Eitan made a statement putting his own jewish status in doubt.

In 1997, Eitan surprised many Israelis when he announced that his mother was a descendant of the Russian czar's bodyguards, raising the possibility he was not Jewish.

I don't know what took place at his funeral. ChabadKahanist do you know for a fact if in that case, no rabbi officiated at that funeral? Since you claimed:

No rabbi in Israel would officiate at the funeral of a Goy.

Further question for ChabadKahanist. Isn't it possible that a Rabbi could be acting under the impression that Sharon was a Jew and be mistaken about the facts?
Or do you hold that the Rebbe of Lubavitch would have been able to spot an imposter if Sharon wasn't really Jewish and that's why you don't believe the accusation?
Or do you hold simply that until absolute proof comes along to the contrary we have to assume he is a Jew?

[mord]

He was buried on his farm /ranch it's not uncommon

[ChabadKahanist]

According to http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/eitanr.html
Former IDF Chief of Staff Rafael Eitan made a statement putting his own jewish status in doubt.I don't know what took place at his funeral. ChabadKahanist do you know for a fact if in that case, no rabbi officiated at that funeral? Since you claimed:
Further question for ChabadKahanist. Isn't it possible that a Rabbi could be acting under the impression that Sharon was a Jew and be mistaken about the facts?
Or do you hold that the Rebbe of Lubavitch would have been able to spot an imposter if Sharon wasn't really Jewish and that's why you don't believe the accusation?
Or do you hold simply that until absolute proof comes along to the contrary we have to assume he is a Jew?

Indeed it is possible but how probable is it?
Also I think the Lubavitcher Rebbe,ZT"L,ZY"A would have been able to spot out an imposter.
Also Rav Kahane,ZTL"L,ZY"A,HY"D would have said something.

[Binyamin Yisrael]

The Rebbe was not a prophet and neither was Rabbi Kahane. Predicting political events is not the same as prophesy. Chaim always says what will happen but makes sure to point out that he's not a prophet and not the son of a prophet.

[muman613]

Sharon was under the impression he was Jewish...

In his last speech made before his coma he said 'I am a Jew first' and there are pictures of him donning tefillin.



Israel Defense Force general Ariel Sharon was mourning the death of his son Gur, who was killed in a gun accident a short time after the Six Day War. The Rebbe sent a group of his emissaries to bring a letter to Sharon along with a new pair of tefillin. In his heartfelt letter the Rebbe writes: “Another factor that motivated me to write this letter is the tremendous inspiration that you aroused in the hearts of many of our Jewish brethren when you put on tefillin at the Western Wall… May it be G-d's will that henceforth you and your family should know no hurt and pain, and that you should find comfort in your actions in defense of our Holy Land, "the land which G-d's eyes are upon from the beginning of the year to the end of the year," and in your observance of the mitzvah of tefillin.”

http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/timeline_cdo/aid/514851/jewish/Tefillin-for-Sharon.htm

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/176229

"Israel is the only place in the world where Jews have the right and the power to defend themselves, by themselves,” Sharon told his guests. “And as a Jew – and I am first of all a Jew, and that is the most important thing for me – I know that it is not only the only place in the world where we have the right and the power to defend ourselves by ourselves; it's also our duty.”

"I think that each of us is responsible for the future of the Jewish people,” he added. “Our people has existed for about 4,000 years now. And I worry about what will happen in 30 years' time, in 300 years' time, and with G-d's help, in 3,000 years' time. And I don't see it as my personal responsibility, but it is the responsibility of each of you. That's what you have to feel. And that's what we owe to our fathers and forefathers, in order to be able to ensure that the Jewish people will exist.”

Three days after the meeting with MASA, on January 4, 2006, Sharon suffered a massive stroke and he went into a coma, from which he never recovered.

[ChabadKahanist]

The Rebbe was not a prophet and neither was Rabbi Kahane. Predicting political events is not the same as prophesy. Chaim always says what will happen but makes sure to point out that he's not a prophet and not the son of a prophet.

It has nothing to do with prophecy it has to do with wisdom & being able to see through things.
Some people have dealt with all sorts of people for years & can just tell somehow.
I generally can tell if somebody is a Jew or not afer talking to them for a few minutes & I am a nobody.

[muman613]

It has nothing to do with prophecy it has to do with wisdom & being able to see through things.
Some people have dealt with all sorts of people for years & can just tell somehow.
I generally can tell if somebody is a Jew or not afer talking to them for a few minutes & I am a nobody.

This is commonly referred to as 'Jewdar', the ability to feel whether a person is a real Jew or not.

http://www.aish.com/j/fs/48938537.html

I believe it is based on the Talmudic passage which lists the traits of a descendant of Abraham...

http://www.torah.org/learning/pirkei-avos/chapter5-22a.html

"Whoever possesses the following three traits is of the students of our father Abraham, and [whoever possesses] a different three traits is of the students of the wicked Balaam. [Those who have] a good eye, a humble spirit and a 'lowly' soul [are] of the students of our father Abraham. [Those who have] an evil eye, an arrogant spirit and a desirous (lit., 'wide') soul [are] of the students of the wicked Balaam. What is the difference between the students of our father Abraham and the wicked Balaam? The students of our father Abraham enjoy this world and inherit the World to Come, as it is said, 'There is for those who love Me to inherit [in the World to Come], and their storehouses [in this world] I will fill' (Proverbs 8:21). But the students of the wicked Balaam inherit Gehinnom (Hell) and descend into the pit of destruction, as it is said, 'And You, G-d, will bring them down to the pit of destruction, men of blood and deceit; they will not halve their lives. But I will trust in You' (Psalms 55:24)."

[Binyamin Yisrael]

Maybe he seemed to be Jewish because he was an assimilated goy in a Jewish country. It's the opposite of an assimilated Jew in the US.