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Offline ChabadKahanist

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Plenty of Watermelon in Israel
« on: April 16, 2014, 11:54:59 PM »
An open invitation for Sudanese,Eritreans that occupy South Tel Aviv & The Black Hebrew Israelites from Chicago that occupy Dimona.
Only thing they are missing is fried chicken restaurants.

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Re: Plenty of Watermelon in Israel
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2014, 11:58:09 PM »
I was going to comment the same thing when I saw the title.

They used to have KFC in Israel. I liked the kosher one in Jerusalem.


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Re: Plenty of Watermelon in Israel
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2014, 12:53:31 AM »
I was going to comment the same thing when I saw the title.

They used to have KFC in Israel. I liked the kosher in Jerusalem.
Only place they still exist in Israel is in the Arab occupied areas like Bethlehem & so on & they are halal not kosher unlike the one that used to be in the Jerusalem mall.

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Re: Plenty of Watermelon in Israel
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2014, 10:16:26 AM »
Only place they still exist in Israel is in the Arab occupied areas like Bethlehem & so on & they are halal not kosher unlike the one that used to be in the Jerusalem mall.


Why did they close in Jerusalem? Did the Arabs threaten to boycott? They are owned by the same company that owns Pizza Hut and Taco Bell. The one in Jerusalem had a glass partition separating it from Pizza Hut. In the United States, it is common for the same restaurant to be KFC and Taco Bell at the same time or Pizza Hut and Taco Bell at the same time, maybe also Pizza Hut and KFC. Pizza Hut still exists in Israel. All the other American chains closed. Sbarro went out of business in Israel. Burger Ranch closed Burger King. Hopefully there will be a new one someday. There was an article that said the new owner of Burger King wants to go back to having branches in Israel.


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Re: Plenty of Watermelon in Israel
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2014, 10:33:21 AM »


Why did they close in Jerusalem? Did the Arabs threaten to boycott? They are owned by the same company that owns Pizza Hut and Taco Bell. The one in Jerusalem had a glass partition separating it from Pizza Hut. In the United States, it is common for the same restaurant to be KFC and Taco Bell at the same time or Pizza Hut and Taco Bell at the same time, maybe also Pizza Hut and KFC. Pizza Hut still exists in Israel. All the other American chains closed. Sbarro went out of business in Israel. Burger Ranch closed Burger King. Hopefully there will be a new one someday. There was an article that said the new owner of Burger King wants to go back to having branches in Israel.
I think because not enough people patronized KFC.
I heard that rumor about BK as well.

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Re: Plenty of Watermelon in Israel
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2014, 10:58:00 AM »
An open invitation for Sudanese,Eritreans that occupy South Tel Aviv & The Black Hebrew Israelites from Chicago that occupy Dimona.
Only thing they are missing is fried chicken restaurants.

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Aren't the Hebros strict vegetarians?

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Re: Plenty of Watermelon in Israel
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2014, 11:41:18 AM »
Aren't the Hebros strict vegetarians?
More than that they are vegans at least the ones in Dimona.
The ones in the US aren't all vegans like the Yowee Kazowees.

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Re: Plenty of Watermelon in Israel
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2014, 03:34:25 PM »
Sorry CK.

 He talks about Israel, Arabs. He has health insurance in Israel as well (talks about it).
 This is a mixed thing, I like and appreciate him trashing and exposing Arabs and Arab culture though.

.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Plenty of Watermelon in Israel
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2014, 04:00:20 PM »
Watermelons are one of the foods which the Children of Israel longed for in the desert along with cucumbers...

Numbers 11:5

5. We remember the fish that we ate in Egypt free of charge, the cucumbers, the watermelons, the leeks, the onions, and the garlic.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Plenty of Watermelon in Israel
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2014, 04:25:47 PM »
Watermelons are one of the foods which the Children of Israel longed for in the desert along with cucumbers...

Numbers 11:5

5. We remember the fish that we ate in Egypt free of charge, the cucumbers, the watermelons, the leeks, the onions, and the garlic.

 Many say it was the Erev-rav and not Bnai Yisrael. When it says "Ha-am" some say it means its talking about the erev-rav. Same with the Golden Calf.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Plenty of Watermelon in Israel
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2014, 05:18:21 PM »
Many say it was the Erev-rav and not Bnai Yisrael. When it says "Ha-am" some say it means its talking about the erev-rav. Same with the Golden Calf.

Tag,

I am aware that the Sin of the Calf was mostly due to the Erev Rav but I have not heard it said that the complaining was from the Erev Rav... Most commentary I read (including Rashi) say that this complaint was from the Bene Israel...

4. But the multitude among them began to have strong cravings. Then even the children of Israel once again began to cry, and they said, "Who will feed us meat?       ד. וְהָאסַפְסֻף אֲשֶׁר בְּקִרְבּוֹ הִתְאַוּוּ תַּאֲוָה וַיָּשֻׁבוּ וַיִּבְכּוּ גַּם בְּנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל וַיֹּאמְרוּ מִי יַאֲכִלֵנוּ בָּשָׂר:

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Plenty of Watermelon in Israel
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2014, 06:43:04 PM »
Many say it was the Erev-rav and not Bnai Yisrael. When it says "Ha-am" some say it means its talking about the erev-rav. Same with the Golden Calf.


Maybe Am Ha'Aretz.


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Re: Plenty of Watermelon in Israel
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2014, 06:45:20 PM »


Maybe Am Ha'Aretz.

Tag is correct, Ha Am (The Nation/People) refers to the erev rav according to the sages...


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Parshas Ki Sisa - Parah

God told Moshe, "Go down. Your people which you brought out of Egypt have corrupted themselves." (Shemos 32:7)

Ah, the Erev Rav, where would the world have been without them? Where would the world be without them today? In Yemos HaMoshiach, that's where. All that went wrong for the Jewish people in the desert was instigated by the Mixed Multitude, just as God had forewarned Moshe Rabbeinu back in Egypt, on the way out.

And now, in this week's parshah, their coupe de grace: the golden calf. Had it not been for the Erev Rav, the Jewish people would have waited peacefully at the foot of the mountain in their camp below for Moshe Rabbeinu to return with the Word of God. Maybe they would have asked, "What's taking him so long?" and been a bit concerned.

But, they certainly would not have responded with idol worship and licentious behavior. Only the Erev Rav, as intelligent as some of them may have been at the time, could do something so dumb at Mt. Sinai. It is always amazing how a bad trait can lay waste to intelligence, even use it to engineer one's own destruction. We're watching the very same thing happen today as well.

Interestingly enough, another name for the Erev Rav was "HaAm," or "the people," as noted above. In fact, Chazal say that every time the Torah refers only to HaAm, which, on a simple level, can apply to the Jewish people as well, it is really a direct reference to the Erev Rav themselves. Hence, when the verse says:

After Pharaoh sent the people away. God did not lead them through the land of the Philistines . (Shemos 13:17)

the Ohr HaChaim HaKadosh says that it refers to the Erev Rav, whom Pharaoh sent along with the Jewish people to cause precisely the kind of trouble they cause in this week's parshah.

Of all the nicknames to give to a troublesome people, HaAm is not so bad. At least, that is what one might think at first, until one considers that they are not supposed to be an "um," that is, a separate nation. They were Egyptians who, because of the Bris Milah Yosef, as Viceroy, had the Egyptians perform to get grain during the famine, became converts to the way of Avraham, Yitzchak, and Ya'akov. By the time they left Egypt, there should have been no trace of a different origin.

In other words, the name HaAm was a way of denoting the lack of integration into the Jewish people by these Egyptian converts, evidenced by how quickly they reverted to Egyptian ways in this week's parshah. And, having not fully integrated into the Jewish people meant, means, that the conversion process was not complete on all levels, and therefore, that they remained a divisive force within Klal Yisroel.

In other words, in this case, HaAm is not compliment, but an indication of the Erev Rav's propensity to be divisive. If k'ish echad b'leiv echad1 describes the ultimate state of Jewish unification, HaAm, in reference to the Erev Rav, alludes to just the opposite. And, it has been by sowing disunity amongst Jews that the Erev Rav has been most successful in keeping us from fulfilling the ultimate dreams of our nation.

And, make no mistake about it: the Erev Rav comes in various different forms and types of people. In fact, the Zohar discusses in great detail five different categories of Erev Rav (Bereishis 25a), and all of them can have an application in every kind of Jewish community you can think of. And, as different as one group might be from the other, they all have one thing in common: they put themselves before the nation.

Therefore, says the Zohar, they can give charity, lots of it, even build synagogues and Torah study houses, but to act as base for their name plaque. Secondary to the good name they will receive for being so philanthropic is the good their actual contribution will do for the people for whom it is intended.

Or, they can take an activist role on behalf of some cause, or even specifically, a Jewish cause. But, if you truly analyze what they are doing, no matter how well-intentioned they make themselves appear on the surface, it is their personal mandate that they attempt to fulfill, not the national one of the Jewish people. Indeed, as they work on behalf of the Jewish people they in fact work against the Jewish people, often using their money and political clout to force their ways and means.

If they had their own flag, the golden calf would be their emblem in its middle. And, just as Amalek was the antithesis of Moshe Rabbeinu, the Erev Rav is just a derivation of that very antithesis. The trait of Moshe Rabbeinu was Netzach, which meant that everything he did was for the sake of Eternity. The Erev Rav simply lived for today, investing all of their energy in the physical pleasure of the moment.

The golden calf embodied this approach to life. A calf represents playful youthfulness, and gold represents longevity. In short, the golden calf represented man's desire to never grow up and take responsibility for himself and the world, so that he can party round the clock. And, when Moshe Rabbeinu came back down the mountain in this week's parshah caring the antidote for such a lifestyle, that's exactly what he found going on in the camp below: a wild party.

This week is also Parashas Parah, so the maftir jumps to Parashas Chukas, where we find the laws concerning the procedure of the Red Heifer, necessary for a person who has become defiled by contact with a dead body, or implements that have. We read it now because of the closeness of Pesach, but its juxtaposition with the reading of the sin of the golden calf couldn't have been better timed, for like Moshe Rabbeinu himself, it is the antithesis of the Erev Rav and all that they stand for.

First of all, it is red, and not gold. If gold represents longevity, then red, the color of blood, represents human vulnerability and frailty. If a calf represents wistful youthfulness, then a heifer represents responsible adulthood, the ability to wear a yoke and to channel energy in a meaningful and productive manner. If the golden calf represents eternal youth, but really results in early death, the Red Heifer looked like death, but actually resulted in a return to life.

Hence, the Red Heifer and the golden calf represent two extremes on a single continuum, and therefore, the ongoing challenge of the Jew, indeed of all mankind. We are caught in an ongoing internal battle between the drive for immediate pleasure and satisfaction, and long term gain. It is a battle that not only defines us as individuals, but as a nation as a whole:
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14