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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #100 on: August 16, 2007, 08:45:41 AM »
taren id reply to this convo but im laughing too hard at this guy...



I'd laugh at you if it weren't for the remorse I feel for you and others like you, who are so deeply rooted in secularism and are so anti-torah that you deny truths held dear to the Jewish people for millenia, under the guise of intelligence and free-thinking. I would venture that some frum jew [censored] you off when you were younger, or you got a bad image of frum jews from israeli media.
im not anti torah at all, im against sacrificing people for it and worshiping it with zeal, im basically anti- you.

I want to sacrifice people? I don't worship torah, i worship g-d..big difference.
yes you sacrifice people for the torah, and how do you know you worship G-d? did he tell you?

There is not a single case of human sacrifice sanctioned by the torah..G-d himself sent a ma'alach to stop Avraham from sacrifcing Yitzchak on the akeida, remember? probably not.
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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #101 on: August 16, 2007, 08:47:41 AM »
taren id reply to this convo but im laughing too hard at this guy...



I'd laugh at you if it weren't for the remorse I feel for you and others like you, who are so deeply rooted in secularism and are so anti-torah that you deny truths held dear to the Jewish people for millenia, under the guise of intelligence and free-thinking. I would venture that some frum jew [censored] you off when you were younger, or you got a bad image of frum jews from israeli media.
im not anti torah at all, im against sacrificing people for it and worshiping it with zeal, im basically anti- you.

I want to sacrifice people? I don't worship torah, i worship g-d..big difference.
yes you sacrifice people for the torah, and how do you know you worship G-d? did he tell you?

There is not a single case of human sacrifice sanctioned by the torah..G-d himself sent a ma'alach to stop Avraham from sacrifcing Yitzchak on the akeida, remember? probably not.

are you THAT dumb to believe im talking about Aztec style sacrifices?
are you THAT THICK?!

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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #102 on: August 16, 2007, 08:49:14 AM »
G-d doesn't take sides, that's anthropomorphism, he does that he does, and maybe if fewer people like you existed, we may have won that war. You anthropomorphize g-d a lot..i thought that was against your so called "enlightened" agnosticism?

Fewer people like me existed? but there are millions of me around, what are you going to do, exterminate them? we may have won the war if billions going to settlements would have gone to the infantry soldiers for equipment, or maybe soldiers who had to baby sit settlers 24/7 and didnt have time to actually train for combat, maybe things would have been better.

"You anthropomorphize g-d a lot..i thought that was against your so called "enlightened" agnosticism?"

Then you have no clue what an agnostic is, shocking...

Agnostics typically teach that if g-d exists, he is so beyond fathoming that he is not like a man at all. And you claim to be one of them..something tells me you're just confused, and that you latched on to the first idea of G-d that doesn't require any responsiblity whatsoever that you saw.

When I said what I said about people like you, I meant that if the Jews had greater merit, then we maybe would not have suffered the way we did, that your kefirah and your actions that you do as a result of it are dangerous to the klal. Extermination has no grounds in Torah, i don't know why you would think such a thing.

Agnostics typically is defined as a person who is open to the concept of a G-d or gods, but not a spesific one, there for i can be open to the idea YOUR G-d exists, just as i am open to the idea an Indian G-d exists... etc. etc.

"then we maybe would not have suffered the way we did", how typical, blame me for 2000 years of hardship, and not the G-d who promised you other wise, you need a scape goat so your belief wont fade away, the scapegoat just happens to be me.

"Extermination has no grounds in Torah", thats disputed, but since i am not an expert you can enlighten me about Amalek.

Generally speaking, agnostics tend to have an idea of G-d, and a very convenient one at that. If a person believes that everything G-d does is just, he does nto need a scapegoat. I do not blame you for the hardships, I blame your ideas, and people like you throughout histroy, ranging from the chayt ha'egel, to  modern times.

Wiping out Amalek is a totally different story, as you were referring to jewish people, the torah does not say that we can wipe out jewish people(im giving you enough credit to know what an eir hanidachas is, but even in this case it was extremely rare that an entire city would turn to idolatry)
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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #103 on: August 16, 2007, 08:50:30 AM »
taren id reply to this convo but im laughing too hard at this guy...



I'd laugh at you if it weren't for the remorse I feel for you and others like you, who are so deeply rooted in secularism and are so anti-torah that you deny truths held dear to the Jewish people for millenia, under the guise of intelligence and free-thinking. I would venture that some frum jew [censored] you off when you were younger, or you got a bad image of frum jews from israeli media.
im not anti torah at all, im against sacrificing people for it and worshiping it with zeal, im basically anti- you.

I want to sacrifice people? I don't worship torah, i worship g-d..big difference.
yes you sacrifice people for the torah, and how do you know you worship G-d? did he tell you?

There is not a single case of human sacrifice sanctioned by the torah..G-d himself sent a ma'alach to stop Avraham from sacrifcing Yitzchak on the akeida, remember? probably not.

are you THAT dumb to believe im talking about Aztec style sacrifices?
are you THAT THICK?!

Well remember since me and you are morons, and since both of us are stupid when it comes to the bible, me claiming it was god himself who told Abraham to sacrifice his child as a test will be false? but i guess i must have picked that one out of a cartoon on the lefty T.V...

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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #104 on: August 16, 2007, 08:52:22 AM »
...meanwhile I patiently await an answer to my question...
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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #105 on: August 16, 2007, 08:54:26 AM »
taren id reply to this convo but im laughing too hard at this guy...



I'd laugh at you if it weren't for the remorse I feel for you and others like you, who are so deeply rooted in secularism and are so anti-torah that you deny truths held dear to the Jewish people for millenia, under the guise of intelligence and free-thinking. I would venture that some frum jew [censored] you off when you were younger, or you got a bad image of frum jews from israeli media.
im not anti torah at all, im against sacrificing people for it and worshiping it with zeal, im basically anti- you.

I want to sacrifice people? I don't worship torah, i worship g-d..big difference.
yes you sacrifice people for the torah, and how do you know you worship G-d? did he tell you?

There is not a single case of human sacrifice sanctioned by the torah..G-d himself sent a ma'alach to stop Avraham from sacrifcing Yitzchak on the akeida, remember? probably not.

are you THAT dumb to believe im talking about Aztec style sacrifices?
are you THAT THICK?!

Well remember since me and you are morons, and since both of us are stupid when it comes to the bible, me claiming it was G-d himself who told Abraham to sacrifice his child as a test will be false? but i guess i must have picked that one out of a cartoon on the lefty T.V...

You are, unbelievably, correct in saying that G-d himself originally told avraham to sacrifice yitzchak, what difference does that make? it was a test of his faith, but not one which G-d wanted him to carry out evidently.
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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #106 on: August 16, 2007, 08:57:37 AM »
...meanwhile I patiently await an answer to my question...

you want me to write down a single sentence like "kill all muzzies" or something?
how did we win WW2, how did the US get rid of the communists?

were fighting a global war, and we WILL win, we will destroy radical islam because we have superior firepower, motivation, intellect and resources.

we will defeat them wherever they are, i am not a general and neither are you, there is no single answer to "how we beat them", thats like telling a child "those guys are bad guys", its simplifying things for a simple mind, i hold you higher then that.

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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #107 on: August 16, 2007, 08:58:13 AM »
Well youre the one who asked SSN if he "remembers", as in "you probably dont have a clue", we are sorry to dissapoint you.

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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #108 on: August 16, 2007, 09:07:13 AM »
Quote from: SSN link=topic=7833.msg70465#msg70465 date=
Quote from: HiWarp link=topic=7833.msg70460#msg70460 date=
...meanwhile I patiently await an answer to my question...

you want me to write down a single sentence like "kill all muzzies" or something?
how did we win WW2, how did the US get rid of the communists?

were fighting a global war, and we WILL win, we will destroy radical islam because we have superior firepower, motivation, intellect and resources.

we will defeat them wherever they are, i am not a general and neither are you, there is no single answer to "how we beat them", thats like telling a child "those guys are bad guys", its simplifying things for a simple mind, i hold you higher then that.
You presume that I am looking for an all encompassing simple answer to a complex problem.  You are mistaken in your presumption.  Perhaps I should have clarified.  Did we win WW2 by allowing Germans and Japanese to immigrate into England and the U.S. during a time of war?  Did we beat the communists by being afraid to name who and what the enemy was because of political correctness.  Do you believe the way we go about fighting this "global war" today is correct?  Do you believe that the U.S. should not have dropped two atomic bombs on Japan when they had the chance and instead fought a long, protracted war resulting in the deaths of millions?
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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #109 on: August 16, 2007, 09:11:49 AM »
Quote from: SSN link=topic=7833.msg70465#msg70465 date=
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...meanwhile I patiently await an answer to my question...

you want me to write down a single sentence like "kill all muzzies" or something?
how did we win WW2, how did the US get rid of the communists?

were fighting a global war, and we WILL win, we will destroy radical islam because we have superior firepower, motivation, intellect and resources.

we will defeat them wherever they are, i am not a general and neither are you, there is no single answer to "how we beat them", thats like telling a child "those guys are bad guys", its simplifying things for a simple mind, i hold you higher then that.
You presume that I am looking for an all encompassing simple answer to a complex problem.  You are mistaken in your presumption.  Perhaps I should have clarified.  Did we win WW2 by allowing Germans and Japanese to immigrate into England and the U.S. during a time of war?  Did we beat the communists by being afraid to name who and what the enemy was because of political correctness.  Do you believe the way we go about fighting this "global war" today is correct?  Do you believe that the U.S. should not have dropped two atomic bombs on Japan when they had the chance and instead fought a long, protracted war resulting in the deaths of millions?

there were germans and japanese in the US during these times, the japanese were put into camps, this solved NOTHING, its a dark chapter in american history, and i myself questioned if it really was unnecessary, and it was according to history.
we must remember muslims arent a single entity, but yes we must crackdown harder on militant ones in our nations and indeed everywhere, this does not mean put ALL muslims in camps.

i support the decision to bomb hiroshima and nagasaki, but remember how many years it took to reach japan? they had to conquer islands and make a safe route in order to deliver the killing blow, this is a metaphor to how we cant just go around nuking the muslim extremists, its a delicate process of war.

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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #110 on: August 16, 2007, 09:44:04 AM »
Quote from: SSN link=topic=7833.msg70475#msg70475 date=
Quote from: HiWarp link=topic=7833.msg70472#msg70472 date=
Quote from: SSN link=topic=7833.msg70465#msg70465 date=
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...meanwhile I patiently await an answer to my question...

you want me to write down a single sentence like "kill all muzzies" or something?
how did we win WW2, how did the US get rid of the communists?

were fighting a global war, and we WILL win, we will destroy radical islam because we have superior firepower, motivation, intellect and resources.

we will defeat them wherever they are, i am not a general and neither are you, there is no single answer to "how we beat them", thats like telling a child "those guys are bad guys", its simplifying things for a simple mind, i hold you higher then that.
You presume that I am looking for an all encompassing simple answer to a complex problem.  You are mistaken in your presumption.  Perhaps I should have clarified.  Did we win WW2 by allowing Germans and Japanese to immigrate into England and the U.S. during a time of war?  Did we beat the communists by being afraid to name who and what the enemy was because of political correctness.  Do you believe the way we go about fighting this "global war" today is correct?  Do you believe that the U.S. should not have dropped two atomic bombs on Japan when they had the chance and instead fought a long, protracted war resulting in the deaths of millions?

there were germans and japanese in the US during these times, the japanese were put into camps, this solved NOTHING, its a dark chapter in american history, and i myself questioned if it really was unnecessary, and it was according to history.
we must remember muslims arent a single entity, but yes we must crackdown harder on militant ones in our nations and indeed everywhere, this does not mean put ALL muslims in camps.

i support the decision to bomb hiroshima and nagasaki, but remember how many years it took to reach japan? they had to conquer islands and make a safe route in order to deliver the killing blow, this is a metaphor to how we cant just go around nuking the muslim extremists, its a delicate process of war.
Whether the Japanese internment camps were successful or not is debatable.  I do not believe that ALL Japanese in the U.S. were the enemy but don't doubt that some were.  The challenge is how to differentiate?  You state that "we must crackdown harder on militant ones in our nations and indeed everywhere, this does not mean put ALL muslims in camps."  How do you distinguish the militant Muslims?  The flaw in your logic is that, to do both, is impossible.  Yes, you can use intelligence and attempt to infiltrate the militant ones, but this is unreliable at best and at worst not supported by a segment of the population based on civil rights violations.

Also, the fact that Muslims already live in the U.S. does not address the insanity of continuing to let Muslims immigrate to the U.S. and to keep the borders unprotected.

My question about the atomic bomb was not meant to insinuate that we should nuke the Muslim world.  It was to convey a mindframe that existed then that said we will use anything at our disposal to defeat our enemy, no matter how cruel it is deemed to be by some.  I do not believe this mindframe exists today.

As far as I'm concerned, we appear to agree that the west is facing a huge problem and that we need to defeat it.  We probably do not agree on the method to do so.
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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #111 on: August 16, 2007, 10:42:15 AM »
It's clear from reading these exchanges that these left, secular Israelis have NO IDEA how to win. It's clear from post-Oslo history that they have NO IDEA how to win.

Yes, the secularists of 47-67 knew how.............but this geneation does not!

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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #112 on: August 16, 2007, 01:17:38 PM »
are you Israeli Hilonim? you should seach lectures by Rav Amnon Yitzhak, if not listin to just one lecture by Rav Mizrahi and tell me if you dont belive (know) in the Torah.

divinenformation.com , or Kolyakov.org - their are lectures titles "divine information" or "Proof That Torah is Divine I and II" . after seeing it, please try to disprove even one of the points, I dont belive that after seeing it you still will have doubts.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #113 on: August 16, 2007, 01:18:25 PM »
are you Israeli Hilonim? you should seach lectures by Rav Amnon Yitzhak, if not listin to just one lecture by Rav Mizrahi and tell me if you dont belive (know) in the Torah.

divinenformation.com , or Kolyakov.org - their are lectures titles "divine information" or "Proof That Torah is Divine I and II" . after seeing it, please try to disprove even one of the points, I dont belive that after seeing it you still will have doubts.
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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #114 on: August 16, 2007, 01:24:54 PM »
are you Israeli Hilonim? you should seach lectures by Rav Amnon Yitzhak, if not listin to just one lecture by Rav Mizrahi and tell me if you dont belive (know) in the Torah.

divinenformation.com , or Kolyakov.org - their are lectures titles "divine information" or "Proof That Torah is Divine I and II" . after seeing it, please try to disprove even one of the points, I dont belive that after seeing it you still will have doubts.
I'm also Hiloni for now ...

That's OK (for now), Dexter. You have Ahavat Yisrael, patriotism, courage, barzel and a desire to WIN against evil.

The problem with Israelis like these other two is that they seek the path of appeasement, defeat and suicide because of self-hate and moral confusion.
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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #115 on: August 16, 2007, 01:36:31 PM »
are you Israeli Hilonim? you should seach lectures by Rav Amnon Yitzhak, if not listin to just one lecture by Rav Mizrahi and tell me if you dont belive (know) in the Torah.

divinenformation.com , or Kolyakov.org - their are lectures titles "divine information" or "Proof That Torah is Divine I and II" . after seeing it, please try to disprove even one of the points, I dont belive that after seeing it you still will have doubts.
I'm also Hiloni for now ...

That's OK (for now),

never say that, the people who tell you that what you are doing is okay can be the worst enemy for a person.  I like listining to people who tell me what im doing is wronge, they are the ones who can and do really help me becuase then I see that its wronge and try with G-ds help to change. Im not 100% okay, but we should allways strive to be the best.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #116 on: August 16, 2007, 01:38:25 PM »
are you Israeli Hilonim? you should seach lectures by Rav Amnon Yitzhak, if not listin to just one lecture by Rav Mizrahi and tell me if you dont belive (know) in the Torah.

divinenformation.com , or Kolyakov.org - their are lectures titles "divine information" or "Proof That Torah is Divine I and II" . after seeing it, please try to disprove even one of the points, I dont belive that after seeing it you still will have doubts.
I'm also Hiloni for now ...

then those lectures would be great for you (actually also for everyone).
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #117 on: August 16, 2007, 01:51:40 PM »
are you a fan of the movie "the gladiator", ssnn?

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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #118 on: August 16, 2007, 01:53:56 PM »
are you Israeli Hilonim? you should seach lectures by Rav Amnon Yitzhak, if not listin to just one lecture by Rav Mizrahi and tell me if you dont belive (know) in the Torah.

divinenformation.com , or Kolyakov.org - their are lectures titles "divine information" or "Proof That Torah is Divine I and II" . after seeing it, please try to disprove even one of the points, I dont belive that after seeing it you still will have doubts.

I LOVE Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi's stuff! I've been alternating between Ask JTF and Divine Information lectures in the car each day. I got a really cool car radio that reads MP3s off a USB drive. Traffic doesn't even phase me these days. I actually look forward to it and I learn a lot.
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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #119 on: August 16, 2007, 01:56:38 PM »
are you Israeli Hilonim? you should seach lectures by Rav Amnon Yitzhak, if not listin to just one lecture by Rav Mizrahi and tell me if you dont belive (know) in the Torah.

divinenformation.com , or Kolyakov.org - their are lectures titles "divine information" or "Proof That Torah is Divine I and II" . after seeing it, please try to disprove even one of the points, I dont belive that after seeing it you still will have doubts.

shkoyach tzvi for posting that, i'd recommend the series I did on youtube about the torah's divinity as well http://youtube.com/vulcanmat613
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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #120 on: August 16, 2007, 02:00:47 PM »
I'm going to check that out. Do you this series?
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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #121 on: August 16, 2007, 02:08:24 PM »
I'm going to check that out. Do you this series?

Yeah, I did a series called "argument for the torah's divinity" a few months back..baruch hashem it helped 2 jews find torah.
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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #122 on: August 16, 2007, 02:28:24 PM »


Its amazing how deeper and deeper you learn the Torah the more secrets you find and the more one can be simply amazed. Even within the pshat of many of the events in the Talmud you are able to learn deeper insights and profound secrets.
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The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #123 on: August 16, 2007, 02:45:51 PM »
Its amazing how deeper and deeper you learn the Torah the more secrets you find and the more one can be simply amazed. Even within the pshat of many of the events in the Talmud you are able to learn deeper insights and profound secrets.
 - for example last night I was reading Likutei Moharan and their was an
thanks for commenting on my videos tzvi, it's greatly appreciated!
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Re: So Where did Arabs come from?
« Reply #124 on: August 16, 2007, 05:47:40 PM »
Its amazing how deeper and deeper you learn the Torah the more secrets you find and the more one can be simply amazed. Even within the pshat of many of the events in the Talmud you are able to learn deeper insights and profound secrets.
 - for example last night I was reading Likutei Moharan and their was an
thanks for commenting on my videos tzvi, it's greatly appreciated!

They are great videos.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/