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Liberal Terminology
« on: February 02, 2014, 03:45:58 AM »
I'm almost reluctant to post this because learning liberal terminology might get you into their mode of thinking which I don't think is necessarily healthy.

 The purpose of speaking is to transfer thoughts from one mind into another mind, and words are the vehicle that is achieved with. However, learning the language
 of your enemy can also help you decode the messages they are sending to each other. So guard your heart and proceed if you want to learn more about liberal
 terminology.

I'll be dealing with gender issues for the next several posts so I think it's important to note that there may be triggers for those who are affected by triggers, so read with caution.

 I'll start with 3 terms to get started, more to be posted later.

 1.Gender

 Conservatives generally think of gender and sex as the same thing. If you see a woman and you are asked what her gender is, you'd say female. If you see her and are asked what her sex is, you'd say female.
 That's because you have a conservative mindset.

 To liberals, it's not the same. Gender refers to how someone "feels" according to liberals. If you feel you're a man then it doesn't matter to liberals if you have female anatomy. To them you have a "male gender".

 This is why you see the current push to have boys being allowed to go into girl's bathrooms and girls being allowed to change in boy's locker rooms, etc. Whatever they feel they are inside is what they
 are according to liberals, regardless of their physical form.

 2. Sex
 Sex is someone's physical form. If they have male anatomy, their physical sex is male. if they have female anatomy, their physical sex is female. This can get confusing because it's not always the same
 as the sex someone is born with. For example if Robert had a sex change operation and transitioned to Roberta, then he would have female anatomy and his physical sex would be female even though that's not
 what he was born with.

 3. Heteronormativity

 Usually, conservatives think of heterosexuality (When men are sexually attracted to women and women are sexually attracted to men) as being the "norm", or "normal".

 Liberals see being heterosexual as being on the same level of normalcy as being homosexual (men being sexually attracted to men or women being sexually attracted to women).

They would also see other sexual orientations besides these two to be just as normal. Basically they don't believe in normalcy or being normal at all. They believe that the idea that heterosexuals are normal and homosexuals (and other orientations) aren't normal, is wrong. They believe that the idea of heteronormativity (that heterosexuals are normal), is a dangerous idea because they feel it promotes discrimination against and hatred toward other orientations. Therefore you might see a liberal say something like:

"Bob only said homosexuality was a sin because he was influenced by the philosophy of heteronormativity".

Liberals don't see homosexuality or other orientations as being deviant from heterosexuality. They see them as being on the same level. They feel that heterosexuality isn't more normal, just more
 "common" than other orientations.

 The conservative point of view is that heterosexuality is what's most natural and normal to human beings and that's WHY it's more common. Liberals seem to think that it is pretty much by chance that
 heterosexuals are more common.

 I'm not advocating a liberal point of view. This is to help conservatives learn the liberal terminology so we can better debate with them. I'll post more terms later.
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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2014, 03:55:10 AM »
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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2014, 03:58:03 AM »
This is serious stuff though. It's not meant to be funny, although I suppose liberalism is by definition funny/stupid, when they're not killing people.

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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2014, 04:12:03 AM »
Why then do they prefer to use "trans-gender" to "transsexual"? Apparently one can not have the wrong gender, the only problem is that the physicality doesn't much, hence it should be even by this terminology transsexual.

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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2014, 04:21:46 AM »
Why then do they prefer to use "trans-gender" to "transsexual"? Apparently one can not have the wrong gender, the only problem is that the physicality doesn't much, hence it should be even by this terminology transsexual.

That's a great question. I think they prefer transgender because some people in transition choose not to have the physical surgery to change their sex but still identify as their preferred gender.

Some people only partially transition (having breast implants, for example) but not fully.

For example a man called Mark Jones believes that inside he's a female. He prefers to be referred to as "she" and puts on makeup and dresses and tells people his name is Mary Jones.  He may or may not be taking hormones to soften his features. He can't afford the surgery or has not been approved for it yet, but he still feels that he has a female gender. Therefore he's transgendered but not yet transsexual.

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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2014, 11:44:06 PM »
4. Gender or sex assigned at birth.

Someone's gender assigned at birth is what the parents and/or medical professionals decide the child's gender is when they are born. Since the baby can't talk yet, this is basically the same thing as "Sex assigned at birth". Notice that the liberals don't say that someone's gender or sex at birth simply is their gender or sex at birth. They say that's their "assigned"gender or sex.

They believe that gender or even sex can change throughout a person's life or be re-assigned.

So let's say that you or your wife gives birth to a baby boy. Liberals would say that the boy is assigned a male sex (based on his anatomy) and male gender (his birth certificate will say male). When the boy gets older, he may continue to identify as a male, or, according to liberals, his gender identity might change. If he later gets surgery to re-assign his sex to female, then his sex will have a different assignment.

Conservatives think of gender and sex as being inherent to the person and set the moment someone is born. So a baby girl will always be female sex and female gendered, and a baby boy will always be male sex and male gendered.

Liberals think of human beings as basically being blank, like dolls. The gender and sex is "assigned" to this otherwise genderless/sexless person, and subject to change over the course of a person's life.

Sometimes liberals too can make the argument that there's something inherent about gender identity or the person's sexual identity or sexual orientations, but only when they are defending transgendered people or people with deviant sexual orientations.

5. Gender identity
This is the gender that the person identifies himself or herself as, regardless of physical anatomy. There are several different gender identities someone can have, but the most common are male or female.
I'll try to explain others in later posts.

6. Sexual orientation
This indicates the type of person or other entity that the person is sexually attracted to. The most common of these would be heterosexuals (attracted to the opposite sex), homosexuals (attracted to the same sex), and bisexuals (attracted to both sexes). There are other types of sexual orientations too that I'll try to explain later.

Important NOTE: Gender identity and sexual orientation are two separate things.

A person who has a male sex assigned at birth might have a female gender identity but be sexually attracted to women. Conservatives would say he has a straight sexual orientation because he's sexually attracted to women and he's a man physically. He would be described by liberals as having a homosexual orientation because of his female gender identity even though he's got a physically male body.

Liberal terminology quiz:
1. Someone who is physically male, self-identifies as female, and is attracted to other people who are physically male is:
A. Homosexual female
B. Homosexual male
C. Heterosexual female
D. Heterosexual male

Conservatives are likely to say that he's B, a homosexual male. This would be based on the fact that he's physically male and he's attracted to other people who are physically male.
Liberals on the other hand, would say just the opposite. They'd say he's C, a heterosexual female. They would say this because his gender identity is female, which to them means he is female. So as a female attracted to males, he (or she, as they would say)
Would be a heterosexual female.

Believe me, it only gets more confusing from here on out, but if you want to be able to debate with liberals, this stuff is important to try to understand. They often define things in exactly the opposite way that conservatives would. This is a great example of that.

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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2014, 03:20:44 AM »
On a something related note, if you type "Is Michael Jackson g" on Google, it doesn't suggest gay. I'm sure many people type that. I tried it and it doesn't. I guess Google is now trying to promote homosexuality. If you type in "Is Justin Bieber h" it suggests homosexual or the new "politically correct" word homophobic.


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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2014, 03:30:26 AM »
On a something related note, if you type "Is Michael Jackson g" on Google, it doesn't suggest gay. I'm sure many people type that. I tried it and it doesn't. I guess Google is now trying to promote homosexuality. If you type in "Is Justin Bieber h" it suggests homosexual or the new "politically correct" word homophobic.

Michael Jackson would be considered to fall under another category. That of "Intergenerational Intimacy" or a "Minor attracted person". These are the liberal buzzwords for pedophiles. Pedophiles are going to be normalized next after homosexual marriage and the adoption of children by homosexuals is more fully accepted by society.

Even a lot of regular liberals will say that's gross and isn't true, but the liberal elite and some LGBT activists and left wing politicians are pushing this agenda. The liberal rank and file will come into line given time enough to be brainwashed by their elites.

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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2014, 03:12:14 PM »
Will they also push for legitimizing adult men with pre-teen girls? Or would the feminists among them say that's sexist? Or what about adult women with pre-teen boys?

I say pre-teen because it's not abnormal for an adult to be attracted to a teenager. Under Jewish Law, someone is considered an adult at the age of Bar and Bat Mitzvah. Obviously, someone a young teenager should only be with someone over 18 in marriage. But Secular Law prohibits marriage for people under 18 without parental consent and under Judaism we have to follow the Secular Law unless Secular Law tells us to brake Halacha. But it is normal for men to be attracted to teenage girls (Maybe not 13-15 year olds but at least from 16, teenage girls would be attractive for adult men.).


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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2014, 09:09:14 PM »
Will they also push for legitimizing adult men without pre-teen girls? Or would the feminists among them say that's sexist? Or what about adult women with pre-teen boys?

I say pre-teen because it's not abnormal for an adult to be attracted to a teenager. Under Jewish Law, someone is considered an adult at the age of Bar and Bat Mitzvah. Obviously, someone a young teenager should only be with someone over 18 in marriage. But Secular Law prohibits marriage for people under 18 without parental consent and under Judaism we have to follow the Secular Law unless Secular Law tells us to brake Halacha. But it is normal for men to be attracted to teenage girls (Maybe not 13-15 year olds but at least from 16, teenage girls would be attractive for adult men.).

The first step will be pushes to lower the age of consent, whatever that currently is. Some areas do have an age of consent that's 16 but pedophile advocates are pushing to lower this number. Any particular number might seem arbitrary but if it's allowed to get too low then the pedophiles can always argue for it to be just one year lower. This is why it should be a relatively high number.

Feminists don't care about women's rights. Remember that sex and gender are fluid to them and not something inherent to the person.

They care about pushing the left wing agenda. If they cared about women's rights they would be anti-Islam.

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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2014, 09:16:33 PM »
The definitions today will be about different types of Gender identities according to liberal defintion. This is not the same thing as sexual orientation. Someone can be any gender and be considered as straight, homosexual, etc. This is also not the same thing as physical sex. The gender identity doesn't always match someone's physical anatomy.

7. Female
This applies to someone who believes that they are female, regardless of physical anatomy. This can apply to a woman who self-identifies as female, as well as a man who self-identfies as female, etc.

8. Male
this applies to someone who believes they are male, regardless of physical anatomy. This can apply to a woman who self-identifies as male, as well as a man who self-identifies as male, etc.

9. Genderqueer
This applies to someone who is somewhere in between the male/female "binary". They may identify as 50% male and 50% female, or some other combination.

Genderqueer people might also change their identity from time to time, feeling more male on some days and more female on others. Genderqueer is an umbrella term for every gender identity that doesn't neatly fit into male or female, so many of the following definitions will also fall under genderqueer.

10. Agender
An agendered person feels they have no gender. They may try to look androgynous. They don't really identify as either male or female but simply as a human person without a gender assignment.

11. Neutrois
This is a person who is agendered and doesn't want to display the physical traits of the sex they were born with. For example a neutrois woman might want to have her breasts reduced because it is a sign of her being female to have larger breasts.

12. Bigender
A bigendered person feels they have two different genders. They might switch from being male to female depending on the situation they're in. For example they may be a man at work but a female at home, or some friends may know them as a woman while others know them as a man.

13. Trigender
This is very similar to Bigender except that there are three genders involved and the behavior may switch around more. Sometimes they may feel between male and female, sometimes they will be male, and sometimes they will be female.

14. Pangender- Pangendered people feel they are all genders at the same time. They feel male and female and everything in between.

15. Transgender - This is someone whose gender assigned at birth does not match their current gender identity. A woman who feels that she is a man inside is transgender even if she never has any kind of external surgery to change her physical sex. Some genderqueer people who feel in between the sexes also consider themselves to be transgender because they were assigned either male or female at birth and they don't feel that assignment describes them how they are now even though they don't feel completely male or female.

16. Third gender
Some societies recognize a third gender in addition to male or female. For example the hijras of India are considered part of a third gender.

17. Cisgender- Someone who is cisgendered has the same physical anatomy as their gender identity. For example, a woman who has a female gender identity, or a man who has a male gender identity. This is what most conservatives would call "normal people". Most people reading
this will be cisgendered as are most people in the world.

18. Cisnormativity
This is the idea that conservatives have that cisgendered people are normal and other gender identities are abnormal. Much like "heteronormativity" described in an earlier post.

Liberals use this word to say that the philosophy of cisnormativity leads to discrimination against people of other gender identities. They believe there is no such thing as normal and that cisgendered people are just more common.

Conservatives believe that cisgendered people are the normal, natural default position of humans and that's why they are more common.

I think this is a strange term because it ends up making the normal people the "sissies".

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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2014, 10:16:30 PM »
Some people believe that they are birds, others believe they are rocks or trees...

This makes them crazy, it doesn't make them birds, rocks, or trees...

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2014, 10:37:37 PM »
Some people believe that they are birds, others believe they are rocks or trees...

This makes them crazy, it doesn't make them birds, rocks, or trees...

Great point! You're absolutely right Muman. One of the points brought up when the subject of transgender children is raised is that children like to pretend to be all kinds of things, including animals and fantasy creatures too.

Conservatives like us believe that if someone is female, they are a female, and if someone is male, they are a male, but liberals see gender as fluid and subject to change.

I'm sharing this information because I want JTFers and other conservatives to be informed about liberal terminology so they can understand these terms when they run across them and be able to debate more effectively.

It's very possible that you may be one day debating with a "Genderqueer" person who accuses you of being biased toward cisnormativity and heteronormativity. If you don't know what these terms mean it will be hard to respond to them in any meaningful way.

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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2014, 12:03:49 AM »
Isn't queer supposed to be a slur? Or is it like they can say it and it's okay but if we say it, it's "homophobic" just like blacks and the N word?

The first time I saw the word "LGBT" was in college where some professors' offices would have a sticker on the door that said "LGBT Safe Zone". Notice how they put L first because they are feminists and think the female part goes first even though generally, people list a man first, like Mr. and Mrs. or male/female. It also works that way in grammar in languages like Hebrew or French. A male and a female in the plural would be the plural male form. The plural female form would only be for a group of females and no males.

Didn't people usually say "gay and lesbians"? I guess since they are feminists, they think female gays need a separate word. It also works the same in slurs. Faggot and dyke are separate words.

Either way they hijacked an English adjective and a Greek island. The latter part can be like Al Sharpton called all Greeks homos.

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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2014, 08:32:16 AM »
Isn't queer supposed to be a slur? Or is it like they can see it and it's okay but if we say it, it's "homophobic" just like blacks and the N word?

Queer means a lot of things to them. It can be a slur meaning they are weird/abnormal if used against someone of a non-heterosexual orientation.
Example: "I don't like queers!"

The liberals have reclaimed this term though and it can also be used as a mark of pride by them. "Queer pride" is sometimes used in a similar way to the phrase "gay pride" but is more inclusive because it includes all deviant sexual orientations.

Since a genderqueer person considers themselves to be neither completely male nor completely female, they really are "queer".

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The first time I saw the word "LGBT" was in college where some professors offices would have a sticker on the door that said "LGBT Safe Zone". Notice how they put L first because they are feminists and think the female part goes first even though generally, people list a man first, like Mr. and Mrs. or male/female. It also works that way in grammar in languages like Hebrew or French. A male and a female in the plural would be the plural male form. The plural female form would only be for a group of females and no males.

Usually that's true. I actually got into a debate with one of my instructors a few years ago about the fact that male pronouns can be gender-neutral when referring to a group. For example "Everyone in the class must bring his book on trigonometry to math class tomorrow." There could be both male and female students in the trig class, but there is no need to add on the wordy/unnecessary "or her". Now English instructors are teaching that you must say "his or her" or "her or his" in a sentence like that rather than the females being included by simply using a more efficient wording. When I was younger to use phrasing like that would get points taken off your paper for wordiness. Now they say to leave those extra words out is to be sexist. I explained to my instructor that females were already included but she didn't seem to understand this. She said what I learned in the past was the old way of doing things and they have a new set of rules for English now.

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Didn't people usually say "gay and lesbians"? I guess since they are feminists, they think female gays need a separate word. It also works the same in slurs. Faggot and dyke a separate words.

Technically they're not really the same though. Obviously due to the different anatomy two gay men will be doing different acts with each other than two lesbian women. The lesbians might have tools to compensate but it will never actually be the same as what two men do with each other. So I can see why they might want a separate term or why a separate term might be more accurate.

The word "homosexual" is more neutral and includes both gay men and lesbian women.

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Either way they hijacked an English adjective and a Greek island. The latter part can be like Al Sharpton called all Greeks homos.

I think the reason Al Sharpton said that is that ancient Greece is known for having artwork that displays the beauty of young men/boys and also had a culture in which homosexual acts were accepted. Of course that doesn't mean that back then all Greek people were homosexuals and it certainly doesn't mean that all of them are now.

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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2014, 07:36:39 PM »
Al Sharpton supports homosexuality. I remember that when he spoke at the Michael Jackson memorial, he told Jackson's "kids" not to listen to what people say because "there was nothing weird about your father". I say Sharpton himself is weird. I remember seeing a picture of him on a JTF video on ZooTube where he in some hair salon with his head in one of those things that women put their hair inside. I remember Chaim saying Sharpton uses hair straighteners and that white tax payers shouldn't pay for it but he actually goes to the hair salon and puts his head inside.


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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2014, 07:57:22 PM »
Al Sharpton supports homosexuality. I remember that when he spoke at the Michael Jackson memorial, he told Jackson's "kids" not to listen to what people say because "there was nothing weird about your father". I say Sharpton himself is weird. I remember seeing a picture of him on a JTF video on ZooTube where he in some hair salon with his head in one of those things that women put their hair inside. I remember Chaim saying Sharpton uses hair straighteners and that white tax payers shouldn't pay for it but he actually goes to the hair salon and puts his head inside.

That's pretty funny!

Remember though that liberals don't see anything weird about any deviant sexual activities, no matter how depraved. So Al Sharpton would also likely see Michael Jackson's pedophile activities as not being "weird".

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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2014, 08:01:21 PM »
The definitions today will be about sexual identities. This is the physical form rather than the gender identity. Both liberals and conservatives would recognize the first three as being valid.

19. Male sex assigned at birth.
This means that the person has male anatomy, and usually male secondary characteristics. They will have male genitalia, and after puberty they will have a deeper voice, more muscles, more facial hair, and other male characteristics.

 20. Female sex assigned at birth.
This means that the person has female anatomy, and usually female secondary characteristics. They will have female genitalia, and after puberty they will have enlarged breasts, a menstrual cycle, a higher pitched voice than males, less facial hair than males, and other female characteristics.

21. Intersex
This one is more tricky. Some people are born with what's called "ambiguous genitalia". What this means is that it's hard for the doctors to tell right away if the baby is a boy or a girl. This can be caused by a very small penis or a very large clitoris that's hard to differentiate. Some people have organs that are somewhere in between ovaries and testicles. Some people have genetic or other conditions that cause them to be somewhere in between male and female. This is a real physical thing that liberals didn't make up and there are various conditions that can cause people to be somewhere in between physically.

22. Transsexual
This is someone who wants to transition away from their "Sex assigned at birth" to another physical sex. For example a man might want to physically transition to a woman and this would be called a MtF (male to female) transsexual. If a woman wants to physically transition to a man, they are called an FtM (female to male) transsexual.

 23. Transman
 This is a woman who is transitionining or has transitioned to be physically male.

 24. Transwoman
 This is a man who is transitioning or has transitioned to be physically female.

Note: The above two definitions are the opposite of what you might expect them to be. A transman is not a man and a transwoman is not a woman. A transman is someone who was born female and a transwoman is someone who was born male.

The transman is called that because they are now physically male and the transwoman is called that because they are now physically female.

25. Top surgery
This involves breast reduction for women to create a more male appearance. It can also involve breast implants for men, but usually men will develop female looking breasts if they are given female hormones. They might get implants if the hormones don't create large enough breasts for their preference.

 26. Bottom surgery.
 This involves surgery on the genitalia to create the appearance of male or female anatomy.

 27. Other transitional tools: hormone therapies, laser hair removal for men, plastic surgery to make the face look more masculine or feminine, implants around the body to change the shape of of the hips, etc.

 Some men will have a dangerous surgery done to shorten their vocal chords so they don't have to speak in a falsetto to sound female.

 28. Neuter

These are people who have had external signs of being male or female removed from their bodies. This may or may not involve genital surgery. Some men for whatever reason desire castration without wanting to transition into a female form for a variety of reasons ranging from gender identity issues to wanting it for other reasons. Some people have also been sentenced to such alterations by their government's justice system.

It should be important to note that some people have been genitally altered when this was not an attempt to transition them from male to female or female to male. Examples of this type of altering would be male and female circumscision. Male circumscision is very different from what is often called female circumscision (female circumcision is always abusive and mutilation) but both are types of genital-altering surgery which are not linked to trying to transition to a different gender identity. These are not the same thing as altering the genitals to change someone's gender or sexual identity.
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2014, 10:50:20 PM »
Do the people that have what they call "sex changes" have sexual feelings after their sex organs were removed? Specifically, do the males have such feelings from their deviant sexual attractions after their genitals were removed? I can understand how females may have such a feeling after becoming what they consider to be a "man" because the female reproductive organs are internal while the male organs are external. I always thought that a man with no testicles couldn't have a sexual feeling so wouldn't that be the case with a man that becomes what he considers to be a "woman"?


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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2014, 11:01:16 PM »
We should call it Homosexual Mythology.

Just like there is pagan mythology, there is also "Biblical Criticism" mythology [Where mythological beings such as the Elokist (They write h rather than k.) and the Hashemist (What they call J as in J witness.) that are mythological writers of the Bible in their mythology and yet they have the nerve to call the Bible mythology.], PLO mythology (With terms like Palestine, Palestinian, West Bank, Al-Quds, and Nablus.), there is no a whole homosexual mythology with their own belief system. This is their own religion that they created since they reject G-d. Out of the above three mythologies, the first is polytheistic, the second is atheist, the third is monotheistic (Islam), and the fourth is another form of atheism.


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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2014, 08:07:35 AM »
Do the people that have what they call "sex changes" have sexual feelings after their sex organs were removed? Specifically, do the males have such feelings from their deviant sexual attractions after their genitals were removed? I can understand how females may have such a feeling after becoming what they consider to be a "man" because the female reproductive organs are internal while the male organs are external. I always thought that a man with no testicles couldn't have a sexual feeling so wouldn't that be the case with a man that becomes what he considers to be a "woman"?

I'm going to try to be tactful as much as possible here. Sensation is preserved most of the time.

Here's a link with some more information. It is written by a liberal and uses a lot of the words I've defined in this thread:
http://goaskalice.columbia.edu/gender-reassignment-surgery

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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2014, 08:23:32 AM »
We should call it Homosexual Mythology.

Just like there is pagan mythology, there is also "Biblical Criticism" mythology [Where mythological beings such as the Elokist (They write h rather than k.) and the Hashemist (What they call J as in J witness.) that are mythological writers of the Bible in their mythology and yet they have the nerve to call the Bible mythology.], PLO mythology (With terms like Palestine, Palestinian, West Bank, Al-Quds, and Nablus.), there is no a whole homosexual mythology with their own belief system. This is their own religion that they created since they reject G-d. Out of the above three mythologies, the first is polytheistic, the second is atheist, the third is monotheistic (Islam), and the fourth is another form of atheism.

That's an interesting way of looking at it. Liberals seem to make a religion out of liberalism in general. Certainly all these gender and sexuality topics are very important to them, but some of the others are also important.

One of the major reasons people need God is that they need God to guide them morally. Liberals don't want morality, normalcy, or any kind of standard of behavior to exist. Some individual liberals would argue with this, as they certainly have their own ideas of ethics, social justice, etc. but they will not line up with what we as conservatives think is moral, ethical, or just.

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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2014, 09:29:53 AM »
I would not get into such depth arguing with a liberal.
Why legitimize words and ideas they choose, co-opt, or make up in an attempt to legitimize deviant behavior?
You are never going to convince them of your beliefs.
We better concentrate on educating our young...before they do.
And talking to children does not have to include educating them on every deviant behavior there is.
That is what is being done to them.  With clubs in schools like the Straight and Gay Friendship Clubs.  Propaganda.
You have to try to remind them what is expected of them from G-d (based on the religious upbringing they have) and from you.
You can be decent to others...that doesn't mean you have to accept their lifestyle.  That is what I try to tell my child.
We must prepare children to have a backbone and not follow the herd.
Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2014, 09:45:18 AM »
I would not get into such depth arguing with a liberal.
Why legitimize words and ideas they choose, co-opt, or make up in an attempt to legitimize deviant behavior?
You are never going to convince them of your beliefs.
We better concentrate on educating our young...before they do.
And talking to children does not have to include educating them on every deviant behavior there is.
That is what is being done to them.  With clubs in schools like the Straight and Gay Friendship Clubs.  Propaganda.
You have to try to remind them what is expected of them from G-d (based on the religious upbringing they have) and from you.
You can be decent to others...that doesn't mean you have to accept their lifestyle.  That is what I try to tell my child.
We must prepare children to have a backbone and not follow the herd.

I know that this thread might make some people uncomfortable. These are terms that come up on a daily basis in news stories, politicians speeches, liberal propaganda, etc.

We had to learn some of their code words already to be able to understand that.

For example, most conservatives are aware that "Pro choice" and "A woman's right to choose" means abortion. That might seem to be an obvious example but a lot of these other terms/code words are just as important to understand and decode but are not as well known by conservatives.

Another example would be how "illegal aliens" have turned into "Undocumented immigrants" or "undocumented workers". The latter phrases change the game in a sneaky way. Gone is the negative connotation of "illegal", because according to liberals "No human is illegal". It also puts the focus on the fact that these people don't have legal documents. Giving illegal aliens documents doesn't fix the problem. That's called amnesty. However if all you have to do to change an "undocumented worker" to a "documented worker" is to give them amnesty, this tricks people into thinking amnesty is the solution, simply by a change in words.

Ask people if they are for making illegal aliens legal and many people will say no. Ask people if they are for giving documents to undocumented workers and many of those same people will say yes. Words like this are important to understand for this reason.

I noticed a lot of conservatives have no idea what these terms mean when it comes to gender identity/sexual orientation, etc. especially when they mean the opposite of what they seem to mean. So I am trying to help decode these terms. I spent time researching this and I'm trying to make the liberal's word game crap not work as well since we will not be confused by them but will know what they are actually saying.

I'm not legitimizing these terms. I'm teaching what these terms mean because we need to be able to decode the stuff that liberals are saying and some of it has completely opposite definitions to what we think they might mean.

Young people will learn the liberal definition of these words.

Imagine that a conservative has a teen son who is having a gender identity problem. The conservative parent tells the child that being heterosexual is the right way to be according to the Bible. The child might respond that they ARE heterosexual.

If the parent then sees the son acting in a romantic way with other males then the parent might not understand why their child just claimed to be heterosexual. This puts the parent a disadvantage because the parent and son are quite literally speaking two different languages.

Whenever possible I try to give both the conservative and liberal definitions so that people can see how they are different.

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Re: Liberal Terminology
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2014, 10:25:20 AM »
Let me take one of the terms that I am going to post about tonight and expand on it a little more as another example. The term "Allies".

Young people, especially in liberal anti-bullying campaigns, are being encouraged to be "LGBT allies". What this means is that these straight people are being recruited to serve the left wing cause of disrupting society through promoting and normalizing homosexuality and other deviancies.

They may think that what they are doing is simply being a sympathetic ear to someone who is being bullied but in reality they are being recruited to serve the left wing's agenda.

Now think about the choice of the word "Allies". What's the opposite of allies? Enemies. So basically if you're not declaring yourself an "Ally" then to the liberals you must be an "enemy" of anyone with a different sexual orientation. This makes for a very black and white stance.

Take this article for example
http://www.nationofchange.org/exclusive-rubio-says-it-should-be-legal-fire-someone-being-gay-1371216610

In the article, relatively liberal Republican, Rubio, is basically made out to be a KKK member because he doesn't believe that "LGBT" people should have special protections. He's not an "ally", therefore he's an "enemy".

Most of the words are tricky like this. They are dangerous and destructive. They have power to manipulate the way people think and warp people's worldviews.

That's why we need to understand them so we can counter them.
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