Recording Proves that USS Liberty was an accident

[EagleEye]

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JERUSALEM - New Information Regarding USS Liberty Released. Newly declassified transcripts back up Israel's claim that its sinking of the USS Liberty, a U.S. spy ship, during the 1967 Six Day War was an accident, a Florida judge who has been investigating the case for 16 years said last Wednesday. According to news reports, Miami Judge A. Jay Cristol received transcripts of transmissions from two Israeli helicopter pilots sent to check for survivors after the attack. The pilots referred to the ship as Egyptian and were surprised to discover it was flying an American flag. A National Security Agency summary of the incident says the Israelis were confused over the stricken ship's identity more than an hour after the attack. The Israeli daily Haaretz, which first reported the disclosures in its Wednesday edition, quoted Cristol as saying the tape transcripts were the last classified intelligence about the Liberty.

[EagleEye]

http://www.internationalwallofprayer.org/A-201-US-Agency-Confirms-Sinking-of-USS-Liberty-was-Accident.html

U.S. Agency Confirms Sinking of USS Liberty
Was Accident
by Nathan Guttman, Haaretz Correspondent, July 09, 2003
WASHINGTON -- New documents released this week by America's National Security Agency support Israel's version of a
long-festering controversy between the two countries.  Israel's sinking of an American spy ship, the USS Liberty, off the coast
of Gaza during the 1967 Six-Day War.

Israel has always said it had no idea the ship was American, but conspiracy theorists and anti-Israel propagandists still claim
Israel sank the ship in the full knowledge that it was American.

The documents, originally defined as top secret, were made public by Florida Judge Jay Cristol, who has been investigating
the Liberty incident for years and published a book on the subject last year.  On Monday, the NSA gave him a transcript of
conversations held by two Israeli Air Force helicopter pilots who were hovering over the Liberty as it was sinking, and these
tapes confirm Israel's claim that the sinking of the ship, which killed 34 American servicemen and wounded 171, was a tragic
error.

After the Liberty was bombed by both the Israel Air Force and the Israel Navy, the two helicopter pilots were summoned
from their base to assess the damage and evaluate the possibility of recuing the surviving crew members.  An American spy
plane, which had been sent to the area as soon as the NSA learned of the attack, recorded their conversations, which took place
between 2:30 and 3:37 P.M. on June 8, the third day of the war.

The spy plane also recorded the orders radioed to the pilots by their supervisor at Hatzor Base, which instructed them to
search for Egyptian survivors from the "Egyptian warship" that had just been bombed - thus supporting Israel's claim that it
had believed the ship was Egyptian when it ordered it attacked. "Pay attention.  The ship is now identified as Egyptian," the
pilots were told.

Nine minutes later, Hatzor informed the pilots that it was not an Egyptian warship, but an Egyptian cargo ship.  Only at
3:07 were the pilots first informed that the ship might not have been Egyptian at all:  Hatzor told them that if they found
Arabic-speaking survivors, they should be taken to El-Arish, but if they found English-speaking survivors, they should be
taken to Lod.  "Clarify by the first man that you bring up, what nationality he is, and report to me immediately," the
supervisor instructed, according to the transcript.  "It's important to know."

Then, at 3:12, one of the pilots informed Hatzor that he saw an American flag flying over the wounded ship.  He was asked
to investigate and determine whether it was really an American ship.

This is not the first time such transcripts have been made public:  Israel gave its own recordings of the pilots' conversations to
the British television station Thames in 1987.  But conspiracy theorists charged that Israel had doctored the tapes before
handing them over to the station in order to hide the fact that it sank the Liberty intentionally.  No such imputation can be
made about these new transcripts, as they were never in Israeli hands.

Israel has always said it attacked the Liberty, which America sent to the region to gather intelligence on the progress of the
war, because it believed it was an Egyptian supply ship ferrying supplies to the Egyptian troops that Israel was then fighting.
When it discovered the error, it immediately informed the Americans, apologized and paid compensation to the victims'
families.

The incident was investigated by inquiry commissions in both Israel and the United States, and both concluded that it had,
indeed, been a tragic error.  Nevertheless, the controversy never died.  In 1979, one of the survivors, James Ennes, published
a book accusing Israel of bombing the American ship deliberately.  Ennes claimed an Israeli spy plane had hovered over the
ship all morning and had surely identified it as American, since the American flag was clearly visible.

A later book, written by James Bamford, charged that Israel sank the ship in order to keep America from learning of its
plans to attack Syria, and further claimed that the NSA had tapes of conversations among Israeli pilots that not only
confirmed this, but also proved that the tapes released by Israel had been doctored.

Another claim that appears frequently on the dozens of Internet sites devoted to the affair is that Israel sank the ship to
conceal a mass murder of Egyptian soldiers on the Sinai peninsula.

In its letter to Cristol, the NSA stressed that, contrary to the claims that often appear in such books and Web sites - that the
agency has tapes from both the Liberty and from a nearby American submarine that confirms Israel's guilt - the only tapes
that exist were those made by the spy plane and given to Cristol this week.

"Its the last piece of intelligence that remained classified, and every rational person that will read it will understand that there
is no truth in these conspiracy theories against Israel," Cristol said Tuesday.  But he added: Those who hate Israel, who hate
Jews, and those who believe in conspiracy will not be convinced by anything."

Cristol, a former U.S. navy pilot and legal officer, began investigating the Liberty incident 14 years ago.  Since publishing his
book, which vindicates Israel, he has received threats and been accused of being an Israeli agent.  "I take this lightly, but I am
saddened to learn that there is this kind of hate toward Israel," he said.
IMRA - Independent Media Review and Analysis
Website: www.imra.org.il

[newman]

All the evidence in the world won't convince the anti-semites. They'll say the evidence is false and put up by the zionist conspirators.

[Shoshana]

All the evidence in the world won't convince the anti-semites. They'll say the evidence is false and put up by the zionist conspirators.

Absolutely. I've debated Jew haters in forums about the USS Liberty incident many times. No amount of evidence will prove to them it was an accident as they are too blinded by their hatred of Israel and the Jews in general.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I'm not sure it even existed. You only ever hear about it from Nazis. If it was an actual incident we would read about it in textbooks at some stage.

[mosquewatch]

As an American, when Israel has enemies that are hades bent on the extermination of every Jew in Israel....

It is logical and rational thought to understand the Israeli Military made a mistake. Friendly fire happens all the time. Better safe than sorry. While muslims, on a daily basis blow everything and anything up in the name of allah, the idiots deflect the real problem to a non issue. YES A NON ISSUE.

The Nation of Israel since it's inception have not had a history of bombing USA ships, on the other hand, google the barbary pirates. Muslims have been bombing the USA since our beginning.

nazi vermin and conspiracy idiots, tin foiled hat wearing morons are fools.

[EagleEye]

I'm not sure it even existed. You only ever hear about it from Nazis. If it was an actual incident we would read about it in textbooks at some stage.

It surely happened, but it wasn't done on purpose, all the evidence says it was by accident.

[Trumpeldor]

My understanding is that the Israelis thought it was a Soviet spy ship, sending signals to Egypt.

An alternative explanation is that Israel knew it it was an American ship, but it was helping Israel's enemies on a State Department order. This would explain why Israel had no choice but to bomb it and why the U.S. government steers clear of drawing attention to Israel's 'treachery'.

It is absolutely absurd that Israel would knowingly attack an American ship, unprovoked. The allegation that Israel wanted to frame somebody just doesn't hold water, pardon the pun. Would they want to give the U.S. a casus belli?

[EagleEye]

Well based on the recordings, the Israelis didn't know...and I think the recordings are the best source I've seen yet, it surely is more trustable, than the word of soldiers who are naturally angry.

[Gruzinit]

Truth has never stopped anti-semites from making their ridiculous accusations.

As the saying goes "A Jew is a only individual who can be accused of being a capitalist and a communist, at the same time, by the same person."

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I am far from sold that the Liberty "incident" even happened. Anti-Semites aren't exactly known for not spreading tall tales.

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

better question is "why does the US have a spy ship off the coast of Israel?", They have no right to spy on us  so long as they keep Pollard in jail