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Italians and Other Mediterranean Racial Groups
Erica:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on September 09, 2007, 04:34:23 AM ---And you've proven us right about blacks not getting married before they have kids. Are you parents still married?
Also, aren't your step-children illegitimate too?
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My parents divorced when I turned 8. It just didn't work out. And another thing, my stepchildren's mothers weren't married to my husband when they were concieved. They're not Illigitimate, they're worth everything. And we have custody of them. Illegitimate children are children who aren't being taken care of by their mother or dad. They are WELL provided for, thanks.
newman:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on September 09, 2007, 05:04:20 AM ---Look up illegitimate in the dictionary.
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il·le·git·i·mate (l-jt-mt)
adj.
1. Against the law; illegal.
2. Born out of wedlock.*******
3. Grammar Not in correct usage.
4. Incorrectly deduced; illogical.
5. Biology Unacceptable as a scientific name because of contradiction to the international rules of nomenclature.
Erica:
--- Quote from: newman on September 09, 2007, 04:42:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: Erica on September 09, 2007, 04:37:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: newman on September 09, 2007, 04:33:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: Erica on September 09, 2007, 04:29:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on September 09, 2007, 04:26:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: Erica on September 09, 2007, 04:07:38 AM --- Are you legitimate?
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Yes.
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Good for you...so am I...sort of. LOL My mom and dad decided to get married 4 months after I was born... My birthday is February 1, 1974... My mom and dad's wedding day was June 20, 1974 *Father's Day*.
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I asked you a personal question and I told you something personal about me. No harm no foul.
Since you want to point out specifics though, you didn't tell me what someone else NOT getting married has to do with you and your personal life. You convieniently left that out of the above quote.
You're making a discussion about a group's behaviour into something personal about YOU as an individual again.
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The personal lives of others are affected by un-married parents because their bastard children grow up to be muggers and criminals.
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Generalizing again...
Erica:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on September 09, 2007, 05:04:20 AM ---Look up illegitimate in the dictionary.
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Newman already posted it. My children, every one of them are well- taken care of. Calling them or other children illegitimate is setting them up for failure. The same thing happens when you call a child 'n' all their lives. They grow up thinking that's their name and therefore act the part. By the way "n" and "b with an itch" is in the dictionary also..should we go around saying it because its printed in a dictionary?
Ehud:
--- Quote from: Erica on September 09, 2007, 05:23:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: newman on September 09, 2007, 04:42:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: Erica on September 09, 2007, 04:37:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: newman on September 09, 2007, 04:33:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: Erica on September 09, 2007, 04:29:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on September 09, 2007, 04:26:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: Erica on September 09, 2007, 04:07:38 AM --- Are you legitimate?
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Yes.
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Good for you...so am I...sort of. LOL My mom and dad decided to get married 4 months after I was born... My birthday is February 1, 1974... My mom and dad's wedding day was June 20, 1974 *Father's Day*.
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I asked you a personal question and I told you something personal about me. No harm no foul.
Since you want to point out specifics though, you didn't tell me what someone else NOT getting married has to do with you and your personal life. You convieniently left that out of the above quote.
You're making a discussion about a group's behaviour into something personal about YOU as an individual again.
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The personal lives of others are affected by un-married parents because their bastard children grow up to be muggers and criminals.
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Generalizing again...
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Of course he's generalizing. He never claimed to be not generalizing. Just use some analysis and realize what his point is. Children of unmarried parents are more likely to be involved in crime than children of married parents, and that affects the lives of other people. There, was that so hard? These are facts.
Also, your changing around of the definition of the word illegitimate isn't going to fly. The word has a clear definition that everyone here, including yourself, knows, so please don't play any games with us.
I find it funny that you argue to us about your own situation and say that you're always an exception to the rule, but your parents weren't married and your husband has illegitimate children from two different women. You seem to fit the stereotypical definition in that regard.
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