Ummmmm, Until Shiloh Comes, you must not be listening to all the Ask JTF programs. While Chaim did say a few months ago that Calling the rabbi names was unhelpful, on a more recent show he was asked about it and he was much more lenient in regards to calling specifically Ovadia Yosef names. He said on the JTF fORUM, PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID TO ATTACK OVADIA YOSEF AND IT IS ACCEPTABLE HERE. Until Shiloh Comes, you seem to be very selective in your criticism, completely ignoring the fact that I was called names, guaranteed that I would burn an hell and you said nothing to condemn the fact that Chaim ben pesach was slandered. I am sure you would love to ban me because I am more right wing than you but you have to understand that banning me would hurt the forum more than it would hurt me. Sure I would Miss the forum if I was banned but then their would be a very small number of people who would be willing to stick up for Chaim. Their are only a handful of people who I have seen be willing to give it their all in support of Chaim. I know it is sometimes fun to flex your muscles and to threaten banning upon a member but you have to understand that it is not punishing me. I would miss everyone on this forum greatly and I plan on being a JTF member for life but if I am banned because I am uncompromisingly right wing then I am OK with that. I will not water down my message and I will not cease to defend myself for fear of being banned and I am sure many of the friends I have made on here would not be happy to see me banned. Please check with Cahim Ben Pesach himself and see what he says about my message. Don't make the decision on your own.
Hello DownWithIslam, and good day.
As is usually the case with you DWI, you concoct a strawman, and proceed to debate it. Firstly you claim that I've specifically criticized you and only you. The record shows I
NEVER mentioned anyone's name in my initial reply, and that I admonished everyone in this thread to remain mindful that they are amongst friends, and that personal attacks will not be tolerated from anybody. The name-calling, casting to hell etc... were things I specifically brought up in the spirit of defending you DWI, yet you choose to completely ignore it, and suggest I‘m picking only on you. I'm not shocked at all.
The second strawman is the idea that you're "more right wing" than I am. Something you conjured up in your own imagination because I don't throw around accusations and attack my friends personally in the manner that you have. You have NO concept whatsoever of my political leanings that would justify that claim, DWI. What I can tell you is that for the 7+ years I've been supporting JTF, I've never heard Chaim utter a word about our Constitutional system that disagreed with my own understanding. "Right-wing" has nothing to do with attacking, anger, and implacability as you seem to think. It has to do with your system of socio-political beliefs -- and mine are as right wing as anybodies.
The last straw man is the idea that I would "love" to ban you. When have I ever struck you as the type to throw around ban's as whimsically as you throw around insults? I'm not you DownWithIslam, believe that. I have no desire to "flex my muscle", since I consider every user on this forum an ally -- again,
UNLIKE you.
My initial post stands, and if I see the personal attacks continue then I will delete posts, and move to disciplinary action if necessary. I have asked for nothing except common decency. Criticize all you want, but personal attacks of the type in this thread against fellow forum members is not allowed. If I see you or anybody else bashing long-standing forum members it will not be tolerated.
Kindest regards as always,
Christopher
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