Author Topic: What change in tactics does Cruz need, if he failed in friendly South Carolina? (Read 2801 times)

edu · « **on:** February 21, 2016, 02:30:35 AM »

In a state that has a strong percentage of evangelicals and with a huge "get out the vote" campaign, he still lost.
It seems to me he needs to find some new issue to make himself more appealing.
I am biased, but I would like him to come out with statements that prove his sincere in supporting Biblical Zionism.
I would like him, for example, to support, Jewish political prisoners. I would like him to support Jewish rights to the Temple Mount. I would like him to support a plan to transfer Arab population out of Israel and out of Syria to some distant third country. I would like him to come up with some concrete plan to support and impose Biblical social values, instead of just trying to stop the Courts from getting worse.

edu · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2016, 05:01:18 AM »

Normally I would let a non-Jewish politician figure out what's best for him on his own without offering any advice.
Based on the precedent of Baba Ben Buta, in Talmud, Baba Batra, pages 3b 4a, I viewed this as an exception.
I think I'm right but it is possible to object, so at least I thought I'd explain myself.

Israel Chai · « **Reply #2 on:** February 22, 2016, 02:53:00 PM »

The only real argument they have for Trump with Cruz at a disadvantage can be expressed in the oft repeated verse, "Joseph cried". Almost every second line Joseph is mentioned in Torah, it's to say he cried. Why was Joseph crying alot? He wasn't afraid to show his emotions. He kept doing it as the president of Egypt.

Trump expresses his opinions in a reactionary style, and even though to a seasoned marketer like me, I recognize every little tactic, and how every absurd message is really to endear him to segments of the population and make him look good where he or others are weak, he makes it look emotional and authentic.

Cruz has stuck to a strict campaign plan, and as impressive as it is, he's also strictly regulating his emotions, and is being the stereotype as much as possible of a strong leader. It's hurting him.

Cruz did a pretty silly ad where he tried out for Simpsons characters, and I couldn't help but wishing that he showed that happy and sort of quirky aspect of his personality more. People would relate to it like they do the characters on that big bang show.

To finish, everyone can tell if you're not emotional about this race, you're a phony. The stakes are the country's economy, and nuclear genocide. People want to know that their politicians are with them on the issues, and it hurts me every time I see Cruz swallowing down his feeling before he replies to a comment from a focus group, because they would love him all the more if he just laid it all out bare, stayed respectable, but wasn't afraid to let his emotions fall out of his eyes and mouth.

The closest thing I've seen him come to it besides that ad is taking on Trump. You really felt a connection to Cruz by how strong his emotions were in regards to the disaster that has been and may continue to be Donal Trump.

So as strange as it'll sound to someone who doesn't already know, for the same reason that Joseph was so beloved in Egypt, Cruz needs to break down his learned inhibitions, and cry.

Israel Chai · « **Reply #3 on:** February 22, 2016, 02:55:32 PM »

Also, I got an email from the campaign, and it was like (personal) and wasn't. There are other campaign messages he's sent out, like a cheque made out to the campaign that stupid people will hate him for, because they almost fall for it, and then don't want to vote for Cruz because he tricked them. Stupid people are an important voting block, and efforts should be increased so as not to offend them.

Israel Chai · « **Reply #4 on:** February 22, 2016, 03:02:37 PM »

And don't let democrats vote in Rep. primaries, http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/6/angry-republican-leaders-ready-to-shut-door-on-ope/

Israel Chai · « **Reply #5 on:** February 22, 2016, 05:17:43 PM »

Good move http://therightscoop.com/breaking-ted-cruz-fires-campaign-communications-director-rick-tyler/

edu · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2016, 05:52:20 PM »

I have a risky idea that just maybe Cruz might be willing to try because he's an underdog in this struggle.
Namely, to come out with a statement that in principle as revenge for all the Muslim extremism going on in Israel and throughout the world, that he would support the government of Israel if they would decide to remove all the mosques on the Temple Mount.
If he wants to go with the same idea but slightly less risky. Some of the Mosques on the Temple Mount were illegally built after the so-called peace treaty with Jordan. He at the very least might be able to come out with a statement against those mosques. He could then tie it into the idea that he would give Israel backing to tear down all illegal building by the Muslims done in Israel, that Israel is too afraid to touch because of Obama.
Advantages: Gigantic Media Attention and Energizing the base. G-d would be happy.
Disadvantages: He would have to double his security against Muslim violence. The media will also try to portray him as too extreme.

Israel Chai · « **Reply #7 on:** February 22, 2016, 06:08:03 PM »

It would definitely draw a line in the sand between him and Tr.mp.

Chiram · « **Reply #8 on:** February 22, 2016, 06:40:18 PM »

Instead of praising Reagan and Scalia, Cruz could focus more on defending the values of the Founding Fathers against islam and socialism.

Hillary confuses islam with freedom and Trump is a corporate socialist.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #9 on:** February 22, 2016, 11:45:08 PM »

Quote from: edu on February 22, 2016, 05:52:20 PM

I have a risky idea that just maybe Cruz might be willing to try because he's an underdog in this struggle.
Namely, to come out with a statement that in principle as revenge for all the Muslim extremism going on in Israel and throughout the world, that he would support the government of Israel if they would decide to remove all the mosques on the Temple Mount.
If he wants to go with the same idea but slightly less risky. Some of the Mosques on the Temple Mount were illegally built after the so-called peace treaty with Jordan. He at the very least might be able to come out with a statement against those mosques. He could then tie it into the idea that he would give Israel backing to tear down all illegal building by the Muslims done in Israel, that Israel is too afraid to touch because of Obama.
Advantages: Gigantic Media Attention and Energizing the base. G-d would be happy.
Disadvantages: He would have to double his security against Muslim violence. The media will also try to portray him as too extreme.

Not sure that this would work. Remember the reaction to Gingrich saying there are no Fakestinians four years ago.

Rashi · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2016, 01:31:39 AM »

At this point Cruz needs to attack Trump with a tire iron to gain any votes...He may also want to shoot a few lobbyist..The man is a dud...He did not open his mouth at the correct times.. he wanted to be politically correct...and not hurt feelings...So he lost...It's really very simple...Chaim stated that he will not vote or support Trump over Clinton...very bad reasoning...He claims Trump is antisemitic and will be the same as Clinton..but he fails to mention clinton's real record on Israel as opposed to trump...

Israel Chai · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2016, 01:59:36 AM »

Quote from: Rashi on February 23, 2016, 01:31:39 AM

At this point Cruz needs to attack Trump with a tire iron to gain any votes...He may also want to shoot a few lobbyist..The man is a dud...He did not open his mouth at the correct times.. he wanted to be politically correct...and not hurt feelings...So he lost...It's really very simple...Chaim stated that he will not vote or support Trump over Clinton...very bad reasoning...He claims Trump is antisemitic and will be the same as Clinton..but he fails to mention clinton's real record on Israel as opposed to trump...

That was pretty incoherent. Cruz is not PC. Trump is antisemitic, and he has a Jew-hating army suporting him. He's not the same as Clinton, his economic plan would cost between 10-22 billion a year, he's Clinton on Israel, Bernie on America. He fails to mention Clinton's real record on Israel? What? He's mentioned it plenty of times. Trump's record is nothing of substance.

Rashi · « **Reply #12 on:** February 23, 2016, 02:30:52 AM »

Quote from: Israel Chai on February 23, 2016, 01:59:36 AM

That was pretty incoherent. Cruz is not PC. Trump is antisemitic, and he has a Jew-hating army suporting him. He's not the same as Clinton, his economic plan would cost between 10-22 billion a year, he's Clinton on Israel, Bernie on America. He fails to mention Clinton's real record on Israel? What? He's mentioned it plenty of times. Trump's record is nothing of substance.

he's Clinton on Israel?..maybe..but the clintons have a 25 year documented record of Jew hatred..also by your reasoning the evangelicals have turned on Israel..which does not surprise me...Chaim always was praising them..big mistake

Rashi · « **Reply #13 on:** February 23, 2016, 02:56:48 AM »

edu · « **Reply #14 on:** February 23, 2016, 08:52:04 AM »

Quote from Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks

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Not sure that this would work. Remember the reaction to Gingrich saying there are no Fakestinians four years ago.

His personal background and his political career convinced many people that he wasn't sincere.

Gingrich also didn't come up with a concrete plan how he would stop the "Fakestinians" and help Biblical Prophecy to be fulfilled.

In any case, these are the issues I would like Cruz to stress. Now he can use some of the big bucks he's collected to run surveys of the people, what could change his popularity.

christians4jews · « **Reply #15 on:** February 23, 2016, 09:36:33 AM »

Cruz is doing fine, sure south carolina wasnt ideal, but he did close in on trump and he in effect tied with rubio whk had EVERY TOP ENDORSEMENT. in the state. Also south carolina is a open state where anyone can vote for anyone.

Facts are only cruz has beaten trump

Cruz beat rubio in liberal new hampshire coming a good third only spending 520 000

No president has ever won without winning kne of the first 3 states

Super tuesday looks even bleaker for rubio

I actually think nevada momentum wise could be great if cruz beats rubio. Its just rubs salt in the wound that he just cant win

Theres still a debate, and still time for candidates to drop out. And still tkme for the trump zombies to wake up.

Chiram · « **Reply #16 on:** February 23, 2016, 06:55:19 PM »

The short term calender looks good for Ted Cruz as half of the States on March 1st Super Tuesday are Southern.

(Evangelicals are 1/4 to 1/3 of the Republican electorate depending on the State)

Zelhar · « **Reply #17 on:** February 23, 2016, 07:12:22 PM »

His strategy is good but there is no path to victory that is completely in his control.

Nachus · « **Reply #18 on:** February 23, 2016, 08:11:55 PM »

No one is suggesting he resort to the usual classless and low tactics of Trump.
However, he can beat him at his own game by being even more aggressive, persistent,
Reaganesque and less Mitt Romney like. After all, he's a real conservative so he can
accentuate the many positive aspects of his platform and justifiably denigrate his opponents' style and be critical of the many potential hazards of a G-d forbid Trump
presidency and how only he can defeat the other party and become the greatest
President the USA has ever had!

Debbie Shafer · « **Reply #19 on:** February 24, 2016, 09:04:37 AM »

These so called evangelicals who are voting for Trump are not putting God ahead of politicians. He is pro-choice, pro-homosexual marriage, partial birth abortion, Planned Parenthood, and for the Single Payer system... Hope everyone doesn't expect him to fulfill his promises.

edu · « **Reply #20 on:** February 25, 2016, 02:20:37 PM »

Some internet articles are making the claim that Trump is popular even with conservative republicans, because regular republicans have lied so often that they will make real change, once they get power and have not done so (see for example, the lack of progress by Congress which is run by republicans) that people associate Trump's willingness to be politically incorrect with having the will to make real change and not just lip service once getting into power at least on some issues.
If this claim is correct, it would seem that one way to win over Trump supporters, would be to also come out with politically incorrect statements to "really prove" it won't be business as usual if a non-Trump politician, such as Cruz would win.
Cruz for example, on the issue of Supreme Court Judges is in trouble because he backed in the past Bush's choice for the Supreme Court, John Roberts who handed Obama some key wins on ObamaCare and other issues.
One thing Cruz can do right now is to pick some ideal Conservative Judge and say if the spot is still vacant I will nominate him for the Supreme Court.
Cruz should also pick someone like Chaim Ben Pesach who is known to be politically incorrect to take a prominent high feature role in his campaign.
Is this too little too late? I don't know. But when you are underdog, you have to think of more risky strategies to change the situation from a loss to a win.

Israel Chai · « **Reply #21 on:** February 26, 2016, 02:14:35 AM »

We saw that in the debate tonight. Make the pro-Ted Cruz message into something a parrot can repeat, take down Trump for being a liberal that most Americans hate, and educate everyone on why they need to be a conservative because it is right and make it look cool while you're at it.

Debbie Shafer · « **Reply #22 on:** February 29, 2016, 06:00:05 PM »

People don't really have the wisdom to pick the right candidates anymore. God pulls away from us and leaves us on our own...they aren't really evangelicals if they are voting for people who support abortion, gay marriage, Planned Parenthood, and Ungodly principles.

Yehudayaakov · « **Reply #23 on:** March 01, 2016, 05:30:57 AM »

Cruz should declare unequivocal he will defend the whites Christians the Jews native Americans and will reinstate privilege for these minorities treated as second class citizens there.